Jon,

Sounds like you have it all under control. I apologize if I was spewing out too much information there.

I will watch your build with great admiration as it follows......I may use some of your ideas, if you don't mind.

Cheers,
Chris

No need to apologize, if I post something wrong or build some thing that might not be strong enough, I'd rather some one let me know now, before the car ever gets driven or some thing bad happens. So I really appreciate your advice.

And of coarse, you can use any of my ideas, because at some point I got them from some one else, lol.

Thanks,
Jon

Thank's Jon,Albert car turned out good,and worked well.My son Brandon is wanting a car so maybe will help him with something.I think I will put the Javelin on hold for now.Need to sell the orange camaro first.:thumbsup:

Well yeah, you got to save up for the 9000 rpm supercharged, drysumped, ls engine for the Javelin first, lol. What ever the car is, it will be a awesome build.

Thanks,
Jon

FYI

Example 4130
Tensile Strength, Ultimate 841 MPa 122000 psi
Tensile Strength, Yield 655 MPa 95000 psi

Well, I broke down. I am now an LS engine owner.

I just picked up this LS2 with less than 30k on it, came with a truck intake (not gonna use that), a LS7 cam with springs (stock ls2 cam is still in engine) and I believe ls7 injectors for $1500 off craigslist.
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P1000831.jpg
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P1000830.jpg

Seemed like a good deal, now I got to figure out what to do with it. Get a intake and throw my Dad's old 750 Demon on it or go efi. Hell maybe some ls3 heads.

But first, I got to get a T-56, an oil pan and a quicktime bellhousing. So I can position it in the car to make the engine and transmission mounts.


Now I have to sell all my AMC engine stuff, Who needs a all standard 390?

Thanks,
Jon

Now that's a great motor choice.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks, I am hoping it works out good. At the moment I am think of just putting the ls2 carb intake on it with the msd controller, check the bottom end, arp rod bolts and maybe a small cam shaft, then just stick it in the car.

I want to do a stroker with good heads and a big camshaft, but I will be better off doing that as an upgrade later down the road after I get the car running and the suspension sorted out a bit.

Thanks,
Jon

congrats Jon. that's going to be killer!

Thanks Asif, it is going to really lighten the front end up. What I like is, if some thing breaks, I could go to any parts house to get parts. Plus it doesn't hurt that my Dad works at a chevy dealer.


Hey Asif, do you want or know any body that needs an new internal balance aluminum flywheel for a six cylinder (works with '72 and up v8s)?

Thanks,
Jon

Hi Jon been watching this build been an AMC guy for a long time even worked at American Motors started in 1973 anyway the Javelin is sure to be a head turner whatever engine is in it just about done with my 68 Javelin here is a picture for some inspiration Keep up the great work.... David http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...lin/jav196.jpg

Thanks for the inspiration David, your car looks great. What does it have for running gear?

I haven't been working on the car lately, had to buy a new computer and then the damn transmission went out on my 06 chevy 2500hd, still pisses me off, it only had 80,000 on it.

I am going to be ordering some parts here in a few weeks and get back to work on the car. Hopefully I will be posting some good updates soon.


Thanks,
Jon

Hey Jon ya that would tick me off too!! The Javelin has a 360 4speed little cam and 3:54 posi Really like what you have done so far besides all good thinks take time o yea still have the amc engine from your Jav

I still have the 232 that came out of this car. I had a complete 69 390 out of another car, but all I have left of that is the block, heads, intake manifold and oil pan.


That 360 4 speeds sounds like a great combo, should be fun to drive.

Thanks,
Jon

any updates ...may know some interested in the engine parts ...got my Jav sitting the way I want http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...lin/jav237.jpg

Wow, the car looks great with it lowered like that, great job. I really like the mod pak strip too. What suspension mods have you made?

If you want you can pm me for my info, I also got a amc t-10 with hurst shifter, a couple of stock bellhousings, and the front and rear seats out of my car that I just redid, if you know any one that is interested in that.

Not much to update, planing on redoing some of the rear suspension, I wasn't completely happy with the way it was turning out. Just received the crossmember from Detroit Speed and I should be getting my new lca mounts and billet coil over mounts from Ridetech on Wednesday.

With the Ridetech billet bracket, it mounts the coilover in single shear, which I was trying to get away from, but it uses a 5/8" stud instead of 1/2". Why I decided to get these, is that it offsets the coil over about 1 5/16". This combined with the wider Ridetech lca brackets, I can offset the bottom of the coilover 1-7/8" per side toward the wheel compared to what they would be now.

Also I am changing out the crossmember that is in the car now with one that DSE uses with their quadra-link. This will give me more room for the coil over, maybe possible to run a longer coilover if needed, and I won't have to sheet metal around the roll bar as the crossmember will double as a close out panel.

This takes me a couple of steps back, but I will be happier with the new setup, and it will make life easier later. The more I look around this site, pro-touring.com and others, the more I learn. That's good 'n all, but if I keep changing things I will never get this car done, lol.

I am also trying to figure out if I want to stay with a panhard bar or a watts link. If I did the watts link, I think I would pick up a fays2 universal kit, but I have that thing with single shear stuff(not that single shear is bad). The other thing is that I need to locate my fuel cell as far forward as possible, thus will make it difficult, if not impossible, to change the bellcrank position with the fuel cell in the car.

At the moment I think I will be doing a panhard bar. It's cheaper, possibly lighter, all double shear, no interference with the fuel cell. We will just have to see when I start mocking up things in the car.


Well sorry for the long post and all my ramblings, its been awhile since I have updated this thread with anything worth while and even longer since I have worked on the car. I should be making some progress soon.

Thanks,
Jon

1Badsc,you should start your own thread.You have an amazing AMC.:thumbsup:

Well small update, just to show the project is not dead, lol.

I had a little bit of time here and there this week to work on the car. I had to remove the old rear crossmember that I installed a while ago, but first I needed to add reinforcement so the frame rails didn't move. Got that done, then I torched out the crossmember (got to remember to buy new hoses) and ground the rails smooth.

Today, I started working on the crossmember that I bought from DSE. I measured about 30 different times and to my surprise, it actually dropped in the first time (I don't get that lucky to often.)

I will have to clearance the crossmember to clear the 3rd link bracket and the top of the rear end housing, but it was a good start.

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/49...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/50...600x600Q85.jpg


Just got my lca brackets from Ridetech, they are a very nice piece, made out of 3/16" steel and all the link holes are in the perfect spot that I need. To bad the coilover mounts I ordered from Ridetech didn't work out, they were really nice also. I sent my Hyperco springs back to get different rates and free heights as I originally bought the springs for a set of Afco coilovers, I should be seeing them any day now. I want to thank Kyle Nichter at Ridetech for taking the time to help me out and sending me the lca dimensions so I could make sure they would work for me.
http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/41...600x600Q85.jpg

I also just realized that I have not updated the thread on front down bars. We got this done a few months ago:
http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/51...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/48...600x600Q85.jpg

The down bars tie into a crossbar under the dash that is welded to the hinge/kickpanel area. The crossbar will tie into the the door bar later on.


Next Saturday is the annual socal AMC show at the NHRA museum, so I will be there trying to sell some parts and checking out the cars. Then Sunday, I am leaving to Petaluma, ca for a couple days for work, so no time to work on the car.

Thanks,
Jon

Look's Great Jon.You are going to have part's from just about every good supplier on your car.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks Scott. By the time done, I might not be offended when some calls my car All Makes Combined :_paranoid

Thanks,
Jon

AMC,All Makes Combined.That's Good.:thumbsup: :lol:

Well yet again it has been awhile since I posted or even looked at this thread. I see my pictures disappeared, so I will have to take car of that.

I haven't done much actual work to the car, but still planning, saving and slowly buying parts.

I now have my front and rear brake setup. For the front I scored a set of used (for one testing weekend) Brake Man F4 4 1.875" piston calipers with 1.25" x 13" procast rotors. I think I will send these out and get rebuilt as these look to have been used hard. Even after the calipers get rebuilt and a new set of pads, I will be less than half of what this kit costs new.
Picture comparing the front F4 and rear F3 caliper
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P1010016.jpg

As for the rear, I went to the GMR. I got the Brake Man F3 1.5" 4 piston calipers with compound #82 pads and .810" x 12.19" kit including The GMR's laser cut weld on caliper brackets.
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P1010006.jpg

I also picked up a set of Jake's Rod Shop tubular C6 control arms with Howe racing ball joints and spherical bearings. These look like really nice pieces.
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P1010017.jpg
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/P1010018.jpg
Any one need a new set of stock C6 control arms?

Also, here is a sneek peek at what is happening on the rear of my car:
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/Untitled.png
It's a very basic early stage 3d drawing of the new frame rails and rear suspension. I have changed and added alot of she components so far, I just have to draw it up in 3d still.

Thanks,
Jon

nice javelin.i used to have a 70' javelin sst with a 71'401 and 727 trans.i wish i still had that car.

Thanks, they are cool cars. It's cool to see some of the AMC's getting attention on these boards like Jimi Day's AMX and Ron's full chassis AMX build.

Thanks,
Jon

Nice build! Did it ever get finished?

Scott

Hey Scott,

Unfortunately, the car is a long way to go still. I decided to build a full chassis for it instead of what I had. Plus, I had some problems with the front subframe. The car is on the backburner right now, my parents are remodeling their house so most of my free time is spent there.

I might get the car rolling this summer and I might end up selling it as a project. I am looking at a 04 GTO at the moment so I can go racing some time soon.

How is your car coming along Scott? It's been awhile since I've seen an update.


Thanks,
Jon

Jon -

Not much to update. Found someone who fabbed up some custom upper control arms - stock pickup points, but completely adjustable. PM me if you want his info; he does nice work at a reasonable price. Need to pick up some coil overs for the front -- Freakride has some that will work.

Other than that, it's been languishing in storage for the past 2 years while I was stationed in Korea. Was also spending my $$$$ finishing up a 68 GTO convt -- pump gas 455, TH400, 3.90, Nordic Blue/White/White. I built the engine and trans before I headed to Korea and a buddy of mine did the body and paint. Should hit the high 11's in the quarter if the planets line up just right.

Anyway, I had planned to get back on the Javelin when I got back to the states, but the Army sent us to Italy. We got here (Naples) a few days ago. Figure I'll pick up a 60's vintage Alfa (GTV 1750?) or Fiat (Dino 2.4 coupe?) to wrench on while I'm here. If we end up living off base with a decent garage, I may stuff the Javelin in a storage container to ship it over and finish it.

Shoot me a pm if/when you decide to sell your car.

Scott

I hear that this is making progress with some Ron Sutton magic?

Where's the pics? :y0!:

Hey John,

Sorry I missed your post. Yes, there is some Ron Sutton magic happening over here, I have the front and rear subframes. Making a little bit of progress, but this is not going to happen very fast. I will get some pictures up in a little bit.

Thanks,
Jon

Hi Jon,
I can't wait to see the progress.

John

I am thinking about starting a new thread for this car because this one is pretty messy with all the changes and pictures missing. But for now, I will keep it going.

So about this time last year I decided I was going to try to get my motivation up and start working on the Javelin again. I put the car on back burner a couple years ago because I was just tired of working on it and dealing with all the problems that came up, mainly all the issues I had with the C6 subframe that I had. Also, I just wasn't happy with how it was coming out.

I had decided that I was going to build a full chassis, it was what I wanted to do from the beginning. The body and what was left of the original unibody frame rails was just being held up by jack stands, so I needed better way to level the body and build the new chassis. So, I needed to build a chassis table. This is chassis v2.0, I made an arch out of the first one, lol.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4738/...623dcf05_z.jpgUntitled by Jonathan Feltis, on Flickr

It is made out of 4" I-beam 10' long, 3"x3"x3/16" box tubing for the legs and 2"x3"x1/8" for the crossmembers. The crossmembers are welded to the legs, which are bolted to the I-beams so later I can take it apart and store it. The picture shows the table with 3/4" bolts for adjusters which I later changed out to adjustable swivel feet.

Next, I moved the table to the back, got the car on it and all leveled out. I removed most of what was left of the original frame rails, floor and rockers. After that I started to work on the rockers. I had to cut about 2/3rds of them out and then rebuilt them using 2"x3"x.083" rectangular tubing.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4637/...902c89a1_c.jpg20170725_180548 by Jonathan Feltis, on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4738/...274dda41_c.jpg20170730_180638 by Jonathan Feltis, on Flickr

As for the new chassis components, I decided to go with Ron Sutton. I purchased a welded front TA clip and a welded GT clip with a watts link for the rear. Once they were finished building the clips I made the 820 mile round trip from socal one Saturday to pick them up and to check out his shop. Ron has been really great to work with. Especially with me because I am only buying a few pieces at a time as funds allow it. Plus, this helps me stay busy working on the car instead of waiting to save the money to buy everything at one time.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4693/...a37a1783_c.jpg20171202_103453 by Jonathan Feltis, on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4601/...6b854c6c_c.jpg20171203_132049 by Jonathan Feltis, on Flickr

I got the front and rear clips squared up and clamped down to the table. I think I measured this thing a million times and every which way I could imagine to make sure it was right. Then got the side rails cut to length and welded it together.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4641/...16f42c3e_c.jpg20171224_101103 by Jonathan Feltis, on Flickr

Currently, I am working on the rear crossmember to support the body, I don't have any pictures of that yet.

So that is every thing to date. My goal for this year is to get the chassis finished, mount the engine and transmission, then get the roll cage done.

Thanks,
Jon

awesome work.

Jon, we are all pulling for you! A little progress every day (or weekend) will keep you motivated.

Joel.....

Thanks guys! That's what I keep telling myself, if I do something no matter how small, it is one step closer to finishing this thing. I got a little bit of work on the rear crossmember done last weekend. I am on vacation snowboarding in Mammoth right now, need to get away from work for awhile but as soon as I get back I will take some pictures and put them up here.

Thanks,
Jon

The only way to eat an elephant, little bites.