Curious about the suspension / frame choice. Since you are going with AME components that are customized anyway, why didn't you start with one of their MAX-G Full Frame Chassis? Seems that would add strength to the frame of the car, and you've basically had to do most of the work anyway that it would take regarding the flooring...

Very nice. Looking nasty already!:thumbsup:

The idea is to use stuff that fits orignal cars. Not many will raise the floor, but many may use the front and rear clips. Many may raise the floor, but not use the clips. Were doing this fo educate as well as kick ass.

But agreed, we are getting very close to a full fab floor here.

Looks awesome Frank, I hope I get a ride someday!

I really like the sidewall height on that 345...would that tire be a good fit on a 67/68 like mine?

Jason

PS: I have lights and the starter cranks! Getting close...

Your car is so begging for those tires! A brushed center wheel, those tires! Oh Yeah!

Frank..... I would love to see how this is done! PLEASE post pics!!

I have not updated in a while. So here is where we are now.

We were busy this weekend, moving along pretty well. We got the rear firewall done and 4 link closeout in. We will build block off plates for the rear inner quarters to seal the passenger compartment from the trunk as tight as we can. We want to be sure if we back it into wall we have time to get out!

If you read the Firewall story in Super Chevy, you saw we are moving the seat back 4" which with the driver in the car makes a 1% front to rear weight balance difference which is a lot when your easing down to a 50 / 50 balance. One negative about moving the seat back 4" is a pet peeve John and I share which is a LONG steering column sticking out of a dash. We really want car to recognizable as a Camaro, hence the limited body mods and a stock dash is required, but since we are moving the seat back 4 inches, we would end up with that dreaded Funny Car steering column. So Michael spiced 4 inches into the dash top to move the dash back with the seat. Then IDidIt will make us a column with extra length under the dash, and the column will sit flush against the dash as it should. Michael was tacking in dash when I left today, but you really have to look at it to notice it has been done. I love it. I will get some pics of the dash installed in the car tomorrow.

So now if we can finish the tunnel, it can go to Johns for pre wire and plumb!

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So we made some real progress. I just proofed the sheetmetal story (article 4). The AMD panels went on really well and are easily worth the extra pennies.

After Michael welded up the body we had Bob work on the roof to quarter seems, wheel lips (We beaded the wheel lips) and smooth the drip rails. The drip rails are only roughed in, but for roughed in drip rails they look pretty damn good.

So this weekend I will do some sheetmetal closeout work on the rear suspension, finish the driveshaft tunnel, get it off the jig, install the subframe and throw some rollers on it. And then send it to John for the pre wire and pre plumb. John is excited to get to work on it and I am excited he gets to work on it, LOL!

Enjoy

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After sheetmetal we could not help but mock up the ride height with the drag radials off Michaels Monte Carlo.

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These are 345 / 35 / 18 Drag Radials

Viper and Vette guys are in the 8s on these so I think we will be OK

Forgeline is making us some one off 17 X 4 front skinny's.

It looks sweet Frank!

Looking good Frank!:thumbsup:

any updates?

i know the camaro is down a friend of mine shop. Coast Chassis Desing in south Dayton Fla. getting a cage as of now

Chrome Moly Cage is done, and I have not seen it yet. John is hiding it from me, LOL! Seriously. I have been doing the thrash with multiple cars going to this auction next week and I have not had time to even check it out yet. John spent most of the week with the amazing tube benders at Coast Chassis shooting pics for the magazine article and stealing tricks.

A dozen people have asked why we did not build the cage? Yes, we absolutely could build the cage. But a man has to be one with his pipe bender to get things right the first attempt. Chrome Moly costing what it cost, John and I would have destroyed 5 pipes per pipe. And at the end of the day no matter what we did, it would only be half as good as the guys at coast have done, whom I truly think could do this blindfolded. Add to that the fact these guys know the rule books and know what is REALLY safe and what is fluff, and the decision was simple.

Big thanks to my old friend Ed Nash (jr2226) for introducing us to the great guys at Coast.

This WILL NOT be our last project with Coast. We have quickly developed quite a friendship and appreciation for one another talents.

well a day late and a dollar short [thanks to this gen 2 ]lol. stopped down the chassis shop sat morning to see the cage and it was gone. well i will have to get up your way to see it .

pics?....if they arent too top secret lol

the fastest all around pro touring car on the planet? wait this has already been done hasn't it....red devil?:lol: just kidding guys project looks great looking forward to seeing it come together. keep the updates coming. :thumbsup:

I've re-done the area behind the gas pedal and am working on the next story about seats, steering column, and pedals. Here's a shot from tonight:

Another update
 

Here's the mockup of the steering column. New Borgeson aluminum U-joints and steering shaft will be here soon.

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Where are the updates?

A few things slowed the process. We bought a new facility and moved in April so project took a back seat to the move and regular business. Instead of working on the car weekends and nights I have spent all my weekends and nights working on the new building getting it just the way I want it. Also writing and photographing a story for Super Chevy for every breath you take slows things WAY down. So far 9 stories are printed and 2 more are turned in and ready to publish, with 4 to 6 more stories after that. So when it is finished we will be somewhere between 14 and 17 stories? That will be somewhere close to 100 pages on Project Unfair!

Also made a major change to the engine and had to bring the engine build in house after Pat Musi had a nasty wreck which broke his vertebrate! He is going to be all good but has some recovery time and could not give the engine the personal attention it needed. That actually works out OK for us as our in house engine program is growing rapidly so we should be building the engine anyway. Now instead of 12 pages on our Pat Musi engine it will be 12 pages on the Prodigy Power engine.

A interesting side benefit of the delays is that some of the issues we were facing early on, now solutions have come with time. A big one was the oiling system for the RHS block. Having got one of the first production RHS blocks, there was no dry sump option that did not include a external pump which was causing major packaging and front drive issues. So for a while we had aborted the dry sump. But now we have found a solution and can run a internal dry sump system similar to the factory LS7 stuff which is WAY easier to package. So back to dry sump it is which is a real good thing with all the wet sump engine failures other builders have been facing.

So machine work on the engine is done and we are doing the engine article as we speak. I hope to have dyno numbers in the next couple weeks but have a dozen customer engines in the works right now so our toy will get done when we can.

We we started the project there was no commitment to be done at a specific time or event. None of our sponsor obligations have anything to do with being at any specific event or deadline. All goals and deadlines have been self imposed. With that said, while there is no self imposed deadline for completion, we do kinda want to be testing in the good weather before it gets to hot here in Florida. And while the weather is so nice now (brutal hot summer this year) it makes it a lot easier to get excited about working in the evenings on toys.

In the meantime my Unfair partner John has been using the extra time to dial in his driving skills. John moved up drastically in his HPDE classes and is now soloing and setting some of the fastest laps of the sessions with his ZO6 Corvette. All prepping himself to race this weapon we are building.

WOW that is a lot to say at 3:06 in the morning!!!
bring it here with the weather that we get you will have PLENTY of time to finish it

:thumbsup:

What ever happened to this project?

The project is dead, and Frank and I have reached an amicable divorce. I have no resources or investment in the car any more.

The car and its components still exist and are in Frank's possession. Any information about it at this time needs to come from him.

Sorry to hear that John.

I wonder if Frank got his affairs in order? Was looking forward to see this car done..

what happened to Frank?? Is Prodigy still around??

I could answer that....



WHO CARES!



:lol: :lol:

:lmao:

I think he's working on getting his "UNFAIR" business practice in order :peepwall:

^^^^^ :yes: :yes:

Personally I love Frank.... but you have to separate the person from what happened with the business.



And Al --- you hit the nail on the head!



I'm sure Parson's could tell us all some stories - that are better left untold.

Same here I love the guy. He never screwed me. But I agree Greg!

What happened?
 

I'm not sure you guys wanna rehash this but What happened to Prodigy? most of my parts came from him and never had a issue. referred a few guys and they had nothing but problems.

If I might suggest something... if folks want to have another Prodigy discussion, can we please start another thread?

:thankyou: