Being honest about your feelings is the first step to recovery Dub. :thumbsup:

Good for you Doug! Blake and Speedtech are a real asset to Lat-G and work hard to earn the business, like numerous other Lat-G supporting vendors. Lat-G is a great example of the potential value forums posess for members and supporting vendors. :thumbsup: :lateral:

Vendors - Your support is Appreciated!

Sounds like you got a neat setup with this one!

I have to agree with Ron here, I would be jumping all over this if I could retro fit it to the 9" I just purchased from DSE. I am not in the position to buy a whole new housing, and I doubt mine would sell due to the custom width I ordered it in.
That being said it is a nice piece.

About time you were the guinea pig buddy. :unibrow: You are making some great decisions. :thumbsup:

knowing doug im sure he worked in the "free t-shirts for the whole family or no deal" haha :lol:

Doug E. Fresh.... the man who spends umpteen thousands of dollars on bad ass bulletproof parts to put behind, under and in front of.... his 220 horsepower motor with a flex fan and no tach. :thumbsup:

We all do, Doug..... we all do. :willy:

I pmed blake, about the same thing.

I would buy a kit right now if i could, I dont need or want a new housing, Im not going to spend $4000 plus on a rear end again.

I have all the rear end narrowing stuff, i have done them before.


Not selling this as a kit is going to be the only problem. Other then that, looks killer and a super cool set up.

Oops, yeah--that's right---I forgot to mention that the front subframe came with it also--but I had to pay for the T-shirt----Blake is a tough businessman.

Dude, I told you, I added the 1.6 rockers to the motor---picked up 3 RWHP--the cam has a total lift of 420 now--when you pull the valve covers and the motor is running, you can actually see the rocker move occasionally---wait till you here it now--it doesn't even sound like the same car-It now has to idle at 300 rpm to get rid of the heavy chop and to have some vacume for the brakes. I have to put it in neutral at every stop light now.

Ironworks now makes a "Camshaft Floater" ---i'm going to do that next.--

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I'd give you a hug if you were here.

XXX OOO

LOL---classic Skippy.

No you wouldn't.:lol:

I hear you guys............. and MAYBE I will reconsider after a few are out there and i can get some additional feed back from Speedway. So lets not close that door completly.
I hope you guys can also understanfrom our point as well. that because it is new we really don't need any Negative feedback from someone who tried to do it themselves and had a bad experiance.

You would also have to get custom made housing adaptors made for your narrowing jig in order to even mount the ends, so there is a cost factor there to consider as well.

Blake,
I hear what you are saying, I can respect the fact you want to get a few out there so you can ensure a good product.
Sooo.. that being said is it not as simple as cutting the torino ends off my housing (that is unused with the suspension brackets welded on by DSE, not me) and welding your ends on retaining the width I want? (52.875")
I would be willing to ship the housing to you as well; if that is a possibility?

Going back and reading again I can totally see all your angles. Its hard to cater to everybody's situation.
In my situation like I stated my housing is a brand new DSE unit, unpainted as of yet, and I am only one province over from you as far as shipping goes.

x2:mad:

I've been researching rearend options for a few years now and I've priced multiple options of modifying my 12 Bolt and without major shortcuts buying and complete Ford rear end and selling my basically new 12 bolt appears to be the best cost vs. features vs. performance option.

Please keep in mind: No decent businessman wants to turn away business especially in this economy. If modifying customer housings was cut and dried I'm sure they'd gladly be taking orders.

Set up costs, liability, reputation, market value, and profitablity all factor in to the equation. Basically the system is still in beta mode so give them a little time to sort all the variables out. Delivering genuine customer satisfaction doesn't happen overnight. :thumbsup:

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I Will start with this one.
That is how it appears from the drawings and numbers we have been working with. UNTILL we actually try one and see if it can be done i will not have a solid answer on that. Keep in mind the intent was to sell Complete units as it has never been a "Retrofit" so we need to do more work on that if we are going to go down that road. I will keep everyone posted.

This is well said.
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Dude Really?
 

JSM/badrides, it is apparent that this product is not for you, but your continued bad mouthing of other people's solutions, products and choices have just gotten to be too much.

You continue to wave the GMR flag like we are all idoits for not having the product on our cars. GMR stuff is a nice design, but when it fails and it is going to fail, I would love to be there. All parts fail, it is just a fact.

The part that I am confused about is once you form an opinion, all others are inferior. I am too lazy to go back and cut and paste the post, but you were asking a question about C6Z06 calipers that you wanted to run and asked for opinions. When they did not jive with what you thought, you got defensive citing that GM has done testing and has more resources...blah, blah, blah. Then turn around and say GM does not know what they are doing in bearing pack design is just crazy.

Wear items are never under warranty and to ask Blake about a warranty on the bearings is just ridiculous.

Doug, sorry to hi-jack you post.

Blake, I would have one of these under my car had it been offered when I purchased my Moser floater.

JMS, take comfort in the fact that you have the best floater rear and front hub system in existance and we will all be running second to you in any event you attend.

Wear items are never under warranty and to ask Blake about a warranty on the bearings is just ridiculous.

Funny you should say that. Just today I have Confirmed that in fact there WILL be a 12 month or 12,000 mile Warranty on the Wheel Hub, Excluding any damage from Contact. IE Crashing into ANYTHING!!
"I" Cant find any other manufacturers that state that they cover their Bearings.

Blake, I would have one of these under my car had it been offered when I purchased my Moser floater.

Well we will have to save one for your NEXT project won't we. :_paranoid

here is something you guys might find interesting. :)

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...Tooling-System




killer69 - setup looks good man! I personally think its a good idea, keep on pushing the pro-touring industry forward! Even I can appreciate that!

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Placed an order for the Chicane SpeedTech floater today!

I'm lookin forward to using in OLC2!

Nice! :thumbsup:

I don't feel JSM's questions are unreasonable. There is nothing wrong with asking questions about a product with 0 miles.

I dont see why all the fuss about JSM's questions...

You should have see / heard all the questions I received about the GMR products about a year ago from him... :D

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Originally Posted by killer69

Funny you should say that. Just today I have Confirmed that in fact there WILL be a 12 month or 12,000 mile Warranty on the Wheel Hub, Excluding any damage from Contact. IE Crashing into ANYTHING!!

That is great that you ARE offering a warranty, I will see if it is in my Dad's budget still since yearly or so replacement is being implied and may be needed.

I am glad to see you are considering this as an option, we are obviously moving in a positive direction.:cheers: I don't think I am implying that a yearly replacement may be needed, I am simply offering a warranty, it is not a life time warranty but it is a warranty and after reading some other sites I think it is actually pretty good coverage. for a part that will get used at "race type events" and probably even RACED
I spent some time on the phone today and am having a follow up conversation tomorrow with a top driving school at a very well known track that uses Grand Sport, Z06 and ZR1 Corvetts in the school. they actually had a very different out look on the Corvette hubs qoute" we have seen very few failures since 2008 even in the GS models. this is a track with mostly right had turns and one would expect the left rear to be the big problem." they have not had an issue with any of the ZR1 cars to date.

"I" Cant find any other manufacturers that state that they cover their Bearings. Actually you had asked about "race parts" being warrantied...you know, like these SKF "race hubs". But if we are now in agreeance that race parts DO have warranties, I guess I will answer your new question pertaining to the bearing. You are probably right.....on just bearings, but as you just stated above...this is a "wheel hub" and not just bearings we are talking about. So to clarify.... is this "warranty" ONLY covering the hub body itself, and the actual ball bearings & splines have none?

"the internet" Pfadt, SKF and others call them a Race Hub, they are the OEM hub used on the ZR1 Call it what you will. The UNIT is one piece the bearings are really the only wear part of the unit but as a UNIT there will be a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty. If the housing melts??? it will be covered, if the bearings become loose it is covered, if it is bent and you are ordering a new wheel??? I will probably ask that you send your rear end housing in to have it checked for straightness and straightened and then guess what. NO warranty.

Alright, alright, I will ask a easy question as to not make Payton mad.....What color housings do you offer? Does the kit come with a sticker? JK...lighten up everybody! The housings will be a very nice steel grey :lol:
You asked about the hub housing material... it is actually Forged, I am trying to get the actual alloy number. Not sure if it will be possible but I am working on it for you.

so the hubs your using are the same one Phadt sells correct?

To the best of my knowledge.
The one they show on their site is EXACTLY the same as the ZR1 hub even tho they are calling it the Phadt/skf race hub ????

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Interesting, Not the same inital information I received from SKF on the hub. I will continue to follow up.

Hopefully if it is acceptable for GM and Pfadt it will be acceptable for the rest of us.

I measured the axle flange end play at ~ 0.011" on my 8.5" 10 bolt with Moser 31spline axles and Detroit TruTrac.. then I removed the posi's "center spacer" that prevents the axles from traveling inwards and allowing the c-clips from popping out. Measured this spacer's width and made a new, wider one, that brought the axle flange end play down to ~0.001". Figured it would be good to allow some running clearance for heat expansion and to avoid bearing preload. I have yet to drive it but I have 7/8" manual master and 4piston fixed Dynalites in the back, hoping to test out within the next couple weeks. Not sure if this is helpful for you Torino-bearing'd guys but simply an idea.