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FETorino 01-12-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 457581)
ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 457613)
Apparently an FE can be. :_paranoid

Geeze at this rate maybe I'll build one of these while I'm waiting:lol:

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/100_0644.jpg

intocarss 01-12-2013 11:28 PM

WHOA

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/100_0644.jpg

Sieg 01-13-2013 06:44 AM

Dave - Are you still looking for antique furniture?
https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...&postcount=382

:D

fleet 01-13-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 457703)
Geeze at this rate maybe I'll build one of these while I'm waiting:lol:

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/100_0644.jpg

It's never a good idea to tease people with a Cammer. :mad:



:lol:

FETorino 01-13-2013 07:31 AM

^^^ Army of one ^^^

:cheers:

fleet 01-13-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 457741)
^^^ Army of one ^^^

:cheers:

:thumbsup:

Like most FE guys, a Cammer's on my to do list too.:cool:³

GregWeld 01-13-2013 08:49 AM

What I saw was a big ol' pile of money just waiting to catch fire....




:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Vegas69 01-13-2013 01:50 PM

I'm starting to think this isn't a fair fight. You know, with technology changing so drastically from year to year. Maybe a handicap system for every month that goes by between dyno runs. :lol:

GregWeld 01-13-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 457813)
I'm starting to think this isn't a fair fight. You know, with technology changing so drastically from year to year. Maybe a handicap system for every month that goes by between dyno runs. :lol:




"technology" ---- where'd you see that in either of these dyno sores??


I had to go back and re-read the entire thread to see if I missed something! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

FETorino 01-13-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 457813)
I'm starting to think this isn't a fair fight. You know, with technology changing so drastically from year to year. Maybe a handicap system for every month that goes by between dyno runs. :lol:

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 457880)
"technology" ---- where'd you see that in either of these dyno sores??


I had to go back and re-read the entire thread to see if I missed something! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

My NASCAR motors heads were designed in 1966. The intake was from 71 but it was a 69 design. I don't think anyone has mass produced a new design intake since then. I believe DGs SB2s debut was in 89? I think he already had the "technology" jump on me.:rofl:

He only needs to make 702hp to make 11 of you happy. I think my TP will prove 12 of you right with better avg numbers because that is what it was built to do, be drivable.:cool: I am building a PT car.

DG should I post my dyno graphs again? You have to all the way back to Nov posts to find them. I wouldn't want to add the extra work to you since it seems you are having a hard time getting things done.:rofl:

badmatt 01-13-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 457901)
My NASCAR motors heads were designed in 1966. The intake was from 71 but it was a 69 design. I don't think anyone has mass produced a new design intake since then. I believe DGs SB2s debut was in 89? I think he already had the "technology" jump on me.:rofl:

He only needs to make 702hp to make 11 of you happy. I think my TP will prove 12 of you right with better avg numbers because that is what it was built to do, be drivable.:cool: I am building a PT car.

DG should I post my dyno graphs again? You have to all the way back to Nov posts to find them. I wouldn't want to add the extra work to you since it seems you are having a hard time getting things done.:rofl:

SB2 was developed in 98 but who's counting :)

Im starting to like these funky FE's

GregWeld 01-18-2013 06:30 AM

I was finally able to get a SPY SHOT of DG's SB2 in skunkworks development! I think the poor old FE motor might be in a run for the money!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...os/file-14.jpg

fleet 01-18-2013 07:07 AM

:wow:

No mas!


FETorino 01-27-2013 11:14 AM

DGs main caps just came in

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps8c384b47.jpg

Ron in SoCal 01-27-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 460601)
DGs main caps just came in

Don't you have a roadtrip story to finish?? :getout:

Flash68 01-27-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 460601)

:lol:

I wouldn't doubt that!

:bang:

intocarss 01-28-2013 02:55 PM


FETorino 01-28-2013 08:04 PM

I'm not sure what I like more the fact that that SB2 won't idle or the fact something lets loose at the end of the run and the whole room gets smoked out. That's all Bowtie there:lmao:

Now in NASCAR when you crash your primary car you go to the back of the pack with your backup.

I think Chris will step in for DG to defend the Bowtie honor with his build. At least it should run someday.:D


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Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 459920)
Shortblock part numbers, specs, and labor for those who like details:

GM ZL1 Block - new version of block from GM, 12370850
Pistons - 4.280 bore - SRP Forged, 26cc dome, 212142-8
Callies Compstar Crank - 4.250 stroke, internal balance, 2-piece seal, 2.2" rod journ, BBP425-CS
Callies H-beam Rods - 6.385 inch length, H-beam, ARP 2000 fasteners included, CSB6385ES3B9AH
Piston Rings - JE, Plasma-moly, 4.280 in. Bore, 1/16 in. 1/16 in., 3/16 in, S100S8-42805
Cam - Gen VI step-nose custom grind, billet steel core with cast gear, Comp Cams custom
Timing Chain Set - Comp Cams double roller, billet, key adjustable, Gen VI, 7101
Cam retention plate and screws - for Gen VI cam in Gen IV block (2) 14093637, 10168501
Timing Chain cover - Milodon 1-piece aluminum, Gen IV, 14855
Timing Chain cover seal and gaskets - Mr. Gasket, MRG-17, MRG-4794G
Harmonic Balancer/Dampener - ATI (internal balance), 917060
Harmonic Balance Bolt - ARP, 135-2501
Road Racing Oil Pan - Milodon 31555
Dipstick - Milodon flex stainless, 22010, Streetside
Oil pump pickup - Milodon, 18465
Oil Pump - Melling High Volume M77HV
Oil Pump shaft - ARP, 135-7901
Oil Pan gasket - Mr. Gasket one piece MRG-6663G
Cam bearings: Dart coated
Valley screen kit: Pettis BBC-multi
Oil filter pad plug material: aluminum
Oil filter adapter: GMPP
Windage tray: Milodon
Windage tray mount spacer material / bolts
Oil pump stud: ARP
Rear main seal: Fel-Pro viton
Timing pointer: ATI billet

Specs, compression ratio:
Bore 4.28
Stroke 4.25
Rod Length 6.385
Pistom Dome CC -26
Head CC 119
Estimated Compression Ratio 10.44

Labor (Incomplele list. Some things will be added on as we go.)
ROTATING ASSEMBLY
hone pin bores: pistons <size adjust>
hone pin bores: rods <size adjust>
balance rotating assembly: internal
detail piston domes

BLOCK
align hone mains w/studs <size adjust>
surface / index / set deck heights
bore & chamfer cylinders
radius cylinder bottoms
performance finish hone cylinders w/plate & mains
machine / install valley screen kit: bolt in multi type
machine block for rot assy: first setup & cut
machine cooling system holes in decks
detail casting
measure lifter bores, hone

ASSEMBLY
install / fit standard slider cam bearings
machine timing cover for pointer fit
fab oil filter pad plugs & install
machine for countersink bolt in oil pump
fab windage tray mount spacers
hone damper hub
blueprint / assemble: performance short block


Flash68 01-28-2013 08:13 PM

Smoke? What smoke? Look again Junior. :peepwall:

Looks pretty stout to me Jer. Thanks for posting. :thumbsup:

And Chris might have his together before mine indeed.... my pile on the cart at the machine shop is not as big as the pile on his living room floor. :lol:

FETorino 01-28-2013 08:18 PM

Jerry you got me. :action-smiley-027:

I bet DG wishes swapping motors was that easy.:lmao:

Don't make me do it Flash

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...pseef19a54.jpg

chr2002ca 01-28-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 460961)
And Chris might have his together before mine indeed.... my pile on the cart at the machine shop is not as big as the pile on his living room floor. :lol:

My pile is now on the cart at Pettis also, so we're tied. :) My caps might be straighter though. Maybe I'm in the lead. :poke: Hopefully it's back to me by end of February as Jason mentioned. It's just a short block assembly and all the parts are there so hopefully no surprises. Then another month or so to have it in the car and running. I plan to take a week off from work in March to make some decent progress on it. Got a lot of sh_t to hook up and measure with the new EFI system and new manual transmission setup. Once it's running and drivable, we'll strap to a chassis dyno and do some fine tuning and generate some numbers. Then we can argue on the conversion numbers to match up with your engine dyno numbers.

So how the hell did I get drafted into this dyno thread? That's messed up. :lol:

chr2002ca 01-28-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 460957)
I think Chris will step in for DG to defend the Bowtie honor with his build. At least it should run someday.:D

Nope, you 2 should continue to duke it out. The ribbing is priceless.

FETorino 01-28-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 460957)
I think Chris will step in for DG to defend the Bowtie honor with his build. At least it should run someday.:D

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Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 460968)
Nope, you 2 should continue to duke it out. The ribbing is priceless.


Well I guess that says it all..... :lmao: it is a Chevy .

Maybe you and DG can add your #s together:idea:

:popcorn2:

Sieg 01-28-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 460967)
So how the hell did I get drafted into this dyno thread? That's messed up. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 460968)
Nope, you 2 should continue to duke it out. The ribbing is priceless.

Actually I'd like to make a motion that adds you to the competition.

I'm kinda liking the 3-some Ford sandwich theme. :D

There's a motion on the floor, do we have a 2nd? :popcorn2:

intocarss 01-28-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 460961)
Smoke? What smoke? Look again Junior. :peepwall:





I think it was just wishful thinking on Robs part And it was idling just fine :smiley_smack:

FETorino 01-28-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 460984)
I think it was just wishful thinking on Robs part And it was idling just fine :smiley_smack:

Jer is that the story you're sticking to? :warning:


intocarss 01-28-2013 09:36 PM

YUP :thumbsup:

chr2002ca 01-29-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 460973)
Well I guess that says it all..... :lmao: it is a Chevy .

Maybe you and DG can add your #s together:idea:

:popcorn2:

:lol: Mines a street motor built to deal with our crappy CA gas and be fairly maintenance free and run cool. You guys are running higher compression, solid roller cams, electric water pumps, etc. I don't fit in this comparison. I thought about 700HP, but that extra HP wasn't going to do me a darn bit of good with 275 street tires on the back, so I dialed back my build a little bit to make it a little more street friendly and something I'd probably enjoy a little more.

I know you're disappointed because you're standing in the ring with your gloves on and the other guy hasn't come out of the locker room yet, but he'll show up eventually. :thumbsup:

FETorino 01-29-2013 08:04 PM

Got it. Todd proved those were only good for mid 600s if you wanted them to stay together.:guns:

:popcorn2:

Sieg 01-29-2013 08:20 PM



:popcorn2:





:peepwall:

FETorino 01-29-2013 08:27 PM

Did you do the tune on that one Scott? :relax:

:popcorn2:

Flash68 01-29-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461182)
Got it. Todd proved those were only good for mid 600s if you wanted them to stay together.:guns:

:popcorn2:

Well he did have $10 heads on a $5000 block. Heads make power, not a block.

:peepwall:

Sieg 01-29-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461187)
Did you do the tune on that one Scott? :relax:

:popcorn2:

:thankyou: for asking, no, didn't do this one either..........



.......and I'm real glad I wasn't the cameraman.

:peepwall:

chr2002ca 01-29-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461182)
Got it. Todd proved those were only good for mid 600s if you wanted them to stay together.:guns:

:popcorn2:

Some people need 700HP, some don't. Check the URL. This is Lat-g, not Dynos Today. I'll see you on the track in my street car. :guns: Then we're drinking some beers and loser is buying.:cheers: Dave, don't bring that sidekick of yours to the beer drinking part unless he brings his own keg.:lol:

FETorino 01-29-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 461191)
:thankyou: for asking, no, didn't do this one either..........



.......and I'm real glad I wasn't the cameraman.

:peepwall:

:headscratch: Huh :headscratch: They both look like your work :headscratch: :lmao:

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Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 461193)
Some people need 700HP, some don't. Check the URL. This is Lat-g, not Dynos Today. I'll see you on the track in my street car. :guns: Then we're drinking some beers and loser is buying.:cheers: Dave, don't bring that sidekick of yours to the beer drinking part unless he brings his own keg.:lol:

Everyone has enough hp, till they realize they want more :D

650 and streetable was my target.:mock:

I am doing a couple mods to try and make mine corner. :rolleyes:

Dave you can bring that sidekick I still owe him a couple beers from OUSCI :thumbsup:

Sieg 01-29-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461195)
:headscratch: Huh :headscratch: They both look like your work :headscratch: :lmao:

:D

Bu-bu-but I don't work on Fords, their engineering combined with my infamous abilities = epic fail. :sieg:

FETorino 01-29-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 461199)
:D

Bu-bu-but I don't work on Fords, their engineering combined with my infamous abilities = epic fail. :sieg:

:D Once you learn a little more we'll let you work on stuff that's worth something :lmao:

:popcorn2:

intocarss 01-29-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 461191)
:thankyou: for asking, no, didn't do this one either..........



.......and I'm real glad I wasn't the cameraman.

:peepwall:

Flywheel let go on that one

Flash68 01-29-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chr2002ca (Post 461193)
Some people need 700HP, some don't. Check the URL. This is Lat-g, not Dynos Today. I'll see you on the track in my street car. :guns: Then we're drinking some beers and loser is buying.:cheers: Dave, don't bring that sidekick of yours to the beer drinking part unless he brings his own keg.:lol:

:lol: Rob is a little fixated on the big dyno numbers isn't he. :poke:

I am gonna steal a quote from Rob @ NoLimit here:

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Originally Posted by RobNoLimit (Post 966686)
I've heard all of the crying about - race car - purpose built - exotic - bla bla bla. Give it up. First of all, all hot rods are purpose built, for what ever purpose the builder/owner wanted.

:thumbsup: :guns:


Rich Bermea + Beer = No more Beer.

Sieg 01-29-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461200)
:D Once you learn a little more we'll let you work on stuff that's worth something :lmao:

:popcorn2:

Please don't tell me you've still got that chick-magnet Pinto wagon you drove in high school. :sieg:


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