Did I miss a memo on changing user names or something?

gmtech, is that you?

LOL!! Yes it is me. I have been away from GM dealers for a while, I figured I should change the name. After 20 years I am out of the wild world of dealerships hopefully for good.Still working on vehicles but for a different organization.

Well, I haven't gotten anything done on the quarter panel, still not getting time to work on it. However, I did manages to pick up something I never thought I would have. ChevelleNV had a change of direction so he needed someone to take this off his hands.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...psxzwvp41y.jpg

It will be a while before I am too that point, but at least it's in the garage.

Nice tank Bill. What pump is that?

Scott, it is a Gen V Camaro pump that Rick's installs. Nothing special I guess, but it will cover my LQ9. I can always increase on the pump later.

Well, I have made a little headway on the quarter. It is fitting I think the best it can. So there are still a couple of issues. Of course, on the trunk, the gap really doesn't look too good.
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Compared to the original one on the drivers side.
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So here is the next issue. How to get this to lay down. Do I just cut and make it lay down and weld it back?
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Should I cut along the horizontal section to help it lay down and then weld the gaps up?
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hows this build coming along?

Sorry, missed this post.

SSSLLOOWW. Too slow. I wish I had more time in the garage, but work is kicking my tail. I'm almost to the point that I may be able to actually weld in the quarter really soon. Trying to catch up on some odds and ends for maintenance things around the house and all. Just life in general.

thanks for checking on it though.

Don't give up Bill. A couple of productive days in the garage, and you'll be back on track! :superhack:

i completely understand. im still at the beginning stages of my build and i took 2 years off. keep up your dream

Guys, I am not giving up. I can't. The big lump of metal in the garage is in the way of everything. HAHA

I hope in the next couple of weeks to have some sort of update. Thanks for checking on this though.

Good to hear

Well, I just looked at my thread because I actually have a day to work on it. I have a quick question if I can get an answer. Also, not sure what has happened to all the pictures. I'll get that straight later.

Here's the question. Working on the quarter, and ready to put it on the final time. What do I need to do with this surface rust?

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Totally up to you bill .
Use a rust converter
Wire wheel and prime
Sand and paint ...
Nothing
I took my quarters off and had the car sprayed with primer so I didn't have to worry about it but , I also had that issue.

Ok, so a long day repairing some areas in the trunk and some inner sheet metal. So the inner fender is ready to be welded on. All clamped up and a few screws holding it in.

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I've often wondered the same thing. You see the pro shops pulling roof skins off and the inner sheet metal has signifiicant surface (or worse rust). This is usually after the body has been media blasted and is sitting in their nice fabrication area. So I have always doubted that they go back in there and spot media blast it. The other thing that always had me wondering is they will often go to great lengths to show you all the nice patch panels they make and all the places they cut out any indication of rust in the cowls and rockers and glass frames, yet they never seem to address the inner stuff. From what I've been able to gather they seem to just wire wheel it and epoxy it and figure that inner rust won't progress far even in another 20 years and even so it won't bubble up and ruin the paint anyway.

So i'm no expert, but these days what I would do with that is just a quick wire wheel, and then rust convertor followed by POR-15. Accorind to the instructions you don't even need to use a rust convertor although I probably would since its a pretty simple step. Not all the reviews on POR-15 are glowing, but I"ve been using it quite a bit lately and have had really good success with it. I work in a carport and cosmetics and paint have never been my thing, so I often lose patience with prep or have to spary paint in the cold, but the POR-15 has been sticking and protecting everything much better than any spray can. I do have a gun and compressor, but its such a pain in the butt to mix up paint and clean the gun and throw away what I don't use I don't use it too much. Another nice thing about POR-15 is you can brush it on pretty quickly, no need to tape off much because there is no overspray and really easy to see how the coat is doing. Just don't drip it on anything pretty, its very difficult to get off including skin.

Preston, thanks for the input. Yes, i have always wondered the same. How the shop stays so clean, and the work is always perfect. Crap, I probably blew 20 holes in the tunk floor yesterday trying to weld up a cut that I had made.

Just when you think you have it finished, the hole comes back.

Well, I had two days of solid work, takes me too long to do anything due to the second guess nature I have.

Today is spent cleaning the house for the wife because she is dealing with the bus accident we had here in Chattanooga. Her plans were to be off today to get ready for thanksgiving, but that isnt happening.

Say a little prayer for all who are involved in this. Really a bad time.


Also, wanted to add another angle shot to the wheel well.

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Looks good Bill, keep plugging away

To your earlier question - - -I blasted the inner structure of my car and sprayed it with epoxy primer. The exception to that was the inner roof structure. I wire brushed and wire wheeled it and brush on a POR 15 like products -- I forget the name right now. I wanted to have everything coated with something, even though it will never sit out in the elements again........

If you clean it up with scotch bright as best you can, a good epoxy primer will stick and protect it pretty well.

Bill, good to see some progress!
I'd consider the epoxy primer/sealer for the inner areas, as suggested.
I was in Gatlinburg when the bus accident happened. No words to describe how tragic this is. Hope your doing well. Happy Thanksgiving brother.

Thanks Scott. We had just come back from Gatlinburg on Sunday before it happened. Spent the weekend with family up there.

I hope to get some more time this weekend and maybe get the quarter completed. That is a hope.

Ok, So I think I am ready to weld in the quarter. Any last minute advise? Is there anything I need to do before the final fit and weld?

My fist thought is to sand, or clean all the areas that will be getting welded. Another thought I had was to figure out where all the wheel well molding screws go so that I don't have to drill through a weld when those get installed.

I have weld through primer, so most areas can be primed before welding. Just throwing all this out there to make sure I get it right. I DO NOT want to remove for any reason.

Bill, glad to see progress again!! I just caught up on this. I would make sure all the areas that are getting a weld have clean metal, use a weld thru primer, I used a "rust converter" on the inner structure of the 69 just a preventative. If you consider how old these cars are and what little protection they had, it is minimal on the inside. I think any primer, converter etc. you use will help the car outlive many of us. also after the paint is done, cured. you can use a product like "3m rust fighter I" in the rockers, inner quarters etc. The trim screws are a pain, you can fit now if that is what you want. I never worried about it until after.of the 69

Inner rust treatments
 

Just finished reading your thread. I had the same issues and concerns with the inner sheetmetal on my Fairlane. I went to a auto paint supply store and talked with them. The turned me on to a rust treatment system that can be shot through a flexible tube about 21" long. Since I didnt have to do the 1/4 panels at the size you do I needed to get up where you "anti flex" foam is on your car. The system worked very well. There were plenty of little tight areas that could be treated. I just slid the tube in and didnt worry about runs since it is underneath everything. Great build BTW.

Chris, thanks for the input. I'm trying to spray everything with the primer before I weld. Taking off the E Coat that is applied to the panels that are new.
Getting time in the garage has been a blessing. It has been the cleanup of the garage that has Taken much of the time this week.
I'm on it though. My goal is to have the quarter welded in by Monday afternoon

So just when I think I'm ready, I see something that needs to be done.
Needed to set up the trunk hinge brace when I cut it out.

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So got the trunk hinge brace welded back together and in.

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Filled in a gap between the trunk pan and the inner fender

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Got the last fitup of the quarter.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...psdz6gpteg.jpg

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Removed it the last time and punched all the spot weld hole and clamped it back on. So that is where I stand at this point. Was hoping to finish it up, but fell and broke my arm last weekend so out for 4-5 weeks after surgery tomorrow.
So close, but just so far.

Bill the car is coming together nicely!
Broke your arm? What? Hope the surgery goes well. Don't give up on the car! It's just a setback...

Scott, no giving up yet. Just frustrated I got so far, and had to stop.

Yea, slipped on some ice here when we had a little dusting last weekend, and didn't stick the landing. Broke my left radius and go in the morning for some extra metal to hold it together.

One of my friends said I should just go bionic, but I couldn't find a new hand that had a welding lead in one of the fingers.

Good job Bill. Everything's looking good. Keep up the good work. Bill...you, Scott and I...we are the 3 amigo's. Us Chevelle guys gotta stick together in our threads. LOL!! We're all chipping away on our Chevelle's slowly but surely. Mine may be the slowest, but we're all getting there. I have to weld my trunk braces back together as well from where I put in wider rear wheel tubs too.

Well guys, so surgery went well, and I am on the mend. Still can't move my hand at the wrist full movement, but I can enough to get in the garage and do some work. The quarter panel is four spots from being officially welded in. I just need an extra hand on the last four. Here are pictures. Keep in mind, all these need to be buffed down.

First Tack.
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http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...psfcy5tcyg.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...psn7cvmdvr.jpg

Still need to work a little more on this section.
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Now, guys, I need more guidance. How would you handle this trunk gap?
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...psk1farump.jpg
You can see that the gap goes from 6mm to 8mm and then down to 4.5mm. I have thought af adding to the edge of the trunk, but that would just cause a bow in the edge there. Would you cut the area at the widest part of the gap then split it and weld back?

If so, I need to see some videos of metal finishing. I'm lacking in that area for sure.

Also, here where the wheel well meets the trunk floor and back seat floor pan, do you weld that solid, or fill the gap with seal sealer?
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Thanks guys for all the help. I couldn't do this without all your knowledge and guidance.

Bill, I think you better chill and let than hand heal or you'll be needing a helping hand permanently. I work in an orthopedic hospital part time and our biggest return patients are those who don't listen to the doctor and do too much. Those are the one's who think they know better than the doctor that went to school for a billion years and knows his craft. LOL!!

Marcus, I do understand. I did overdo it on Saturday. The Doc did say use it. No therapy other than just keep moving it. My son said he could make it move all the way, I told him if he wants to live to see his next birthday, then he will keep his hands off me.

I did stop Saturday when it was starting to hurt. Believe me, it lets me know when it has had enough.

It was just good to be able to get back out there and work on it some.

I totally understand Bill. The micd needed a little satisfactory therapy as well just knowing you got out there a did a little bit. Get well and don't overdue it. I just bet your son could make it move all the way. Kids are invincible...at least, so they think. Hahahahah!!

Well, It has been 6 years since I updated this thread. Much has changed in the life here for my family and I.

So, since 2017, I broke my tibia plateau on a dirt bike, got better after that, and life in general took over.

The Chevelle, took the seat way in the back. Kids were growing up, engaged in sports and school, and just taking precedent for life with the wife and I. Fast forward to April 2020. Amazed at what a tornado will do to a house. we were hit and the house was totaled. Moved into a extended stay hotel for a month, and then to a rental house. The Chevelle stayed in the detached garage during that process.

Before that, the young man in the pictures grew up and talked me into getting him a K20 Chevy truck. Along with that, I got the fever and helped him along the process with a LS swap, new gears, wiring, dash, transmission, and everything else that was wrong with it. So you know that took over the garage and the Chevelle progress stopped.

We ended up tearing down the house and selling the property, and having a new place built. What a process. So much to decide on.

I had a friend that had space for all my tools and the Chevelle. Had to store it for a while so that we could get the new place built and moved into. amazed at even building new, there is still so much to do.

At this point, the boy has been in the Army for two years. He is stationed in Ft. Lewis McCord in Washington State.

My daughter just got married. That took funds away from the Chevelle, go figure, and I got a new job position within Komatsu.

At this point, life is pretty good. Except, the Chevelle hasn't progressed at that point.

So that is life, now on to what has happened in the last month.

With the help of my brother in law, he encouraged to go get the car and get it to the garage. I had completed some updates on my HEEP and moved it to the center bay. The end bay is cleared and ready for the Chevelle.

So away I go.

Here are the pictures of getting it out of storage and getting it home.

Rolled it into the new garage

I have a young one and another coming soon. They're a part of the reason I decided to sell the TA a couple years ago. I knew I wouldn't have time to continue working on a project. Glad to see you're back at it with the car. I wish you the best in making progress.

So while the son was home on leave after his deployment for his sisters wedding, he had talked me into working on the Chevelle engine since I had a new cam and parts to install it. Also purchased the Holley front drive system, so we checked out this part of it also. We both enjoyed the time in the garage again, and it was good for both of us.

Ended up seeing the cam bearing was a little worn. I had initially thought I was just going to cam swap and run it, but now I am too far into it to not go further. The new job enables me to use the distributor machine shop that I support, so we loaded it in the company truck Sunday and hauled it down there to have it cleaned and checked out for wear.

Based on their findings, going back with rebuild kit with all STD components. That will get ordered next week.

Here are some pictures the day we moved it out of the old garage.

That was a rough day.