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chichirone 04-23-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricochet (Post 547265)
Great job! You guys nailed it!

Thanks Brent!

Sieg 04-23-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 547284)
And yes, we will be driving the sh$t out of it. :military:

Perfect - Enjoy it! :thumbsup:

carbuff 04-24-2014 12:08 PM

I love TOW, I really do. But there's something about that splitter and stance that looks really awesome! I'd love to see some shots of the bottom to get a feel for the clearance you have. I don't remember, but were the rear floors raised to better fit the mufflers? Those are my low spot now, but thankfully I haven't scraped those yet!

Can't wait to get these two side by side... :)

chichirone 04-25-2014 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 547303)
Perfect - Enjoy it! :thumbsup:

Thanks Sieg!

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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 547400)
I love TOW, I really do. But there's something about that splitter and stance that looks really awesome! I'd love to see some shots of the bottom to get a feel for the clearance you have. I don't remember, but were the rear floors raised to better fit the mufflers? Those are my low spot now, but thankfully I haven't scraped those yet!

Can't wait to get these two side by side... :)

Thanks man! It sits very low but love that stance is right! No mods were made to the rear floors. It was mini-tubbed but no other modifications. I will take some pics for when we get the car back to TX.

Getting TOW and KLRBRD together side by side will be awesome!

chichirone 05-01-2014 08:42 PM

USCA TMS Pics
 
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I received some great photos of my car taken by Ken Jarvis from JetHot while at the USCA event at TMS in March. Thanks for sharing Ken!!! Hope to see you at Gateway in July.
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chichirone 05-01-2014 08:46 PM

More USCA TX Pics
 
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Ron in SoCal 05-01-2014 09:02 PM

Great pics Jay! Glad to see you enjoying the car. :thumbsup: back at ya

fleet 05-02-2014 07:52 AM

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Wow, that is one lean, mean and very clean Camaro Jay.

WSSix 05-02-2014 02:54 PM

Nice action shots!

chichirone 05-05-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 548566)
Great pics Jay! Glad to see you enjoying the car. :thumbsup: back at ya

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Originally Posted by cosmo meant it (Post 548631)
Wow, that is one lean, mean and very clean Camaro Jay.

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 548716)
Nice action shots!

Thanks guys. :thankyou:

It's been a work in progress for a little over 5 years. Hind sight being 20/20, I should have done the LS swap and Ridetech suspension a long time ago. Heck, I probably could have had a third PT car or auto-x truck (really wanted the No Limits 55 F100 that was for sale last summer but wifey said "NO") and a garage built for them all with all the money spent on iterations of this car! HA! Now as Ron says, I need to enjoy it. Oh and by the way, work on the driver! More seat time. More learning and more events.

chichirone 05-05-2014 01:04 PM

Trans Am KLRBRD Update...Headed to Texas!
 
KLRBRD was picked up Saturday and is on its way to Texas. Here is a short video of it going onto the truck from West Bend Dyno's Facebook page. Love the note of that exhaust.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

We are supposed to see it Wednesday morning!! Best smiley I could find to describe how fired up my wife is to be getting the car. :ups:

tmadden 05-17-2014 02:34 PM

meet up
 
We gotta get together now we both are rolling. Although i have had a temp set back. Should be ready in a week.

fleet 06-11-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 549059)
KLRBRD was picked up Saturday and is on its way to Texas. Here is a short video of it going onto the truck from West Bend Dyno's Facebook page. Love the note of that exhaust.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

Jay,

Anything new with the 'Bird?

Very healthy sounding exhaust btw. :thumbsup:

chichirone 06-23-2014 07:49 AM

Been off the grid a bit and appreciate the "nudge" Skip.

The TA has been going through shakedown runs and we have encountered a couple issues and making a few more changes. Clutch is being changed from mechanical to hydraulic. We had to re-route some oil lines and fittings that worked loose and were sitting against the headers. The old DSE steering rack started leaking all over out of just about every line. We just replaced it instead of rebuilding. We are adding a parking brake to pass safety inspection in order to get the car registered. The power window motors had to be pulled, cleaned and re-assembled to get the windows to go up and down. Nuisance stuff for the most part.

Now the two bigger issues we are dealing with.
The Atomic EFI has a tuning issue at low RPM so working with MSD for an update to resolve the stumble off the line and low RPM's. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this when running a 4 barrel throttle body on an LS. MSD told us a fix is coming next month and it could be a good tech article for the system. Until then we are driving through it.

The Dynatech headers are no longer. They were way too low and scraped on everything. We chose to go with Ultimate Headers swept short/mid length headers. We are tucking the exhaust way up to get more ground clearance. They over-promised on delivery so what was supposed to be less than a week has turned into 3 weeks.

The good news is my wife Amy auto-crossed the car at her first event and took third in her class out of 17cars. I will post some pics.

fleet 06-24-2014 07:33 PM

Sounds like that TA is keeping you busy in your spare time Jay. :)

Nice results though for your wife already. :thumbsup:

chichirone 07-09-2014 09:51 PM

Moving on...cars going up for sale!
 
My wife and I have decided to move on from our 1969 Camaro and 1973 Trans Am. We want to go in a different direction. Looking at a Z06 or Z28 and want to invest in expanding my consulting business.

I simply don't have the time necessary to manage the car projects anymore. We are going to be putting our cars up for sale, buy a newer car to stay connected to the PT community that will require less time committment while we build out the business. It's bittersweet but we believe there will always be an opportunity to jump back in for us down the road.

I'll be putting the cars in the for sale section soon once we get all the appropriate spec information and pics to post on the site but I wanted to raise the flag to the lateral-g community we are moving on from our 1973 Trans Am and 1969 Camaro. If you have interest and want t learn more, please connect with me but I'll have them on the for sale page before long.

Vince@Meanstreets 07-09-2014 11:17 PM

I for one understand that sacrifices must be made to better your position in life but man it's tough.

I enjoyed watching your builds and wish you luck with your business.

tubbed69 07-10-2014 03:10 AM

Jay you sure built 2 super nice cars and quality cars like these should sell pretty quick,GLWS.

fleet 07-10-2014 03:32 AM

This one cuts deep Jay...plus we didn't even get a full year of fawning over a 'done' TA yet!

:waveflag:


Seriously...are you leaning one way or the other Z06 vs. Z28? :)

syborg tt 07-10-2014 07:23 AM

Jay,

It's a tough decision but it's a smart one. I love both of the cars you built and it was fun watching you build them. Good luck with the sales on both of these which shouldn't be a problem.

As for picking between the z06 and the z28 you might want to consider a 2014 or 2014 Camaro with the 1le track package. Incredible car for the money and you still have the creature comforts that the z28 does not have since it's more of a race car.


With the 1le you can drive it everyday and still have a beast at the track. Jump on over to the Camaro5.com forum and you will be impressed with what the guys at GM have done with the car.

I've converted my 2010 using some of the 1le parts and what a difference. It was comfortable enough to drive 1300 miles on the power tour and even drive both my girls to school. Best bang for the buck is the 1le for $40 grand brand new.

Stock 1LE puts down a blistering 1:54.628 at Fontana.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...1le+blistering



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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 559586)
My wife and I have decided to move on from our 1969 Camaro and 1973 Trans Am. We want to go in a different direction. Looking at a Z06 or Z28 and want to invest in expanding my consulting business.

I simply don't have the time necessary to manage the car projects anymore. We are going to be putting our cars up for sale, buy a newer car to stay connected to the PT community that will require less time committment while we build out the business. It's bittersweet but we believe there will always be an opportunity to jump back in for us down the road.

I'll be putting the cars in the for sale section soon once we get all the appropriate spec information and pics to post on the site but I wanted to raise the flag to the lateral-g community we are moving on from our 1973 Trans Am and 1969 Camaro. If you have interest and want t learn more, please connect with me but I'll have them on the for sale page before long.


chichirone 07-14-2014 03:57 PM

Guys, appreciate the feedback. It's a tough decision as we LOVE our cars. Marty, your suggestion of a 1LE is a good one. In fact, the more I look, a 2014 Z51 2LT is leading the list for us at this time. We drove it at Bondurant in March and got hooked. It has become the comparison car for everything we look at, including the TA and Camaro.

We don't see the cars going anywhere soon so we will continue to enjoy them until the right buyer comes along.

chichirone 07-14-2014 03:59 PM

Seriously...are you leaning one way or the other Z06 vs. Z28? :)[/QUOTE]

I lean towards the Z28. My wife the Z51. Wonder how that's gonna turn out? Ha!

chichirone 07-14-2014 06:30 PM

Header Pics
 
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A while back I mentioned I would post some pics of the Dynatech to Ultimate Header swap.

Here is a before...we had roughly 2.25" of clearance. Not good. They lasted less than a month of driving once we got it off the transporter.
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The replacements: Ultimate headers

In the box:
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Installation was great on the passenger side:
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The driver side did not fit and needed modified:
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Once modified and installed we picked up all kinds of ground clearance:
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fleet 07-14-2014 07:36 PM

Good stuff Jay. :thumbsup:

syborg tt 07-15-2014 07:25 AM

Hi Jay,

Thanks for sharing the info on the headers. I ended up doing shorty's on the 70 for just this reason. I am going to consider these for the new Scott Mock Subframe that is for sure.

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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 560444)
A while back I mentioned I would post some pics of the Dynatech to Ultimate Header swap.

Here is a before...we had roughly 2.25" of clearance. Not good. They lasted less than a month of driving once we got it off the transporter.
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The replacements: Ultimate headers

In the box:
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Installation was great on the passenger side:
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The driver side did not fit and needed modified:
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Once modified and installed we picked up all kinds of ground clearance:
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rickpaw 07-15-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 560444)
A while back I mentioned I would post some pics of the Dynatech to Ultimate Header swap.

Here is a before...we had roughly 2.25" of clearance. Not good. They lasted less than a month of driving once we got it off the transporter.
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The replacements: Ultimate headers

In the box:
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Jay, is it me or does the O2 sensor bung got installed wrong? Looks to me the bung is at the bottom of the header.

I had the same issue with the Dynatech headers as well, until I flipped the mounts 180*.

Tu

syborg tt 07-15-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 560585)
Jay, is it me or does the O2 sensor bung got installed wrong? Looks to me the bung is at the bottom of the header.

I had the same issue with the Dynatech headers as well, until I flipped the mounts 180*.

Tu

Pictures are deceiving. The bung is on the part that is parallel with the firewall not the floor pan.

chichirone 10-10-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 560589)
Pictures are deceiving. The bung is on the part that is parallel with the firewall not the floor pan.

The pics are deceiving. The header and exhaust runs parallel to the firewall and the bung is tucked up in the engine bay. You barely see it if looking at it from above.

We have been having a great time with the cars the past couple weeks. I will post some pics from the North Texas Camaro Club auto cross and Good-Guy's Lonestar Nationals at Texas Motor Speedway soon. We closed the classified thread. We were able to complete our business deal without selling either car and so now we just get to enjoy them!

chichirone 10-11-2014 10:36 AM

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grendel 10-11-2014 05:40 PM

You said the wiper motor was moved on the 73? Do you have pics of this?

May want to do that on my 73 Camaro.

Also, may be interested in buying the 73. I've wanted one for a while now.

chichirone 10-11-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 573710)
You said the wiper motor was moved on the 73? Do you have pics of this?

May want to do that on my 73 Camaro.

Also, may be interested in buying the 73. I've wanted one for a while now.

I'll look for the pics. We did the same mod to my 69 Camaro in this thread as well. It was relocated inside the drivers side fender on the firewall.

The TA is no longer for sale.

glassman 10-11-2014 09:07 PM

Hey Jay, i drove my 2nd gen from CA to texas with the goodguys last week and met your wife but not you (i was with Bryan). I was asking her about having to sell/not sell it, i'm glad you were able to keep them both. Can you imagine trying to replace them in a couple of years if you did have to sell?

My headers wore thru while i was there in Ft Worth and if effed my car up bad (they were only 1 3/4 off the ground) and put me in a full rich mode on my LS, mileage went from 24 at 90 to 16 at 80/85. Headers and a few other things are on my list.

Was hopin to meet you and see the 69, but maybe next time....

Mike

grendel 10-12-2014 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 573735)
I'll look for the pics. We did the same mod to my 69 Camaro in this thread as well. It was relocated inside the drivers side fender on the firewall.

The TA is no longer for sale.

Awesome, on both accounts :)

chichirone 10-13-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 573744)
Hey Jay, i drove my 2nd gen from CA to texas with the goodguys last week and met your wife but not you (i was with Bryan). I was asking her about having to sell/not sell it, i'm glad you were able to keep them both. Can you imagine trying to replace them in a couple of years if you did have to sell?

My headers wore thru while i was there in Ft Worth and if effed my car up bad (they were only 1 3/4 off the ground) and put me in a full rich mode on my LS, mileage went from 24 at 90 to 16 at 80/85. Headers and a few other things are on my list.

Was hopin to meet you and see the 69, but maybe next time....

Mike

Mike, sorry I missed the opportunity to meet you. Amy mentioned you stopped bye with Bryan. No kidding! I CAN'T imagine trying to replace them. Too bad you were not there Friday when I got pulled off the auto-x by Trent on the 4-wheeler. I think I heard the announcer say it was my fastest time of the day. Funny guy. The alternator housing gave up. I need to post a pic. I was able to get a replacement but it did not have enough amps to keep the electrical system charged. It spent Saturday on the charger at the event.

Sorry to hear about the headers. That sucks. You did not have much clearance for these Texas roads built for pickup trucks.

glassman 10-13-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chichirone (Post 574046)
Mike, sorry I missed the opportunity to meet you. Amy mentioned you stopped bye with Bryan. No kidding! I CAN'T imagine trying to replace them. Too bad you were not there Friday when I got pulled off the auto-x by Trent on the 4-wheeler. I think I heard the announcer say it was my fastest time of the day. Funny guy. The alternator housing gave up. I need to post a pic. I was able to get a replacement but it did not have enough amps to keep the electrical system charged. It spent Saturday on the charger at the event.

Sorry to hear about the headers. That sucks. You did not have much clearance for these Texas roads built for pickup trucks.

I was on the autocross friday, and i remember Bryan sayin that you had to go to "Autozone?" to replace it. I wanted to say, "drove 2400 miles, autocrossed it, then drove 1600 home". Well I did, but she limped home. I hope to do the trip again next year....I had to leave the autocross early cause the Goodguys wanted to get a cover shot of all of us "tour" people on the Gazette, they did it on the banks of the speedway, it was pretty cool.

chichirone 10-18-2014 01:19 PM

Mike, I can't believe I missed you both days. Glad you made it back home tho. I'm still waiting on the new alternator.

What have you decided to go with for the headers?

glassman 10-18-2014 04:34 PM

Unfortunatly Hooker middies. I am not happy AT ALL with Hooker, and this problem has led to bigger issues. The reason i am stuck using the Hooker's is when i bought the LS kit, it moved the engine over 1/2". Plus Keith at Custom Works is stepping up for Hooker and kickin me down a set. Hooker sent me a better fitting set, but just painted and i need coated.....I did make the show saturday, thats when i hung with Bryan and met Amy....took off on Sun. Made it to Kingsman AZ even with the two hour tow....

chichirone 10-27-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by grendel (Post 573710)
You said the wiper motor was moved on the 73? Do you have pics of this?

May want to do that on my 73 Camaro.

Also, may be interested in buying the 73. I've wanted one for a while now.

I finally found the pics.

Relocated the DSE wiper motor to the firewall under the driver side front fender.
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A hole was cut into the shell to gain access to the wiper arms, brackets and wiper motor.
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Its a little hard to see but the wiper arm has been extended across the cowl to reach the wiper motor.
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Smoothed firewall after relocated wiper motor. You can see it covered up for paint work.
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tubbed69 10-27-2014 04:50 PM

Jay I was glad to see you get to keep both cars,it would have been hard to replace them,because you made them both super nice:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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