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Sales@Dutchboys 01-06-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 456037)
Thanks for the input. But I'll NEVER have a black car. They look great when someone elso owns them and cleans them. If I had a black car it will be matt black. :) Talk to Joe and Paul. I'd ruin a black car rock chips and swirl marks all over it... LOL

Mark

Those Carbon Parts look great Mark, Looks like Anvil did their homework on them!:thumbsup:

I'm not usually a white person..but in Marks case..and how hard he is on a nice new paint job lol. I think its a pretty good idea. I really like something like this Camaro. With the carbon strip exposed up the middle, front the header,hood and wiper panel.

clill 01-06-2013 06:36 PM

Just stop it !!!!

GregWeld 01-06-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 456153)
Just stop it !!!!




I see another paint job in your future.....

Stielow 01-06-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoys (Post 456138)
Those Carbon Parts look great Mark, Looks like Anvil did their homework on them!:thumbsup:

I'm not usually a white person..but in Marks case..and how hard he is on a nice new paint job lol. I think its a pretty good idea. I really like something like this Camaro. With the carbon strip exposed up the middle, front the header,hood and wiper panel.

I think we'll paint it deep gloss black... and I'll drop it off to the VanNus's to fix one a month.....:willy:

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 456153)
Just stop it !!!!

Murray Pfaff is doing some renderings soon, so it will firm up in the next few months. I may do something other than white.

I worked on the mirrors today. I need to convert the remote adjuster to just a manual set up. The carbon "bullet" mirrors look cool in carbon.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psa633a88c.jpg

Mark

Track Junky 01-06-2013 07:23 PM

How about garnet red with a matt black hood and header panel surrounded with a matt black pinstripe? And then add a set of satin black GA3R's. :unibrow:

Seen this on a new model Camaro at a local dealership and it looked sweet!!

JohnC 01-06-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoys (Post 456138)
Those Carbon Parts look great Mark, Looks like Anvil did their homework on them!:thumbsup:

I'm not usually a white person..but in Marks case..and how hard he is on a nice new paint job lol. I think its a pretty good idea. I really like something like this Camaro. With the carbon strip exposed up the middle, front the header,hood and wiper panel.


That's cool, Paul. I thought of that scheme too. Iconic Z/28 rally stripes would expose all three panels as well.

It will be bitchin no matter what:thumbsup: Can't wait to see the rendering..

rallystyle 01-06-2013 07:42 PM

with all the weight loss stuff your putting on i am surprised you dont have a autorad on it. not sure what the weight differance would be but at least it would be off the front of the car.

syborg tt 01-06-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoys (Post 456138)
Those Carbon Parts look great Mark, Looks like Anvil did their homework on them!:thumbsup:

I'm not usually a white person..but in Marks case..and how hard he is on a nice new paint job lol. I think its a pretty good idea. I really like something like this Camaro. With the carbon strip exposed up the middle, front the header,hood and wiper panel.

Paul that is one of my favorite paint jobs - Flat White rocks

however flat black is cool

DEIGuy38 01-06-2013 11:18 PM

I know a guy that had a set of carbon fiber doors for a 69 laying around. SO light you could pick it up with one finger. Don't know if you could put windows in them though.

Ummgawa 01-07-2013 07:44 AM

Hey Mark, save yourself some $$, smooth out the body and have the car wrapped in CF looking adhesive. A CF 69 Camaro might look cool....might. Problem might come if you are hauling butt and it comes off. Folks might think you went so fast you outran your paint job.

By the way, thanks for all the info. This has been as good a thread as I have read here. Course, I don't get out much.:D

Roberts68 01-07-2013 08:44 AM

Vinyl Car Wraps are not to be overlooked and might lend themselves well to Marks style of driving. The OneLap Camaro has done wraps hasn't it? Were there issues with adhesion there?

Doing a Carbon Fiber "look" base with graphics over could be a cool look on a '69, but it is an "import" trend:( .

Mark has never been shy about painting over CF parts before so I won't hold my breath about leaving them nekkid just to show off that he has CF on his car.

I would propose something in a nostalgic graphic/stripe theme... maybe a homage to Baldwin Motion or Yenko 427 Supercars is due since Mark is using the Thomson 427SC motors now? These cars are proving to win not just Supercar but "Ultimate Streetcar" status... :bow:
:D

I will echo all the comments of appreciation for the information flow from this level of build. Sincerely, Thanks to all of you making such vast contributions of knowledge.

Sales@Dutchboys 01-07-2013 10:36 AM

What are you guys trying to do, put me out of buisness!?? Lol I agree somewhat with the wrap. Mark drives his cars like rentals. Which is cool. I really enjoy seeing a all around quality built car out flogging it out on the track.
A wrap would be a lot better than this flat black nonsense! Lol:willy:
Whatever will be cool I'm looking forward to seeing what Murry will design. I'm sure it will be awesome.

Sieg 01-07-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoys (Post 456339)
What are you guys trying to do, put me out of buisness!?? Lol

Or diversify your profit opportunities? :D

Sonar Chief 01-07-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 456315)
I will echo all the comments of appreciation for the information flow from this level of build. Sincerely, Thanks to all of you making such vast contributions of knowledge.

:hail: :hail: Could not have said that any better!

wiedemab 01-07-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoys (Post 456339)
What are you guys trying to do, put me out of buisness!?? Lol I agree somewhat with the wrap. Mark drives his cars like rentals. Which is cool. I really enjoy seeing a all around quality built car out flogging it out on the track.
A wrap would be a lot better than this flat black nonsense! Lol:willy:
Whatever will be cool I'm looking forward to seeing what Murry will design. I'm sure it will be awesome.

I think you should just rough it up with a grinder and Rhino Line it! :P

In all seriousness. I am really looking forward to seeing this project unfold.

Roberts68 01-07-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wiedemab (Post 456349)
I think you should just rough it up with a grinder and Rhino Line it! :P

Careful what you wish for with an Engineer. That suggestion made me think of the aerodynamic advantages dimples bring to a golf ball... or the rough surface shark suits that broke records in Olympic swimming or coatings used in Americas' Cup.

I'm not even an engineer I just interact with them from time to time.;)

How good are the Dutch boys at "intentional denting to improve wind drag coefficient" techniques?:lol:

Sparks67 01-07-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchBoys (Post 456138)
Those Carbon Parts look great Mark, Looks like Anvil did their homework on them!:thumbsup:

I'm not usually a white person..but in Marks case..and how hard he is on a nice new paint job lol. I think its a pretty good idea. I really like something like this Camaro. With the carbon strip exposed up the middle, front the header,hood and wiper panel.

Actually, a pearl white might be a better option. Mark could still have stripes as well, but in Carbon Fiber. Well, here is a link of Lamborghini in Pearl White and carbon fiber interior.

http://www.gothamdreamcars.com/new-y...40-rental.htm#


Going to chip regardless of the color.

Jeff

Z10ROD 01-07-2013 02:54 PM

Great Thread:lateral:

clill 01-07-2013 02:57 PM

Ha !!! I want to see Mark put Pearl on a car. Nothing looks better than a beat up Pearl paint job.

Sparks67 01-07-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 456407)
Ha !!! I want to see Mark put Pearl on a car. Nothing looks better than a beat up Pearl paint job.

Just use a paint protection kit, like Xpel. No one notice it.

Wissing72 01-07-2013 03:29 PM

The "frozen" colors that are coming out look pretty cool. Mostly just a flat clear... Just sayin' my .02

kwhizz 01-07-2013 03:52 PM

Paint it the Tri-Stage Corvette Burgandy...........LOL

GregWeld 01-07-2013 04:00 PM

I'm so confused.....

BonzoHansen 01-07-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gmtech921 (Post 456416)
The "frozen" colors that are coming out look pretty cool. Mostly just a flat clear... Just sayin' my .02

oh god no. his cars are driven and get chips and swirls. and it's too trendy. Mark sets trends, he doesn't follow them! Might was well go with the color shifting crud they seem to paint every 4th fox body with.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-07-2013 11:37 PM

Forget all the color talk, let's see more build pictures.

WILWAXU 01-08-2013 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456426)
I'm so confused.....

Me too.. maybe there should be another thread on "debate Mark's color choice" ;)

Z10ROD 01-08-2013 07:01 AM

I'm knida curious how you are going to attach the grill to that lower valance
Ideas ?? I am interested in the CF because of the bumper and spoiler?

coolwelder62 01-08-2013 07:28 AM

Why don't we start a pool.We will all chip in $5 bucks and who ever gets the color right wins the pool.Then the winner donate's the money St.jude's.:thumbsup:

Wissing72 01-08-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 456485)
oh god no. his cars are driven and get chips and swirls. and it's too trendy. Mark sets trends, he doesn't follow them! Might was well go with the color shifting crud they seem to paint every 4th fox body with.

I hear that I was more than anything, just throwing it into the mix. I didn't want to get left out of the opinion section... LOL:lol: That color shift was cool for about a min. until everybody had to do it:faint:


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Why don't we start a pool.We will all chip in $5 bucks and who ever gets the color right wins the pool.Then the winner donate's the money St.jude's.

That is a good idea. I think there would be alot of people on board! would it be a "pay-pal" type of deal?

redfire69 01-08-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Z10ROD (Post 456557)
I'm knida curious how you are going to attach the grill to that lower valance
Ideas ?? I am interested in the CF because of the bumper and spoiler?

There are no provisions to attach the lower valance to a stock grill. On my car I'm making up brackets to connect the lower grill to the rad support structure.

GRob 01-08-2013 10:06 AM

Looks fantastic. Very nice as usual Mark. :thumbsup:

MattG 01-08-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 453635)
There are new tires out for 2013 so I'm revisiting my tire sizes. I have room to go with a 18 X 11 front wheel and a 18 X 13 rear. I could also push to 19s. I need to test a few tires and see what works out.

Mark

Mark,

Just wondering if you could expand on what new tires are coming out this year...I am almost ready for tires, and would like something new other than the typical BFG's and such.

Matt

Z10ROD 01-08-2013 12:04 PM

Ron
so does the bottom edge of the grill fit behind the bumper??
could you panel bond an L bracket on the back side??

Thanks Rod

redfire69 01-08-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Z10ROD (Post 456627)
Ron
so does the bottom edge of the grill fit behind the bumper??
could you panel bond an L bracket on the back side??

Thanks Rod

Hey Rod, The anvil valance integrates the bumper and valance all in one part, so the grill fits behind it fine. The grill must actually be installed before the lower valance. You could bond brackets directly to the valance to attach to the grill. It might be difficult bolting them together since you would have to do this from under the car behind the grill. Ron

GRob 01-08-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MattG (Post 456607)
Mark,

Just wondering if you could expand on what new tires are coming out this year...I am almost ready for tires, and would like something new other than the typical BFG's and such.

Matt

Just guessing here, but there are new tires for the Gen V Viper out (355 rears!) and the new Corvette will probably have new gen tires as well.

Stielow 01-09-2013 07:14 PM

A couple updates:

I reworked the Anvil Mirrors so I can mount them on the car this week. I used the mechanism out of some old 2nd Gen Fcar mirrors. I had to rework the driver’s side to get rid of the remote adjustment. The Anvil parts have no way to mount the so I made aluminum inserts to mount them.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psec5ebfff.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7289b6f3.jpg

Matt replaces the wrinkled quarter panel with an OE gauge sheet metal. We cut the gills out of a stock quarter to get a crisper stamping. When Matt is done you won't be able to tell we replaced it.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...psdb798f99.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...pse169e578.jpg

OK now you can get back to debating the color.....

Mark

WSSix 01-09-2013 07:25 PM

Green! Because everyone will be envious of the car. :D

carbuff 01-09-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 456951)

Mark,

Did you glue the mirrors to these aluminum brackets, or are they attached with hardware?

Compared to the size of the screws that held those things on originally, I don't think you have to worry about those flying off any time soon... :cheers:

Thanx!

GregWeld 01-09-2013 08:33 PM

Bryan -

Engineers don't "glue" things ---- they BOND stuff together.


:lol: :lol:

carbuff 01-09-2013 08:38 PM

Ha! True dat... Guess that's why I'm an EE and not an ME or CE. :)

It really does look like 'glue' in that picture I quoted though. ;)


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