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CURVES 03-22-2015 09:54 AM

Did I miss something?

What happened to the other subframe?

Sieg 03-22-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 599605)
lol... You know, Ol Foose would have bondo'd up those hammer marks on that after straightening it back out. Jus' sayin'

And what's with all of the oil deposits? I know you don't need any corrosion protection out there. ;)

And that rod through the control arm pickup points trick, where'd you learn that from. http://www.speedinfinity.net/forums/...lt/popcorn.gif

Nice work Sieg, keep it up.

Norwood has enough bondo, thankfully it's not lead or he would be 200 lbs. heavier. :sieg:

The first two pictures were taken 5 years ago BF (before fire) after having the motor freshened up and telling the machine shop how much I hate oil leaks, new Milodon pan, timing cover, Felpro one piece silicone gasket, Right Stuff sealant, and assurance that it wouldn't............it only leaks half as much. :bang:

The rod trick came from the masochist of measurement..........I think you know the guy. :rules:

Thanks :thumbsup:

Sieg 03-22-2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 599607)
Those come from NOT running an LS motor.....

Well, I don't have any cooling issues..............I got that going for me. :mock:

Sieg 03-22-2015 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CURVES (Post 599614)
Did I miss something?

What happened to the other subframe?

It's leaning against the wall......waiting for social security to fund it. :D

If the subframe comes out, so does the motor and that means upgrades that don't mesh with poor Norwood's current budget limitations. :shakehead:

CURVES 03-22-2015 10:31 AM

I thought maybe you'd try the method Customworks used on Glassman's car....

But I get it :D

GregWeld 03-22-2015 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 599616)
Well, I don't have any cooling issues..............I got that going for me. :mock:

That was an installer error -- sometimes you DO NOT get what you pay for.... LOL

GregWeld 03-22-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CURVES (Post 599620)
I thought maybe you'd try the method Customworks used on Glassman's car....

But I get it :D





That should have been a driver re-install.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-22-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 599621)
That was an installer error -- sometimes you DO NOT get what you pay for.... LOL

:action-smiley-027:

SSLance 03-22-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 599615)
The rod trick came from the masochist of measurement..........I think you know the guy. :rules:

lol... That the PERFECT name for him...

Sieg 03-23-2015 05:05 AM

I finished what the StarBright media couldn't yesterday with my tried and true electric drill and wire wheel.......

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-P...PCJcMkP-X2.jpg

I'll treat the uppers and lowers with Ospho today since I had good results on my floorboards prior to painting with POR 15.
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-r...-rsLPJ35-L.jpg

If you're not familiar with Ospho, I'd check it out. I've used the product over the last 30+ years and have been very impressed. www.ospho.com

I ordered 3 aerosol cans of POR 15 Top Coat in Chassis Black yesterday so I should have the pieces painted Tuesday night if all goes well.

Sieg 03-29-2015 07:44 AM

I've shelved Norwood and moved on a more challenging and rewarding project...........

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-j...jTZWmCn-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-j...jL8ZTNC-XL.jpg

Murray the ditch mower is getting a Mad Max overhaul. :unibrow:

GregWeld 03-29-2015 07:46 AM

Stretching the wheelbase -- ala a Jakes Rod Shop version??


Or are you going with the offset 3 link?



Just FYI -- I did the "Bryan Cope Salt Lick Conversion" to my Barbecue last summer.

Sieg 03-29-2015 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 600459)
Stretching the wheelbase -- ala a Jakes Rod Shop version??


Or are you going with the offset 3 link?



Just FYI -- I did the "Bryan Cope Salt Lick Conversion" to my Barbecue last summer.

I'm not sure if Sutton works on front wheel drive vehicles, but rest assured I'll be contacting him.

A decoupled 3-link for the rear drive (handle) could have substantial benefits negotiating the 2:1 slope in the backyard.

Did you add a composter to your BBQ? :sieg:

GregWeld 03-29-2015 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 600460)
I'm not sure if Sutton works on front wheel drive vehicles, but rest assured I'll be contacting him.

A decoupled 3-link for the rear drive (handle) could have substantial benefits negotiating the 2:1 slope in the backyard.

Did you add a composter to your BBQ? :sieg:




There's a separate room inside the house for that.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-29-2015 09:56 AM

front wheel drive? do what all the other front wheel drive crazies do and a add a big honkin spoiler to the rear.

Sieg 03-29-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 600469)
front wheel drive? do what all the other front wheel drive crazies do and a add a big honkin spoiler to the rear.

:idea: Mount a small turbo up front and pipe it to nowhere!

Vince@Meanstreets 03-29-2015 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 600477)
:idea: Mount a small turbo up front and pipe it to nowhere!

well in the spirit of this build, i'd go twin leaf blowers.

Che70velle 03-30-2015 04:20 AM

It's all about the camber guys. Sieg, put so much negative caber on Mr. Murray, that the inside of the wheels rub the dirt.

Sieg 03-30-2015 06:56 AM

:superhack: :weld: :unibrow:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-R...-RQ5WsrT-L.jpg

GregWeld 03-30-2015 06:58 AM

The old grey mare.... she ain't what she used to be.....

Ron in SoCal 03-30-2015 02:01 PM

So we're down to lawn mowers now? :sieg:

http://www.mylawnmowerforum.com/#/forumsite/20476 :thumbsup:

Sieg 03-30-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 600577)
So we're down to lawn mowers now? :sieg:

http://www.mylawnmowerforum.com/#/forumsite/20476 :thumbsup:

Bad Ron - Please........Honor Diversity.


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Greg from Aus 03-30-2015 03:13 PM

So are you changing the name of the thread to Norlawns :sieg:

Ron in SoCal 03-30-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 600580)
Bad Ron - Please........Honor Diversity.


:action-smiley-027:

You saw the thumbs up and the forum link right?

All in good fun Siegmeister and thanks for the material :D

DavidBoren 04-01-2015 06:50 AM

Great background and build. This thread really encompasses a lot of what goes into this hobby. The passion and sentiment, the life-long friends you meet along the way, the pain of defeat, the joys of victory, and the hours spent losing sleep and blood and sweat and money... and, most of all, it shows how little work gets done. The bull$#!+ to work ratio is very well represented in this thread.

Sieg 04-01-2015 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg from Aus (Post 600584)
So are you changing the name of the thread to Norlawns :sieg:

I'm thinking Normurray........my interpretation of ebonics for normally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 600588)
You saw the thumbs up and the forum link right?

All in good fun Siegmeister and thanks for the material :D

Absolutely! :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidBoren (Post 600828)
Great background and build. This thread really encompasses a lot of what goes into this hobby. The passion and sentiment, the life-long friends you meet along the way, the pain of defeat, the joys of victory, and the hours spent losing sleep and blood and sweat and money... and, most of all, it shows how little work gets done. The bull$#!+ to work ratio is very well represented in this thread.

Thanks........wouldn't have it any other way, it's been a great journey. :cheers:

GregWeld 04-01-2015 07:28 AM

I'd like to see the cross weight numbers now with the "addition".

What grit disc did you use on the cut off wheel?

If you tape - do you use the blue long lasting or the green longer lasting?

Did you TIG or MIG the "addition/repair"?

Do you know the color code? I'd like to paint some scrap I have that color.

Will you use staggered sizes on the tires?

What is the backspacing on those wheels?

Greg from Aus 04-01-2015 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 600833)
I'd like to see the cross weight numbers now with the "addition".

What grit disc did you use on the cut off wheel?

If you tape - do you use the blue long lasting or the green longer lasting?

Did you TIG or MIG the "addition/repair"?

Do you know the color code? I'd like to paint some scrap I have that color.

Will you use staggered sizes on the tires?

What is the backspacing on those wheels?

Way too many questions, Mr Weld. :poke:

Sieg 04-01-2015 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg from Aus (Post 600836)
Way too many questions, Mr Weld. :poke:

Those aren't questions.........they're opportunities for sarcastic journalism. :D

Priorities first.........:walkingdog: :weld:

Roberts68 04-01-2015 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 600833)
I'd like to see the cross weight numbers now with the "addition".

What grit disc did you use on the cut off wheel?

If you tape - do you use the blue long lasting or the green longer lasting?

Did you TIG or MIG the "addition/repair"?

Do you know the color code? I'd like to paint some scrap I have that color.

Will you use staggered sizes on the tires?

What is the backspacing on those wheels?

I see what you did there... I think. :D :popcorn2:

GregWeld 04-01-2015 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg from Aus (Post 600836)
Way too many questions, Mr Weld. :poke:




HAHAHAHAHAHA ----- it's called being an ASKhole.....


LOL

Sieg 04-02-2015 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 600833)
I'd like to see the cross weight numbers now with the "addition".

Didn't weigh it in advance, but considering the weight loss from the cancer which took the 14 ga stamping down to zero gauge, I'm guessing Murray gained 3-4 lbs. As he was already nose heavy due to the FW drive system, the counter weighting should actually benefit the balance and no doubt lower lap times.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-M...MhqLWGm-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-j...j6H6CKh-XL.jpg

Quote:

What grit disc did you use on the cut off wheel?
40 grit Harbor Freight premiums.........Because they're cheap.

Quote:

If you tape - do you use the blue long lasting or the green longer lasting?
Yellow..........Because it's cheap.

Quote:

Did you TIG or MIG the "addition/repair"?
MIG...........Because it's cheap.

Quote:

Do you know the color code? I'd like to paint some scrap I have that color.
I'm thinking it's a '69 Torino color.

Quote:

Will you use staggered sizes on the tires? What is the backspacing on those wheels?
Slight stagger due to one worn OEM and one Wilco replacement that wasn't cheap at $6.95.

Zero backspace to maximize track width and I really didn't want to fab custom axles or mini-tub it.

:action-smiley-027:

Sieg 04-02-2015 06:13 AM

For the control arms I went with POR-15 Chassis Black now available in aerosol. Overall I was very pleased with how it sprayed, covered, and finished out. I sprayed a relatively heavy first sealing coat and moderately heavy second coat about 12 hours after the first coat. It took about 1.2 cans for the four arms.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2...2ZFQQ7N-X2.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-t...ttGSWpq-X2.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2...2zr4r3X-X2.jpg

Sieg 04-13-2015 08:37 PM

Murray Mad Max V1.2 was completed a while ago and performed better than OEM.......FWIW. :D

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-V...VCRLCVF-XL.jpg

Sieg 04-13-2015 09:03 PM

Not much time for electronic entertainment lately........every spare minute has been dedicated to shelving the jackstands under Norwood.

Hotchkis anti-roll bar mounted and shimmed to eliminate bushing bind.....makes me wonder how many bars are installed with the bushing induced death grip.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4...4VT7r5Z-XL.jpg

New GW cross-shafts and delrin bushings.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-B...BXT6DG3-XL.jpg

Few of the fabricated press tools for the upper control arm bushings.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-v...vHF32rz-XL.jpg

Majority of press related tooling.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z...ZCPnCR2-X2.jpg

Completed control arms with ProForged ball joints and GW bushings installed.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-L...LDHcv3G-X2.jpg

ProForged tie rod ends and billet couplers ready for installation. The ProForged parts are exceptionally nice pieces for the dollar and in the case of the idler arm previously installed, it was every bit the quality of the Moog piece but allowed the needed header clearance. The Moog idler was pinned against the header tube which would have lead to very premature failure as the internal bushing is synthetic.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-G...GsKmJkc-XL.jpg

New digital camber/caster gauge and homemade adapter.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-W...WbBZctK-X2.jpg

New home fabricated class III laser alignment tool.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-P...PXzvLbm-X2.jpg

A LOT of work and head-scratching.........and shim changes. :bang:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3...3QhQLX4-X2.jpg

Flash68 04-13-2015 09:44 PM

Sieg you are just too cool with all your tinkering. Nice work kid. Those control arms look sweet. You comin down next month?

Sieg 04-14-2015 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 602175)
Sieg you are just too cool with all your tinkering. Nice work kid. Those control arms look sweet. You comin down next month?

Regretfully no.........I have a date with a 20+ year old friend.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/People/Paisl...MAG2106-XL.jpg

Payton King 04-14-2015 06:07 AM

Cool stuff going on right there. Good use of the spare time since the text train was derailed.

Panteracer 04-14-2015 09:04 AM

Norwoods
 
This is truly built not bought
Cool stuff Sieg... really like the home made
adapters for your tools and the fact
you are the alignment shop..
Been learning how to do some of this front
end tuning myself... better than wondering
what the shop really did.. plus you can adjust
it even at the track if you want

Bob

Flash68 04-14-2015 11:10 AM

Pew pew pew.


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