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Ron in SoCal 03-02-2013 06:31 PM

Joe Biden says, "Buy a shotgun!"


out2kayak 03-03-2013 05:52 PM

John Stossel learned this when he studied the gun issue and then reported on the May 4, 2007 edition of 20/20, "[G]un control isn't necessarily crime control. ...[T]he National Academy of Sciences reviewed hundreds of studies and could not document a single gun regulation that reduced violent crime or murder."

Florida State University criminologist Dr. Gary Kleck found that guns are used by Americans to ward off criminals 2.2 to 2.5 million times per year. Of course, these defensive uses of firearms wouldn't be necessary if there weren't so much criminality in the first place. And this brings us to the most important point: when criminality increases to fearsome levels is when good people need guns most.

Dr Gary Kleck states there are at least 13 published studies finding no meaningful connection between the rate of firearms ownership and the rate of suicides. The consensus of experts, he says, is that an increase in gun ownership doesn't raise the number of people who kill themselves--only the number who do it with a gun.

http://www.criminology.fsu.edu/p/new...ives.php?id=30

http://www.saf.org/lawreviews/kleckandgertz1.htm

If we take the premise that gun ownership does not increase the rate of suicides, wards off criminals and control does not reduce the violent crime or murder rate, why are we so willing to give up our Constitutional rights to the government in the name of "doing something"? Do we not realize that once liberty is given up, it is either forever lost or only regained through significant strife and hardship?

Have we allowed people like this woman to go too far?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZGWvwvH_0

Vince@Meanstreets 03-03-2013 10:43 PM

Its a big head line because the government is very afraid that its citizens are well armed and the worst part is they do not know who is. :disgusted:

Foil hat aside. I think something big is coming and they know it.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-03-2013 11:07 PM

Also check out how much crime has increased in the last few weeks nation wide.

glassman 03-04-2013 05:24 PM

So, with a huge shortage in ammo, are the Feds buying it all up to keep it from getting to the public?

Sorry, I'm late to the party and wow, 58 pages and counting...

Spiffav8 03-04-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassman (Post 468522)
So, with a huge shortage in ammo, are the Feds buying it all up to keep it from getting to the public?

Sorry, I'm late to the party and wow, 58 pages and counting...

Not sure, but when they are buying ten times more than was fired in the entire Iraq war, you have to stop and ask your self why.

Tony_SS 03-05-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 468537)
Not sure, but when they are buying ten times more than was fired in the entire Iraq war, you have to stop and ask your self why.

This. It seems we have a domestic arms race going on... It's getting a little creepy. Here are 2 recent stories.

http://www.naturalnews.com/039345_DH..._vehicles.html

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-signs-4-...h-heckler-koch

Spiffav8 03-05-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony_SS (Post 468595)
This. It seems we have a domestic arms race going on... It's getting a little creepy. Here are 2 recent stories.

http://www.naturalnews.com/039345_DH..._vehicles.html

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-signs-4-...h-heckler-koch

Who knows. Makes it hard to prepare.

GregWeld 03-05-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 468537)
Not sure, but when they are buying ten times more than was fired in the entire Iraq war, you have to stop and ask your self why.


They're still training people.... and if there's a 100,000 guys training per day and each one only fires 100 rounds... that's a LOT of ammo. So of their stuff fires 30 round bursts... pull the trigger 3 times and you've gone through 100 rounds. Multiply that by what??

Just sayin' --- the gov has a lot of guys around using this stuff up.

GregWeld 03-05-2013 02:56 PM

How about a 14 year old GIRL with PROPER training!!!







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