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Bryce 01-31-2013 09:16 PM

car looks great! I cant wait to see this finished. Or maybe I can wait.

67zo6Camaro 01-31-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 461519)
Mascoll is great to work with. Really like how this came out. And with the varied wheels, flare shapes, spoiler sizes, and colors, this render project was a needed part of the process to get to completion. Of course the final final rendition in real life may be different... that's the nature of this game. :D

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f..._Mascoll_2.jpg

Boing............................................. ............:thumbsup:

Flash68 01-31-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461662)
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Geeze Scott

Now I have to publicly admit I love the look of the car and DGs overall vision of his project before he drops me in the grease.

Sure if he wasn't such a D.A. he would already have a nasty SB2 ready to drop in it; he'll get there soon. I hope by build # three he'll have this stuff figured out

So I dig the stance.:thumbsup:
I'm amped about something different on a Camaro that doesn't destroy the original lines of the car and I think the riveted/bolted on flares accomplish that to a T. It's all business with some race heritage so what's not to like. :D

The stripes :headscratch: Well hmmm :whistling: Uh welll.....

I F'ing hate them, Yea I said it :lol: Hate them as I do Eleanors. JMO

But DG loves the stripes and it's his car so that's what matters. Maybe he only loves them cuz he's stuck with them but he's stuck on them. Because he loves them; I feel I have to find a way to accept them. He's obviously a closet Mustang guy.

With the high strung SB2, the wide JRS front track and big rubber, dog box and other goodies this should be one hell of a track car and a really uncomfortable and sucky street car.:D

You have to choose what you want to suck at so you can focus on excelling in other areas. :action-smiley-027:



:guns: As was said recently. "time will tell" :lmao:

Might be your best post of all time. Can't argue with much of it. :lostmarbles:

Some days I don't like the stripes each other. Ok it was one day. Ok it was never. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 461665)
car looks great! I cant wait to see this finished. Or maybe I can wait.

Thanks Bryce. Yeah you can wait.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 461666)
Boing............................................. ............:thumbsup:

:idea: :happy23:

califconstruct 01-31-2013 09:50 PM

:It's gonna rock Dave!..
Things are starting to roll! Livewire is off the lift. Rich is gearing up for the next candidate! :D

John510 01-31-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 461622)
. Is that proportionally correct? I think if it were a little shorter in actuality that it wouldn't be so distracting.

Thats what she said :lol: :lmao: :lmao:

Flash68 01-31-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by califconstruct (Post 461670)
:It's gonna rock Dave!..
Things are starting to roll! Livewire is off the lift. Rich is gearing up for the next candidate! :D

Thanks Art... I heard the news... getting on the lift is pretty dang good progress for both of us. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by John510 (Post 461671)
Thats what she said :lol: :lmao: :lmao:

:lol: :thumbsup:

Rod P 01-31-2013 10:15 PM

I dig it Dave! who's making the fender flairs!:popcorn2:

Flash68 01-31-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod P (Post 461674)
I dig it Dave! who's making the fender flairs!:popcorn2:

our one and only....

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps79b0ba2d.png

FETorino 02-01-2013 12:06 AM

Who?

:cheering:

fleet 02-01-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 461679)

Them is some pretty muscular 'flairs for the Brettster to craft in his laboratory...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ps6eb4afb4.jpg

Sieg 02-01-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 461662)
Sure if he wasn't such a D.A. he would already have a nasty SB2 ready to drop in it; he'll get there soon. I hope by build # three he'll have this stuff figured out:lmao:

Are you implying his build planning resembles your trip planning? :sieg:

Flash68 02-01-2013 10:11 AM

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psaa30c196.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psa950fc51.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps52d04162.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps0e5f4689.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps6858fd11.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psc0718521.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps8bc04db8.jpg

Ron in SoCal 02-01-2013 10:13 AM

^ man that looks stout! :thumbsup:

(no more wifey references :D )

67zo6Camaro 02-01-2013 10:30 AM

Awsome progress pics. Much better than the stories about picking up laundry, dinner dates, what clothing to pick out......:poke:

This thread is starting to feel like a man cave again. :peepwall:

intocarss 02-01-2013 10:50 AM

I knew DG had a great lookn rear, but WOW that's HOT

Jtomas801 02-01-2013 10:50 AM

Dave, the car looks bad a$$. Love the flairs and a lot of cool parts going into this thing. I can't wait to see this thing up close, so get done already!! lol.


Jon

Rybar 02-01-2013 11:08 AM

That rendering looks awesome Dave. :thumbsup:

sixnina 02-03-2013 11:11 PM

Awesome progress Dave you gotta give me a ride when this things done.
Shane

sds machining 02-03-2013 11:25 PM

Did I miss what gear ratio is in or will be in that stout rear? Looks like a great set up...

Flash68 02-03-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtomas801 (Post 461781)
Dave, the car looks bad a$$. Love the flairs and a lot of cool parts going into this thing. I can't wait to see this thing up close, so get done already!! lol.


Jon

Thank you. I really like what you got goin on with that Javelin! Great parts list.

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Originally Posted by sixnina (Post 462257)
Awesome progress Dave you gotta give me a ride when this things done.
Shane

Absolutely. I am sure there will be quite a bit of runs in Gilroy on our "testing ground" there. Come check it out when we are getting close.

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Originally Posted by sds machining (Post 462259)
Did I miss what gear ratio is in or will be in that stout rear? Looks like a great set up...

Thanks... No diff secured yet... looking for a Locker to try either with 3.64 or 3.70, and then may move into a Trutrac. Never driven a Locker before and interested to try it out.

Lookin fwd to seeing your Nova project after that Camaro you just built. :thumbsup:

byndbad914 02-04-2013 12:50 AM

like the choice of housing for a race car; I see so many cars with housings that are more for an unlimited class offroad truck, so keeping that unsprung weight down is a smart idea. Did you have any camber welded into it? Circle track guys get around -0.5 deg neg in the rear without too much funkiness with the axles. I have heard of around -2 deg but that takes some special parts so the axles don't bind. Not sure if you have messed with any of that.

Have you put any thought to moving the exhaust tips into the rockers (french them in to be even on the bottom with the rest of the rocker)? It would look pretty cool IMO and more like it is part of the car.

There was a 69 Camaro in Popular Hot Rodding June 04 from the NorCal area now that I think about it. I have a fistful of magazines I have kept as inspiration whenever I think about a project and that is one of them so I just pulled it out of the drawer. Big flares, Nascar setup, but had a big wing on the rear I wasn't a big fan of visually. Your rendering reminded me of it and I prefer the look of the spoiler.

found a pic on the Hot Rod site, PHR blocked theirs.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl.../photo_01.html

Vince@Meanstreets 02-04-2013 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 461622)
I really like it. My only thought is that the exhaust is so long. Is that proportionally correct? I think if it were a little shorter in actuality that it wouldn't be so distracting.

Personally I'd dig into that rocker and raise them bitties up, that way you can get that car low as it supposed to be.


Let me know if you need anything made, I'd like to help where I can.

Flash68 02-04-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byndbad914 (Post 462263)
like the choice of housing for a race car; I see so many cars with housings that are more for an unlimited class offroad truck, so keeping that unsprung weight down is a smart idea. Did you have any camber welded into it? Circle track guys get around -0.5 deg neg in the rear without too much funkiness with the axles. I have heard of around -2 deg but that takes some special parts so the axles don't bind. Not sure if you have messed with any of that.

Have you put any thought to moving the exhaust tips into the rockers (french them in to be even on the bottom with the rest of the rocker)? It would look pretty cool IMO and more like it is part of the car.

There was a 69 Camaro in Popular Hot Rodding June 04 from the NorCal area now that I think about it. I have a fistful of magazines I have kept as inspiration whenever I think about a project and that is one of them so I just pulled it out of the drawer. Big flares, Nascar setup, but had a big wing on the rear I wasn't a big fan of visually. Your rendering reminded me of it and I prefer the look of the spoiler.

found a pic on the Hot Rod site, PHR blocked theirs.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl.../photo_01.html

My chassis/rear end guy (Jake) is what I would call a Pro-Touring guy turned Racer. He is tuned in to both areas - and most people are clearly on one side of that fence I have found. We also talk about the trade offs for parts and specs - I have wanted this to be killer on a track and set up right but be able to be driven to work occasionally.

He did not think any rear camber would be worth it for me so we went with none. We did consider it.

I'd love to put the exhaust into the rockers but that is just more time and money and I love the boom tube as it is. It is quite think actually and I am hoping we can tuck it as nicely with the new torque arm as we had it before. Some cutting should be needed I imagine.

I know exactly the 69 Camaro you speak of... I talked to the shop that did the flares on that car not too long ago as that car is local to me. He doesn't run it much anymore -- he bought a Z06 -- yawn.

That car is definitely on my short list for inspiration as well. My spoilers should be finished soon and they should be pretty cool and still functional. I am not quite into the big wing camp yet.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 462264)
Personally I'd dig into that rocker and raise them bitties up, that way you can get that car low as it supposed to be.


Let me know if you need anything made, I'd like to help where I can.

Vince, did you hire any help down there yet? I hear your shop is bustin at the seams!

The car should get reasonably low but I don't want too low. The flares should actually make it look lower than it is and the larger (lower) front spoiler will do its job we think. It has been tested at high speeds on faster tracks than what we have out here.

I'd love to get you involved somehow. Let me see if I can get something worked in. :thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 02-04-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 462323)
My chassis/rear end guy (Jake) is what I would call a Pro-Touring guy turned Racer. He is tuned in to both areas - and most people are clearly on one side of that fence I have found. We also talk about the trade offs for parts and specs - I have wanted this to be killer on a track and set up right but be able to be driven to work occasionally.

He did not think any rear camber would be worth it for me so we went with none. We did consider it.

I'd love to put the exhaust into the rockers but that is just more time and money and I love the boom tube as it is. It is quite think actually and I am hoping we can tuck it as nicely with the new torque arm as we had it before. Some cutting should be needed I imagine.

I know exactly the 69 Camaro you speak of... I talked to the shop that did the flares on that car not too long ago as that car is local to me. He doesn't run it much anymore -- he bought a Z06 -- yawn.

That car is definitely on my short list for inspiration as well. My spoilers should be finished soon and they should be pretty cool and still functional. I am not quite into the big wing camp yet.

Thanks



Vince, did you hire any help down there yet? I hear your shop is bustin at the seams!

The car should get reasonably low but I don't want too low. The flares should actually make it look lower than it is and the larger (lower) front spoiler will do its job we think. It has been tested at high speeds on faster tracks than what we have out here.

I'd love to get you involved somehow. Let me see if I can get something worked in. :thumbsup:

yeah just keep me in mind. I know Rich got you handled but let me know. I love to work with local businesses to keep stuff efficient and in CA.

No hired help yet. Busting at the seams not quite but close. 7 Projects in the shop and 4 waiting in the wings you can't complain.

Flash68 02-07-2013 04:11 PM

making progress..... but I am in line behind this thing... 781 cubic inch. :guns:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps2868ec80.jpg

I am back in the queue early next week Mike says. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 02-07-2013 04:20 PM

Exact same CI that my Freightliner has! OMG!! I almost passed out when I saw this bad boy... Nothing better than a big azz motor on a dyno. Bet she shakes the whole building. Ya gotta be there when they run it and post video!!!!

Oh.... and you're small block is okay too.... I guess. :lmao:

Flash68 02-07-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 463148)
Exact same CI that my Freightliner has! OMG!! I almost passed out when I saw this bad boy... Nothing better than a big azz motor on a dyno. Bet she shakes the whole building. Ya gotta be there when they run it and post video!!!!

Oh.... and you're small block is okay too.... I guess. :lmao:

I was just getting ready to ask if I could come see it on the dyno but he said they have to haul it down to San Leandro because Watson's dyno ONLY handles 1000 ft lbs. Dammit.

That should make 1600+ hp he said.

GregWeld 02-07-2013 04:29 PM

Okay --- you can just skip the dyno and head straight over to Brizio and check on my build.


When was the last time you crossed the bridge now that you've been domesticated..... :warning: :lol:

Flash68 02-07-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 463158)
Okay --- you can just skip the dyno and head straight over to Brizio and check on my build.


When was the last time you crossed the bridge now that you've been domesticated..... :warning: :lol:

I do need to get over the see that POS. Hope it's better than that last piece that SAR did. :lmao:

We hit Oakland a lot now for date nights but still manage to get to the city occasionally... heck, it's only 15 minutes from us!

fleet 02-07-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463145)
making progress..... but I am in line behind this thing... 781 cubic inch. :guns:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps2868ec80.jpg

Greg,

That motor reminded me of your pic below and your comment..."I feel so insignificant."

:lol:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...psba78c867.jpg

intocarss 02-07-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463145)
making progress..... but I am in line behind this thing... 781 cubic inch. :guns:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps2868ec80.jpg

I am back in the queue early next week Mike says. :thumbsup:

Makes ya feel inadequate don't it :peepwall:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 463148)
Exact same CI that my Freightliner has! OMG!! I almost passed out when I saw this bad boy... Nothing better than a big azz motor on a dyno. Bet she shakes the whole building. Ya gotta be there when they run it and post video!!!!

We dyno'd some big cubic inch engs and well... you just have to be there to know the feeling.:thumbsup:

Richio1 02-10-2013 10:00 PM

Diggin the rendering Dave. As you said, sure helps in visualizing the final outcome. Looking forward to seeing it come together soon. :thumbsup:

Flash68 02-10-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Richio1 (Post 463918)
Diggin the rendering Dave. As you said, sure helps in visualizing the final outcome. Looking forward to seeing it come together soon. :thumbsup:

Thanks!

Had a great weekend. Went to the NASA event at Sonoma Raceway (formerly Sears Point/Infineon -- Happy, Greg?) and hung out with the Life's Good Racing team who field an awesomely quick 69 Camaro that is well known around here. Got some great ideas from that car and talked with the team quite a bit. The car is relatively simple other than the Lateral Dynamics 3 link in there.

Then today Rich and I pulled all the suspension out and got it on the body cart he put together.

Gotta take a step back to take 2 steps forward. Or something like that. :headscratch:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psdef87bc7.jpg

Should have some updates this week on engine, and should take delivery of the floater rear and spoilers from Jake.

fleet 02-10-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 463923)
Thanks!

Had a great weekend. Went to the NASA event at Sonoma Raceway (formerly Sears Point/Infineon -- Happy, Greg?) and hung out with the Life's Good Racing team who field an awesomely quick 69 Camaro that is well known around here. Got some great ideas from that car and talked with the team quite a bit. The car is relatively simple other than the Lateral Dynamics 3 link in there.




Jake Blues: "Car's got a lot of pickup."

Track Junky 02-11-2013 07:03 AM

Hey, if your going to get rid of your old rear spoiler let me know.....I dont want to cut my original one up.

Flash68 02-15-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 463925)


Jake Blues: "Car's got a lot of pickup."

Yes, yes it does. :D

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 463942)
Hey, if your going to get rid of your old rear spoiler let me know.....I dont want to cut my original one up.

It's yours buddy. :thumbsup:

Flash68 02-15-2013 01:06 AM

Received another NASCAR part today... :unibrow: Somewhat experimental (for me, not the part itself). I have always wanted to try a locker and now I will do so. Who knows, I may really like it. If not, I'll swap in a Tru Trac.

This is a Roush Yates Detroit Locker Cup Car take out.

Nodular case
3.25 big bearing
Daytona pinion support
3.64 gear ratio (the ratio I was looking for)
Gears REM polished
Gears scalloped/lightened
G-Force internal pump
1350 billet yoke

All this for under $1000 shipped to my door. And looks to be in excellent condition.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...pse8e6f374.jpg

This 3.64 rear with my T101A trans will put me around 67-70mph top speed in 1st gear and 150-160 mph in 4th, depending on final redline of motor (figuring 7200-7500).

Also, the Fab53 "Chain Saw" tow hook was a little worn and has been blasted and will be cleared before reinstall.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psa1070379.jpg

Got a pallet on its way from Jake.... pretty stoked for what's coming. :thumbsup:

Track Junky 02-15-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 464774)
It's yours buddy. :thumbsup:

:thankyou:

Hope that locker works out for you :thumbsup:

Cris@JCG 02-15-2013 07:38 AM

I think you did good with the buy on this third member.. If locker does not work then you can swap posi unit... I have one of these units on order..

[QUOTE=Flash68;464775]Received another NASCAR part today... :unibrow: Somewhat experimental (for me, not the part itself). I have always wanted to try a locker and now I will do so. Who knows, I may really like it. If not, I'll swap in a Tru Trac.

This is a Roush Yates Detroit Locker Cup Car take out.

Nodular case
3.25 big bearing
Daytona pinion support
3.64 gear ratio (the ratio I was looking for)
Gears REM polished
Gears scalloped/lightened
G-Force internal pump
1350 billet yoke

All this for under $1000 shipped to my door. And looks to be in excellent condition.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...pse8e6f374.jpg

This 3.64 rear with my T101A trans will put me around 67-70mph top speed in 1st gear and 150-160 mph in 4th, depending on final redline of motor (figuring 7200-7500).

Sieg 02-15-2013 08:01 AM

Dave - What are the performance traits of the Locker that could be a negative in your application?


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