Jon - I know this has already been said but, "WELL SAID"

Had you not already earned my respect two year ago when I bought 2 Nitto NT05's from you, you certainly did with your post(s). I wish you well in your new wheel manufacturing venture - you have moved your business to the top of a very short list of vendors I would even consider buying from when the time comes for new wheels.

THANK YOU!!

With some of the stuff from summit and jegs the parts get shipped from the actual company... I was looking at some fesler stuff on summit and the ship date was a week later.... Bought it straight from fesler and it shipped in 36 hours. I've had that with ARP stuff too... So Summit doesnt stock everything they sell... Sometimes they are just the middle man

But most of my summit stuff shows up in 24-36 hours... Can't beat that

Jegs does carry Subframes and Torque arms, and headers. but don't think they are giving it away. it is priced at retail, they have the price list and they stick to it. why is that?
Why would the guy who is the biggest, has THE MOST SALES sell it for the most money??? isn't that opposite of what we are talking about here. do you think they make money on the products they sell.
Do people buy from them? and PAY MORE, WHAT???
oh but don't expect to call up and get TECH advise. Price Quality Service Pick 2
Who woud benifet if everyone did that? Everyone would.
just sayin.

I know, I know....:D

You have a rock solid reputation for delivering on time and you make so much money that you could care less if you sell another part.:unibrow:

???? is this to me ??? maybe i'm missing something

I can directly relate to Jon's frustrations, I've got competitors selling at a loss in order to get their foot in the door on long-term contracts. Pick any industry you want...this is just business in today's world. I can service my customers until I'm blue in the face and, at the end of the day, they procure through a vendor-neutral process based on cost and ability to meet requirements. In some cases, they don't even know who the vendor is because of the internal process they are required to follow. But the winning combination is still client service/relationships and the ability to repeatedly deliver on-time and with quality at a competitive price point via whatever mechanism the client desires. The days of an easy, non-competitive sale at huge margins are over. There's a time and a place to sell at little or no margin if it makes sense stategically, but at this stage you're swimming with the sharks so you better be prepared to swim.

Talking about Jegs. They have enough business where they don't need to discount.

Got it .
But don't you think it is interesting that if they don't discount, they make the most margin, , have the parts in stock (most of the time) and have the most customers then become the biggest.

i just searched summit. 1969 camaro subframe.
All I got was a factory replacement AMD subframe $899 retail its $999
Ships today!

How can the AMD dealers compete with that? I don't think you can unless you stock inventory.

On thing that strikes me when this type of topic comes up...we are all alittle hypocritical.....

We ALL buy stuff online....ebay, amazon, craigslist
We ALL shop at the big box stores like Target, Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes
We ALL eat at the chain restaurants like Applebees, Olive Garden, Pizza Hut
We all buy stuff from Summit and Jegs, Tire Rack, Enco, Grainger etc etc....

We dont go to the local "mom and pop" hardware store (when they used to exist) even when the service was way way better...but the prices were alittle higher...

We dont go to the local owned restaurant even when the food and service are better...

We go to Dominos or Little Ceasar's pizza since they have 2 for 1 deals...even when the pizza sucks compared to the local "no name" pizza joint...

We go to Taco Bell to get 99 cent tacos rather than to the local mexican restaurant

We go to the cheapest gas stations even though the place is a dump, the pumps suck and the bathrooms should be condemned

We are ALL guilty of eroding the sense of looking for the value in an item or service rather than just the price....we are all guilty of locking in on the price as the most important in 9 out of 10 situations

Its not until it affects our profession or has a direct impact on our own ability to make a living that we get pissed off.... me included