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Van B 03-04-2012 01:46 PM

Thanks for posting Danny. Pick almost any forum board and its members can get defensive and elitist at times. There has been many a debate about this event and others like it in the past. Should new cars be allowed, etc.

Bottom line is that the organizers run their event the way they see fit and the rest will armchair quarterback it to death. Those that won their way in deserve an enormous amount of respect as it is a huge accomplishment.

Bucketlist2012 03-04-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Van B (Post 399418)
Thanks for posting Danny. Pick almost any forum board and its members can get defensive and elitist at times. There has been many a debate about this event and others like it in the past. Should new cars be allowed, etc.

Bottom line is that the organizers run their event the way they see fit and the rest will armchair quarterback it to death. Those that won their way in deserve an enormous amount of respect as it is a huge accomplishment.

Thanks for clearing things up...I have said many stupid things in my Days, and probably will again...

Congrats on the Win..:cheers:

fleet 03-04-2012 05:41 PM

This thread is losing its ugly tone. :mad:



:lol:

GregWeld 03-04-2012 05:59 PM

Personally -- I think there's too much emphasis on "winning"... OUSCI is a fantastic FUN event for anyone that gets lucky enough to get to run it - gets to watch it - or gets to work it. Let's just get back to having fun and enjoying watching ALL the cars and ALL the drivers.

I've yet to watch a single run that I didn't enjoy... Every one of them is kool on their own merit. Old car big horsepower - new car no horsepower... amateur drivers - pros and near pros... all are spectacular.

I was looking at the NAME of the event again.... and couldn't find where it said "ultimate NEW car invitational"... or "ultimate OLD car invitational"... or even "ultimate car with or without windows invitational"... I think it just says Ultimate Street Car Invitational.... To me - it's the INVITATIONAL that kinda sums it up.

I'd sure like to get an invite... I'd be happy as hell to embarrass myself!

:D

Sieg 03-04-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RAFTRACER (Post 399413)
Anyhow, I did not come on here to create a war. Just to clear up some misconceptions and apologize publicly for the off-handed comment that I made on the corvetteforum about the "autograph". Again, sorry Mark and all on this board.

Thanks for standing up and being credible. :thumbsup:

And congratulations on your victory it was damn good driving no matter what the vehicle. It was also an impressive thrash to change out the master cylinder. :cheers:

coolwelder62 03-04-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 399453)
Personally -- I think there's too much emphasis on "winning"... OUSCI is a fantastic FUN event for anyone that gets lucky enough to get to run it - gets to watch it - or gets to work it. Let's just get back to having fun and enjoying watching ALL the cars and ALL the drivers.

I've yet to watch a single run that I didn't enjoy... Every one of them is kool on their own merit. Old car big horsepower - new car no horsepower... amateur drivers - pros and near pros... all are spectacular.

I was looking at the NAME of the event again.... and couldn't find where it said "ultimate NEW car invitational"... or "ultimate OLD car invitational"... or even "ultimate car with or without windows invitational"... I think it just says Ultimate Street Car Invitational.... To me - it's the INVITATIONAL that kinda sums it up.

I'd sure like to get an invite... I'd be happy as hell to embarrass myself!

:D

:thumbsup: VERY WELL SAID.:thumbsup: I had a frickin awesome time when I was there.Can't wait to have a chance to go back.:thumbsup:

BonzoHansen 03-04-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 399415)
...and at some point it will be owner as the driver only. But for now those are the rules and he won fair and square.

I'm not sure that will happen, sponsors and all. But maybe.

Ultimate Street Car Invitational - I agree, I don't see old there. There may be some entries that were more race car than street car, but I digress.

I just know I enjoyed the hell out of being there & watching! Watching Danny, Mark, Mary and others do their things was great.


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Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 399323)
I still think late model Camaro and Mustang guys are worse, on average. I know you spent some quality time making friends with the Camaro 5 guys on the way to Arizona. On my Mustang I have tinted windows... because I'm almost embarrassed to be seen :lol:

Matt

Certain vette and Porsche guys can be quite, um, unique. New Camaro enthusiast owners I have run into seem to have a simialr, um, uniqueness. lol

DFRESH 03-04-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RAFTRACER (Post 399413)
Oh NO !! The Corvette guy has stopped lurking and joined this board.....:)

I think there are some misconceptions here and people harping on one single comment, that I should not have made. Awful easy to take things out of context , try looking at page one of the thread on corvetteforum also.

Yes, I got "rich by winning the lottery" , and fielded a C6 Corvette at this years OUSCI, and I guess that I am guilty because we won with a "new" car. Nevermind any of the other new cars there this year, or that have competed in years past. Last I remember, this is not a Pro-Touring event, but a search for the Ultimate Street Car. I have watched this event as said for several years before I earned my invite. This was a privateer entry too, not some "in house" car or manufacturer car. With way less resources than some of the other top 10 cars.

Some of you have judged without knowing anything other than hearsay, and because I fielded a new car this year, I supposedly have no love for the older cars . Those that have cast stones do not know me very well. I am in FACT a lover of all cars, especially Chevrolet's, NEW and OLD. I cut my teeth in OLD GM products , C2's,C3's and 2nd gen Camaros. I still have the 1972 LT-1 Corvette and it will be making venues later this year. Brian Hobaugh remembers the car and knows that it is not slow. This Pro-Touring movement gives me an excuse to play with that car too and it will be a great time.

While I did make an off-handed comment , about the "autograph" on the side of Mark's car, I did not disrespect the fact that his car is an AMAZING piece, it is very well sorted, FAST , beautiful, well engineered and driven. I just thought the "autograph" was slightly grandious. I should not have said what I did, and for that I am sorry. Mark is a very worthy competitor, a great champion and is very worthy of all of his followers. I admire his creations myself and I am sure that I will continue to do so. With that said, Brian, Mary, Mike, also have built awesome cars as well as the other 90% of the cars that were at the OUSCI.

It seems as if some here are operating with chips on their shoulder because they run "old" cars and sometimes they let "new" cars run with them and then the old cars are at a distinct disadvantage. Well, I can tell you that mentality is not completely true. If any of you care to read page one of the above mentioned corvetteforum thread, I ran a bunch of the top pro-touring cars in July for the Chevy Hi-Performance Magazine shootout, and I was faster in three of the Pro-Touring cars than I was in Todd's Corvette. Testiments to the potential of some of these builds. I will agree that on a roadcourse the newer cars will enjoy an aero advantage, but that is it. No one with any of these builds is limited with suspension geometry, power, or technological advances such as ABS or TC. As the years progress the more mainstream this is going to become.

Anyhow, I did not come on here to create a war. Just to clear up some misconceptions and apologize publicly for the off-handed comment that I made on the corvetteforum about the "autograph". Again, sorry Mark and all on this board.


Danny, you are welcome here anytime! There are lots of us that would enjoy having you around our events so that we could learn and watch---plus, we would love to squeeze as much info out of you as possible about going faster in our cars. We don't get a ton of Pro Drivers coming through here--so please stick around and chime in!

D

tazzz2_ca 03-04-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tazzz2_ca (Post 399386)
Hum I'm guessing a cab after all those super light shoes help them get traction while running after it LOL,,,,, oh wait Dr. D,,, was that the tall one bending over to pick up a lost bus token LOL....
^5 buddy the sawed off little pricks needed a little reality check anyways (no pun intended LOL).....

Danny hit the nail on the head and I was attempting to highlight this whole new, old, super competitive spirit between the cars in some ways.... The Vette is a cool car that is a Hell of a bang for the buck,,,, but hey I can't say I'd own one based on my own car preferences.... The guys at the show were showing a higher then thou closed mind that maybe we're all guilty of here and there (they just took it a bit further and our own good Dr. D set them straight)...

Danny, congrats again on the victory you're an incredible driver and show a ton of class setting things straight....

Greg you summed things up Dam near perfectly in what you stated,,, """just to be there is the best part of the experience""", the rest sorts it's self out and is forgotten long before you ever will forget that day.....

Flash68 03-04-2012 09:08 PM

Danny, thanks for stopping by. I think you'll find this is one of the best forums around and people here have more respect for each other and differing opinions than anywhere else. Hopefully you'll stick around.

I knew this thread would have a happy ending when I started it. :D


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