Terry, is the driver super tall? The main hoop is pretty far rearward compared to many others in 1st Gen Camaros.

Curious to hear your thoughts.

Dave,

By no means am I capable of Mr. Fair's professional thoughts, but that main hoop position is most likely a result of the engine setback--everything must go back when the engine enters the cockpit. Otherwise, that main hoop becomes more of a set of headphones . . .

Well, yes, that is already baked into the assumption. :)

But these pics do not show much of an extreme engine setback, and that's why I am wondering. I am sure there is reasoning, just curious.

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Doesn't seem to be from this pic(?).

https://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Custome...61G0226-X3.jpg

Looking at it, it almost appears that they were trying to make the cage not visible from the outside of the car. Which is pretty cool, but I always thought the main hoop was supposed to be within 4 " of your helmet. The cage in my cars aren't really legal, they were built more for function as well as ease of entering the car, and accessibility due to its semi-street car nature.

The engine doesn't look pushed back so far that it would warrant moving the main hoop back that far. The build is awesome, love everyone's different approach to the same problems we all face. Packaging and function is hard to overcome on these old cars, but it appears to be working out pretty well on this one. Keep the pics coming, fun to watch.

This looks like the motor is set back pretty far to me....
https://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Custome...S/B61G1051.jpg

The engine is back for sure, about the same as mine, but not enough to warrant the hoop being put that far back. I think aesthetics had a lot to do with it, but don' t know for sure. I'm sure there was a good reason in the design process that put it where it is.

Again, I'm not ripping it, cage work is top notch, just admiring the different approach to the same problem.


https://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Cars/...0%282%29-L.jpg

https://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Cars/...0%282%29-L.jpg

Everything is relative here: The driver's shoulders (when seated) are at or behind the B-pillar line (vertical). The floor-mounted pedals are in line with the front edge of the door opening (way back from stock); they are also positioned to be behind the vertical line of the frame for the firewall (I'll be stealing some of these features for myself), which is just behind the heads/bellhousing flange. With the seat layback angle, there are still probably at least four to six inches between headrest top and cage main hoop, but all that space (and positioning) is needed . . .

This kind of planning and plotting definitely shows how it's worth paying this shop to do the job!

An earlier post stated that SEAT set back is 18", to mimic ENGINE set back.

This is one of the most detailed and profound builds that I've ever followed. Outstanding work guys! I'm thoroughly enjoying this one!