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FETorino 08-05-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 428782)
very cute dry sump tank! new wheel choice i think is the best choice for this style of car just has that built for speed look.

I love the GT40 wheel look I just need to find a quality version of it I can afford in 19x10 and 20x12.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...wheels_016.jpg

Yep an ALMS tank, it should be a good match for my pan and pump.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ca/dailey3.jpg

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 428786)
Looks like ya got 'sumpthin tasty for that big badd Ford. :cool:

I can't walk into my spare room without tripping over parts for my FE.:D

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nca/RSTfly.jpg

badmatt 08-05-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 428793)

Yep an ALMS tank, it should be a good match for my pan and pump.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ca/dailey3.jpg



I need so step my game up..

Matty'

Flash68 08-06-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 428793)

Yep an ALMS tank, it should be a good match for my pan and pump.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ca/dailey3.jpg


Dang is that thing shallow or what? Looks sweet. :woot:

I remember looking into the reason behind having the dividers in there.... but I don't recall. ?

badmatt 08-07-2012 06:14 AM

Rob, Are you sure about going the SV1 route? there still fairly new to the market and i believe still in the development stage.

why not a "standard" 4500 series from Braswell or BLP?

Matt

Ron in SoCal 08-07-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 429091)
Dang is that thing shallow or what? Looks sweet. :woot:

I remember looking into the reason behind having the dividers in there.... but I don't recall. ?

Dividers align w the crank to minimize oil splash and act as a standard baffle would. Shallow design helps w scavenging...:thumbsup:

67XR7 08-07-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 428277)
Its still the RS :thumbsup: plugging away. When the quality of work drops off then you know I'm on it.:rofl:

:rofl:

Flash68 08-07-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 429122)
Dividers align w the crank to minimize oil splash and act as a standard baffle would. Shallow design helps w scavenging...:thumbsup:

I just remember when telling one of the well known oil pan makers about my application they said to not use those big dividers. Those were intended for high speed Nascar oval track applications or something like that.

Are you saying shallow is preferred? That's not my understanding but could be wrong. I always thought shallow was simply for clearance reasons.

Ron in SoCal 08-07-2012 09:59 AM

Not sure but that looks like the Dailey set up? RobFE will jump in soon enough. :unibrow: Every vendor takes a different approach along w the pump pick up design. Rob's pan looks similar to what ARE sells for LS motors and that's where my comment came from.

FETorino 08-07-2012 10:33 PM

More progress

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ca/rstrunk.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 429110)
Rob, Are you sure about going the SV1 route? there still fairly new to the market and i believe still in the development stage.

why not a "standard" 4500 series from Braswell or BLP?

Matt

Matt

I already have a Holley list 8082 1050 2circuit Dominator and a set of Quickfuel metering blocks with replaceable emulsion jets so that is what I will start with.

The SV1 has been out for a while and is a proven product. I had contacted Prosystems and he recommended a 1050 and maybe an SV1 depending on a complete set of engine specs. Maybe in the future.


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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 429134)
I just remember when telling one of the well known oil pan makers about my application they said to not use those big dividers. Those were intended for high speed Nascar oval track applications or something like that.

Are you saying shallow is preferred? That's not my understanding but could be wrong. I always thought shallow was simply for clearance reasons.

Remember and FE and the copycat LS have deep skirted blocks and crossbolts. A shallow pan on an FE is a deeper pan on a SBC like yours. With regards to pan design you have to trust the guy building the pan knows what he is doing or choose another manufacturer. Bill builds his billet pans to scavenge oil efficiently and create crankcase vacuum. There is no need for a deep pan if the design is efficient and the pump is fed. You don't want oil in the pan you want it recirculated to the bearing surfaces.

FETorino 08-09-2012 08:29 PM

Back on the oiling subject. I plan on running a radiator with heat exchanger in it for my oil cooling. To do this I picked up the following trinket. R C&R filter diverter combo valve. This will let me regulate the level of oil cooling based on need. The oil needs to be 215 deg to prevent moisture buildup but no reason to run much above that. When I get the car back home I'll start laying out the plumbing figure out who is going to build the radiator for me and determine the radiator dimensions.

The scavenging out and pressure in fittings on my pump are AN16 as is the, in and return, on my tank. My pressure out on the pump is AN12 as is the fittings on this remote filter bypass valve combo. I think I may also run an Oberg style filter in the line from the pump to the tank.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nca/filter.jpg

Ron in SoCal 08-09-2012 08:34 PM

^ Sheet that's sweet! 'bout time this thread got rolling :D :thumbsup:

fleet 08-09-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 429653)
^ Sheet that's sweet! 'bout time this thread got rolling :D :thumbsup:

Nice Rob. :thumbsup:

When this build is all said and done you might outRon 'The Roninator' :wow:



:woot:

badmatt 08-10-2012 12:00 AM

You get all the cool stuff man!

I wish I was that baller. :(

Matt

Ron in SoCal 08-10-2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 429684)
Nice Rob. :thumbsup:

When this build is all said and done you might outRon 'The Roninator' :wow:

:woot:

With that ALMS tank he already did...:lol:

fleet 08-10-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 429715)
With that ALMS tank he already did...:lol:

Yeahbutt...your newest, bestest buddy and big toe Brett the Jet is running on a full tank of 110!


:lol:

FETorino 08-10-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 429684)
Nice Rob. :thumbsup:

When this build is all said and done you might outRon 'The Roninator' :wow:



:woot:

No chance of that, a lot of my stuff is second hand. Look there are a couple scratches on my C&R valve that part would be rejected by QC before making it on Ron's car.:yes:

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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 429692)
You get all the cool stuff man!

I wish I was that baller. :(

Matt

:rofl: :rofl: And how much was your intake set up? I wish I was that baller :rolleyes: I read somewhere you were sitting on some top dollar parts.

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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 429698)
418 @ .900

Heads that flow that aren't given away. :cool:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 429653)
^ Sheet that's sweet! 'bout time this thread got rolling :D :thumbsup:


Thanks Ron. Like I said I wish I was on the home stretch like you are and I still have parts envy. My RST doesn't have a gold ring :wow: WTF how is it all your parts are more bling, even when they are the same thing? :D

:cheers:

Flash68 08-10-2012 10:44 PM

Love that C&R piece... I see those when I do my weekly "nascar sbc" or similar search on ebay and always wanted to implement that somehow. You done good. :woot:

badmatt 08-10-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 429867)
Heads that flow that aren't given away. :cool:

:_paranoid

I know some people that know some people that robbed some people.

a lot of my stuff is used too! best way to look at it if its good enough for nascar its gotta be good for my little street truck deal, right?

Matt

FETorino 08-10-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 429905)
:_paranoid

I know some people that know some people that robbed some people.

Like I said I wish I was that baller.

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 429905)
a lot of my stuff is used too! best way to look at it if its good enough for nascar its gotta be good for my little street truck deal, right?

Matt

Except if it's a floater then you need a hybrid with C6 parts or you're doomed. :willy:

Bummer is moving forward there aren't many parts I need I am likely to score a deal on so my build will likely slow a bit. I still have a big, big parts, shoping list.

Tremec T56 Magnum close ratio
Tilton Hydro throwout bearing
Custom driveshaft and some other small parts for the trans.
Wheels (probably Forgelines) and Michelins Geeze I need to find a $$ tree for those :wow:
Custom Radiator sized right with heat exchanger
A bunch of high $$ 16an and12an fittings and oil lines.
Shocks for my chassis Ride tech or JRI
A set of 6 piston 14" Willwoods for my front to match up with my rear set up.
Seats :faint:

Yea I know a lot more little nickel and dime stuff just to get it on the track and ugly. Then I have to start saving for Paint and interior.


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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 429902)
Love that C&R piece... I see those when I do my weekly "nascar sbc" or similar search on ebay and always wanted to implement that somehow. You done good. :woot:


I like the idea of a packaged cooling system. The ability to control the amount of cooling is needed and the C&R part will get that done. + I needed a remote oil filter anyway and the price was right. :unibrow:

FETorino 08-11-2012 01:54 PM

Somebody got some work done on my car this week. :thumbsup: I just ordered the parts :(

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...jinca/ATL1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...jinca/ATL2.jpg

Flash68 08-11-2012 01:55 PM

The new Pro Touring gas tank... love it. :thumbsup:

badmatt 08-11-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 430007)
The new Pro Touring gas tank... love it. :thumbsup:

The ONLY protouring gas tank!

Matt.

FETorino 08-11-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 430007)
The new Pro Touring gas tank... love it. :thumbsup:

I didn't even know there was another choice :D

They work, they are safe and a fuel cell fits my theme of homage to the 68/69 Nascar road race car.


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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 430008)
The ONLY protouring gas tank!

Matt.

ONLY :thumbsup: :rofl:

:cheers:

badmatt 08-11-2012 03:00 PM

Plumb a dry break style filler into the quarter panel?

Cause if I had quarter panels id so do it..

FETorino 08-11-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 430019)
Plumb a dry break style filler into the quarter panel?

Cause if I had quarter panels id so do it..

Maybe right in the middle of the tail panel under the stock trim. Hey I have lots of time once I get it drive-able to make the final finishing touch decisions.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...adetorino7.jpg

Rick D 08-11-2012 05:50 PM

I love that idea Rob look mostly stock and carry a big tank or a stick!! By the way where did you get the tank from? I have been thinking of using one in my build? :thumbsup: So how long before it goes back west?

Flash68 08-11-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 430018)
I didn't even know there was another choice :D

Well... Fuel Safe is another good choice. :unibrow:

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 430019)
Plumb a dry break style filler into the quarter panel?

:thumbsup:

FETorino 08-11-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 430040)
I love that idea Rob look mostly stock and carry a big tank or a stick!! By the way where did you get the tank from? I have been thinking of using one in my build? :thumbsup: So how long before it goes back west?


Rick

I looked around and these guys seemed to have the best price and have them in stock. (not the AL can though)

http://pitstopusa.com/i-5064660-atl-...22-gallon.html

I wanted to get the AL ATL offers but in the end the extra $$ wasn't worth saving the 4-5 lbs.

INTMD8 08-18-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 429908)
Bummer is moving forward there aren't many parts I need I am likely to score a deal on so my build will likely slow a bit. I still have a big, big parts, shoping list.

Sounds like we're on the same program! I haven't even wrote a list of what I need to finish because it's easier to not know the reality of it :D

FETorino 08-19-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 431316)
Sounds like we're on the same program! I haven't even wrote a list of what I need to finish because it's easier to not know the reality of it :D

Don't do it. :( Just keep living the dream that you've spent the majority of the $$ needed to finish. :faint:

I saw your post about EVOD and tires so you're one Big parts purchase ahead of me. :rofl:

SOme progress is being made.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nca/floor3.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nca/floor2.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nca/floor4.jpg

INTMD8 08-19-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 431350)
Don't do it. :( Just keep living the dream that you've spent the majority of the $$ needed to finish. :faint:

Looking nice!

I know I'm nowhere close to spending what I need to finish, just figuring that if I keep collecting parts and working on it here and there it should get finished some day.

Matt@BOS 08-19-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 431357)
Looking nice!

I know I'm nowhere close to spending what I need to finish, just figuring that if I keep collecting parts and working on it here and there it should get finished some day.

That's what most of us say, however, after months of "spending responsibly," and buying a little bit here, and a little there, eventually you will cave and start doing whatever you can to get it done. Then you will get it done and spend the next three to six months wondering how your car could consume so much money in so short a period of time, :willy:

Rob, the transmission tunnel is looking good. Are you going to have the Roadster Shop put a 4pt, or similar, cage in the car while it is over there?

Matt

FETorino 08-19-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 431361)
Rob, the transmission tunnel is looking good. Are you going to have the Roadster Shop put a 4pt, or similar, cage in the car while it is over there?

Matt

I'm still up in the air on the cage decision. I know it will have a 4/5pt cage for sure but maybe more. I'm heading out to check out the car in person and wrap up with RS. Cage is on the list of things to talk about but it isn't a critical path item on my project yet.

badmatt 08-19-2012 04:51 PM

I vote full cage... but thats me. :yes:

Im personally doin just a 6pt bar in mine.

INTMD8 08-19-2012 05:58 PM

I prefer 6pt over a full cage on a car that will be driven on the street. Wouldn't want to bean your melon on a roll bar tube with no helmet (even with padding).

Or you could just drive around wearing a helmet all the time like the Stig :thumbsup:

waynieZ 08-19-2012 09:08 PM

Looking good Rob.

67zo6Camaro 08-21-2012 10:56 PM

Nice panel work. Custom RS stuff or someones patch panels? Can't wait for this thing to make it's way home so I can see it in person.:)

Ripped 08-22-2012 11:16 AM

Looks good, but I'd advise you to padlock your engine for now. I hear that the FE's go missing these days :lol:

FETorino 08-22-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripped (Post 431862)
Looks good, but I'd advise you to padlock your engine for now. I hear that the FE's go missing these days :lol:

Thanks :_paranoid Hmm I may have bought the parts but until it get's off the dyno in one piece it belongs to Blair. I hear the guys in that part of the country re trigger happy. :D I know you need a new block but find your own. :lol: I know somebody who has, or had, a Pond for sale.


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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 431795)
Nice panel work. Custom RS stuff or someones patch panels? Can't wait for this thing to make it's way home so I can see it in person.:)

The floor pans were patch panels. It won't be home soon enough. :yes:

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 431416)
Looking good Rob.

Thanks Wayne. My buddy is going in for double hip replacement next month so I'm pulling for you both to be 100% :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 431393)
I prefer 6pt over a full cage on a car that will be driven on the street. Wouldn't want to bean your melon on a roll bar tube with no helmet (even with padding).

Or you could just drive around wearing a helmet all the time like the Stig :thumbsup:

My heads pretty hard so maybe it doesn't matter. I may be the Stig's American vegetarian cousin.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l.../Greenstig.png

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Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 431388)
I vote full cage... but thats me. :yes:

Im personally doin just a 6pt bar in mine.

Yea but you're BadMatt and BadMatt is just plain crazy racer boy lunatic fringe who listens to him. He runs a fuel cell as a gas tank, a fuel cell in a PT car and he runs an SB2 what a nut :D

:cheers:


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