That is awsome. I can't wait to see it complete :thumbsup: .

David

Hi RR,

I thought the quadraduece was built completely by RadRides. Am I mistaken on this one?

As I recall, Stielow built the car for Summit when he worked for them. Troy refreshed the car a few years back.

i concur because i helped summit / some magazine editor source the drivetrain for the first version.

http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=8567%22

Hi All,

I am in desperate need of 65 fastback front and rear NOS window moldings.

Anyone have a clue??? I am getting desperate.

If I did not say it already, I am a bit desperate. :-)

Bob

I order all my Ford NOS from these guys.

www.allclassicmustang.com

Hi all,

There is a short article about our build on the V8 TV website.

http://v8tv.truckworld.com/tenartic...aid=2455&sid=96

I got a kick out of this comment "We had to see it to believe it. Bob and Wayne Julian are a special breed of car builders... meticulous, creative, enthusiastic... and maybe a little crazy!"

Hi All,

New update at the site.

Also, Forgeline heard we were having wheel fitment issues and have decided to help us out with a cusom set of their 3 piece competition wheels. I just sent them off the dimensional data and they are going to create a wheel that has the proper offsets and backspacing. The neet thing is that I will be able to use the SVT centers on the new rims.

Bob

if you want to borrow the wheel backspacing tool i can drop it off at Dave's on Friday. It hit my wheels dead on.

Hi Marty,

Thank you very much for the offer, but after checking all the dim's on all 4 wheels, we are pretty sure we have it just right.

I was very impresses. When we checked the front and rear spacing from side to side the measurements were identical. Not only that, but the front spacing was the same at all four corners.

I know Wayne was being a bit anal about the bodywork, but I would have expected to see some variation in the alignment of the body to the chassis. Right now there is no measureable difference, at least as far as a tape measure can tell. :-)

Your Welcome - that's very cool on the measurements. I amy try to stop by in the next couple weeks

Hi All,

This weekend we had the SN65's suspension dialed in. The car has been set up with 1.75 negative camber up front and .5 negative in the rear. Caster has been set to 7.5 positive front. The toe has been set to .125 out at the front and 1.25 in at the rear. Front to rear weight distribution is 55.5% front to 44.5% rear. Weight distribution from front left to rear right and from front right to rear left is exactly 50%. Total weight of the car is currently 3,552 lbs.

The tech that set up the car said that it should perform very well on any road course. He also said that he was very impressed with the accuracy of the front clip fabrication. When he was finished with the front end adjustments, the caster camber plates were, for all intents and purposes, mirror images of each other. He also said that it is very impressive that the car ended up with a 50/50 weight distribution from corner to corner.

He also made comment on the chassis overall stiffness. He saw no subframe connectors, or any other stiffening members, and wanted to know how we got the chassis so stiff. From his jacking the car up and down, adjusting the coil over setup, etc. he felt that this was one of, if not the most, rigid platforms he had ever worked on. We explained what we had done and asked what he thought of the results. He said che was vey impressed and that the results will speek for themselves once we got some track time.

He also said that the car was lighter than he would have imagined. All of the structure we added, the stereo system, the soundproofing, the heavy all steel hood, etc. should have made the car heavier than the original Cobra and yet we were about 130 lbs lighter. I told him that I was a bit disapointed in that I was shooting for somewhere in the 3,200 to 3,300 lbs range.

Catch ya'll l8r

Hi All,

This post really has nothing to do with the SN65 project, but…..

My brother just got word that State Farm is revising their authorized shop programs. They are consolidating all their programs into one and eliminating all shops that do not complete a specific number of repairs per month.

According to them, we are under the number required. From what I understand, the only shops that can qualify are those with multiple facilities.

Their decision has nothing to do with the quality of the work performed. Their decision has nothing to do with customer satisfaction. And while they will not come out and say it, their decision is based on cost and cost alone.

Also, they are “steering” business to the shops that will perform the repairs in the fastest, least expensive manner possible.

For those who don’t know “steering” is when you (as the customer) tell them that you want your car repaired by a specific shop but they tell you that your repair will not be covered unless you take it to an “authorized” facility. This of course is a load of crap.

I am sorry, but this is really pissing me off. We have worked long and hard to provide our customers with timely, quality repairs. And just because we don’t meet a specific quota, we are kicked out of the program.

So, how is the little guy supposed to get any collision work when the insurance companies are steering business away from small local shops? It is really hard enough to keep a business running without large insurance companies controlling what shop gets the work.

So…. Next time you need your car repaired, think long and hard about the shop you take it to. DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY TAKE IT TO ONE ON THEIR LIST. While I am sure some of the shops do a quality job, you have to remember why they are on the list in the first place. Also, do not be scared off if they tell you that your repair will not be covered. If there is something wrong with your repair all the insurance company does is direct you back to the shop that did the repair.

Bob

PS: So come, one and all, to Julian’s Collision Center. If you live in the Chicagoland area, and are covered by a major carrier, and have your car towed to Julian’s Collision Center for repair, we will cover all charges. We will also offer one and all easy payment terms on your deductible. I am sorry of this post violates any forum bylaws, but I am sick and tired of big business constantly crushing the little guy.

did i tel you how much i dislike insurance company's. I've just spent the last week on the phone try to make sure my truck is covered even though it's only a storage policy.

Also my brother-n-law had Alstate do the same to him. You must take it to one of our preferred '$hithole places and here they are 6 months later and the car still isn't right.

It's just another case of the big guy trying to screw the little guy.

Hi S,

Actually, you CAN take your car to ANY shop you want. They TELL you that they cannot guarantee the repair, but that is a load of crap. It is just their way of scareing the customer into taking the car to a shop that they have negotiated a sweetheart "deal" with.

Also, did you know that Alstate owns a lot of the collision centers that they refer you to. Is that a conflict of interest or what. Their goal (and you have already confirmed it) is to get the car out the door for the least amount of money possible. Are the repairs performed correctly? You tell me. Can you get them to fix it after the fact? Probably not.

So... If you want the car repaired correctly, take it to a shop that does quality work and tell the insurance company to shove their "perfered" shop list up their collective butts.

I would say what they do is a conflict of interest and i could agree more with your closing statement.

Bob, did I read that correctly? You are running 1.25" of toe in on the rear! As in 1 and a 1/4", not a typo like .125" maybe?

Oops...

You are right. Just a typo. .125 is correct.

Although....


Maybe 1.25 may help when backing in and out of small parking spaces at the local White Hen. Seeing as we are going to be pulling this car in and out of tight spaces at the mall and grocery store, maybe we should consider the change. :-)

Hi All,

Josh, of the Daily Herald, is going to write an article about the SN65 project. He asked me if I knew anyone, other than us, he could talk to about the project, I thought of all of you.

So...

I would greatly appreciate it if you would give Josh a call at 630-587-8626 and tell him your honest opinion of the project, good, bad or otherwise.

Thanks Bob

OBTW, He would really like to talk to those who are coming to the open house from outside of IL. Here is your chance for your 15 minutes of fame. :-)

Hi All,

We have run into a little snag on the project pushing the completion date out to the beginning of next week.

So...

We are going to have to reschedule the open house to sometime after the Detroit show (the first weekend of March)

Sorry about the mix up.

That being the case, we will be working on the car this Saturday, so please e-mail me at [email protected] if you wish to stop by and see it in progress. Seeing as we will still be working on the car, we can only allow for a small number of people. For those wishing to stop by we will be able to show the car from 9 to noon.

I am sorry about having to reschedule the get together. We were really looking forward to meeting all of you and showing the finished car.

Bob

shove it
 

:thumbsup:

Holly (@$(&@$&!!!!!!!

I just took the SN65 out for a spin (only around the block) and I am totally blown away. Every fear I had about lackluster acceleration, poor ride quality, misc. rattles, sluggish handling, etc.... has been officially laid to rest.

This car is a real screamer. :-)

When I pulled it out of the shop, I told myself to take it easy. We still have to log about 500 miles before the new clutch setup is fully broke in and I was really concerned over loose nuts and bolts, etc... After all, we did have every last nut and bolt off the car at one point or another.

I eased into the throttle and the car pulled away very smooth and responsive. Slight changes in the throttle gave me a feeling that the car will pull really well. The handling was phenomenal. Going around a couple corners at moderate speeds gave me the feeling that the car was on rails. The cockpit is just tight enough to give you a nice secure feel without being cramped.

The ride quality was a major concern of mine. We eliminated quite a few rubber components and replaced them with Delron and aluminum. I was really afraid that these changes would make the ride overly harsh and noisy, but the ride was surprisingly smooth.

The sound from the exhaust was just perfect. The car produces a nice mellow rumble at idle and a throaty growl under moderate acceleration.

Speaking of "moderate" acceleration. When the car is rolling along at about 35 to 40, if we just pop the throttle up to about 1/5 to 3/4 acceleration, the tires tend to break free. The F1's are a bit worn, but they still have a bit of tread left. I thought they would hold better. I guess the real test will be with the new rims and Toyo's rolling.

I really did not want to bring the car back to the shop. I just wanted to drive off into the sunset. It is the most fun I have had in a car ever, and it only lasted about 3 to 5 minutes. It is going to drive me nuts having this thing sitting here and not being able to drive fit.

I want to drive it to a couple of Ford dealers in the area just for an oil change. I want to drive it to a couple of exotic car dealers and take a few people for a test drive.

Speaking of test drives, I really want to be able to take some of you out for a spin. I wish I could take all of you, but time will not allow. Mark my words. If any of you who have been following this thread, ever come up to me at a car show, and we can arrange for some time on the road, we will do it.

Better yet, when we do the power tour, we will be happy to swap passengers with others on the trip. After all, If you get to ride in our car, we get to ride in yours.

Well, I have to get back to work. We have lots of little details yet to finish before the unveiling at the Autoramma.

Bob

Sounds like a fun ride Bob.

If ever yall are headed down to the deep South, I will definately take you up on that ride.

Now we just need to see a little video of it in action once you get everything broke in good. :thumbsup:

Wow, awesome, Bob! Congrats on making the first voyage in her!

I'd definitely love to get a ride in it.

sounds like a awesome maiden voyage :thumbsup: Pencil me in for a ride and I should be on Hot Rod Power Tour 2006 too. :yes:

I have been following this build and am impressed beyond words. I am thrilled for you. That first ride is the one you don't forget anytime soon. It only gets better from here.

I can't wait to see the final photos.

Congrats man :thumbsup: . I am sure you will enjoy the hell out of it :yes: . It will definitely turn some heads, and probably confuse the Ford dealership :rofl: .

David

Hi All,

We are getting ready to leave for the Autoramma. As we get closser and closser to the deadline, we find ourselves rushing around trying to complete all the final details. The car is finished save one or two final details. It is the cleaning and detailing that has running around right now.

Wish us luck.

Hope to see you at the show.

Full detailes will be posted next week, or durring the show if I have time and we have access to the net.

Bob

Absolutely Phenominal !
 

Amazing! I spent a solid hour checking out the SN65 Project, mostly because I was just simply blown away with the level of craftsmanship and detail of this ultra stellar build! You just simply could not determine where the old met the new, as the execution was just perfectly seemless. When I first saw this project in the members section a while back, I was intrigued by the concept, though honestly didn't give it much thought afterwards. Then lo and behold, I stumbled across the finished masterpiece at the '06 Detroit Autorama last night and found myself just truly amazed! Talented, gifted, supreme mastery of craftsmanship, incredible attention to every possible detail, visionary - these are all the terms that come to mind now when I think of this project!

And here they are! :hail:

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/images/julianbros.jpg

BTW - Two of the nicest guys you'll ever meet too! :thumbsup:

ok...enough with the tease. I wanna see alot more pics of it. :wow:

We NEED MORE PICS!!! :drool:

David

Hi All,

Just enough time to say that there are new photos at the site. I will be posting an update soon.

Bob

Man that car looks great!

Thanks for updating the eye candy over on your site :thumbsup:

Guys this is a quality car me and kenny talked to bob at detroit and went over the car....they did a nice job on it! :thumbsup:

Hi All,

Still working on the website, but.....

I don't know if you are interested or not, but there are a few new additions to the video section. In one of them, you can see Wayne put the car gingerly through its paces. Just remember, he only had about 60 feet to work with and he was taking it easy. He made this video while I was out to lunch. That is the last time I leave him alone with the keys. :-)

Bob

THanks for letting us know about the update. Always cool to see the cars being put to good use. I love seeing them driven. :thumbsup: It was also cool seeing the power windows in action. :)

Hi All,

I think that it is time to sign off on the SN65 project thread. We are all complete, save a few minor items to chase down.

Posting this thread here has been a joy. The help received has been priceless. I cannot thank all of you enough.

I will be posting updates on the SN65 website. Mechanical updates, show schedule, track times, etc...

If you are ever in the Chicago area, I expect you to stop by the shop and say hey. And, I can always be reached via e-mail at [email protected]

http://sn65.com/images/SN65%20Images/06-03-10%20055.jpg

Catch ya'll l8r

Bob

Thanks Bob. It's been a lot of fun following along with the build. It's a kick ass ride. Congrats on the completion. :thumbsup: