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tones2SS 09-30-2009 11:03 AM

Very nice Ned!!
I like the Wilwood Christmas! lol:thumbsup: :cheers:

syborg tt 09-30-2009 12:18 PM

Your welcome and not a problem.

Also sound like your fender may be pushed in. Take a tape and measure from the fenderlip plumb bob to the frame rail and see what you get on both sides.

If that is the case i have the fender lip roller that you can use and instead of rolling the fender lip you can gently flare the fender back out. I did this on the bed of my truck and it worked great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 (Post 237823)
Since thats been all mounted up, I've been trying to measure for wheels....that has been a huge PITA.

I wanted to thank Marty (Syborg) for lending me his Mount Mate to help the job. I borrowed it back in late July (anticipating my brakes would arrive soon) and then we had all the brake delays and its been sitting in my garage unused.... thank you Marty for being so understanding on the delays. I'll have it back to you next week, I promise.....

I dropped a plum bob from the fender lip and measured to the hub on both side and it looks like my fender is about 1/2 inch pushed in on the driver side.
If I do more BS, then the Mount Mate hits the tie-rod at lock...plus I guess 6 BS is the most I can really do on an 8 inch rim anyway....so best I can figure is do the 19x9 with 6.5 BS, have a slighlty larger lip, and fix the driver side fender opening.....

I can go with a shorter hub and hat and move the track width in, but the caliper is the most "outboard" piece, so it wont do anything for my dish....so by doing the shorter hub, all I'm doing is changing the BS reading.... the mount pad gets thicker and the dish stays the same....

So decisions, decisions......


DRJDVM's '69 09-30-2009 02:15 PM

Thanks again Marty..

I've measured from just about every fixed point I can find to the fender lip and they are all about 1/2 off from side to side. If I sight down the fender, I'm pretty sure I can see it bow in just alittle. Plus on the Cuda there is a little flare just over the opening and if I put a straight edge from lip to body line it's pretty perpindicular on the "in" side and angles inward (body line above is inboard). The definition to this small "flare" is not nearly as crisp as on the "good side" either. Both are original fenders, but both have had some damage over the years

So I'm pretty sure its pushed in about 1/2 inch near the opening on the driver side.

DRJDVM's '69 09-30-2009 02:28 PM

Today I started to mess with the rear tires.... I'm using my stock rearend just to get me in the ballpark for BS and see what I have to work with. The plan is to get the rims and tires and then measure and order a custom Dana 60. Right now I just want to see where I stand......
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3933.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3934.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3938.jpg

This is the passenger side lip clearence right now... the tire is alittle crooked in the pix..... I havent done any trimming or rolling of the fender lip yet, but that is the plan for sure. I should be able to move the rim out just a tad more and still have fender clearence and enough space up top to sink the tire up into the wheelwell when its aired out..... I have about 3/4 inch of clearence on the inside right now...so probably move it out about 1/4 inch and I should be perfect.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3936.jpg

syborg tt 09-30-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 (Post 237881)
So I'm pretty sure its pushed in about 1/2 inch near the opening on the driver side.

my suggestion - put the car on the ground an pull hard

Grimmey71 10-01-2009 05:47 PM

have you spoke to bill reilly and asked him about backspacing and rim size?

BRIAN 10-01-2009 06:14 PM

Get yourself a contour gauge to determine if one fender is off from the other. When I do metal work I actually draw almost a graph on identical panels and the use the gauge from one to the other. They will always be off a bit but at least you will know if you are in the ballpark. You can make a quick one time gauge out of a piece of cardboard held perpendicular to the panel and trace the contour onto the cardboard. It takes a few times cutting it out but it works and you can make a couple for each section. Take your time and make them accurate.


Good luck

elitecustombody 10-02-2009 08:38 AM

Ned, if you don't mind me asking,where did you get that wheel/tire tool?I must have one. BTW, great progress on your Cuda, I wish I was at that stage with my 71

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3934.jpg

DRJDVM's '69 10-02-2009 09:01 AM

I actually borrowed it from a fellow Lateral-g member, but you can buy them from
http://www.wheelworksinc.com/mountmate.html

http://www.autowaretech.com/mountmate/

It looks like a great investment if you do alot of wheels and tires etc

Percy's also make a more generic version that doesnt actualy use a real tire.....

http://www.jegs.com/i/Percys/760/01201/10002/-1

elitecustombody 10-02-2009 03:51 PM

Awsome, it's good to have one of theese,I could've used it so many times. Thanks again.

cwylie 10-23-2009 12:25 PM

Is that just the air ride package they sell for the cuda or something completely custom?

nvr2fst 10-23-2009 08:13 PM

Hey Ned,
Hows your exhaust mock up coming along?

Dave

DRJDVM's '69 10-24-2009 11:33 AM

I actually havent messed with the exhaust yet..

Its the Air Ride kit but we cut the brackets down on the rear and channeled the k-frame up front so it will sit about 1.5 inches lower than the standard Air Ride set-up

I ordered my Rushforth wheels this week....lead time is about 6-8 weeks right now but hopefully sooner :) Then I need to get my rearend measured and ordered. I hope to get all the suspension nailed down by the end of the year.

rjsjea 10-24-2009 12:55 PM

Which Rushforth's did you end up going with?

DFRESH 10-24-2009 05:40 PM

Which Rushforth's did you go with Ned? Car looks killer---

Doug

JayR 10-25-2009 10:24 AM

Ned Ordered the Super spokes in 19x8 and 20x12. Thanks for going with Rushforths, Ned!

DRJDVM's '69 10-26-2009 03:56 PM

Thanks guys...

Jason Rushforth has been fantastic to work with... I've been bugging the hell out of him for the last month or so...back and forth emails....me changing my mind....asking alot fo questions etc etc....hes been great through the whole thing....thanks again Jason. I cant wait to get the rims....

I went back and forth on the Super Spoke and Rated X....both are aweseom rims. It was a tough choice and I must have changed my mind 1000x...... just something clicked with me just a tad more on the Super Spoke..... I dont think I could have gone wrong with either one.

DRJDVM's '69 10-26-2009 04:02 PM

Time for some new pix.....

Well it was a Wilwood Xmas again !!!! Last time I just got my hubs, hats, rotors etc..... my caliper came alittle later. They are fricking awesome....and huge !!!! They are the W6A 6 piston with the optional silver color.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3978.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3977.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3975.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3980.jpg

Wilwood still needs to make the caliper mounts for my application on the front. I dont have my Dana 60 yet for the rear, so I cant mount the rear stuff yet since the mock up rearend is way different.

DRJDVM's '69 10-26-2009 04:11 PM

Once I finalized my brake combo I went back to the wheel fitment check...man was that a huge PITA..... I changed hubs and hats a couple of time to get a decent track width and try and get some dish to the rim etc etc....so it was a ton of changing back and forth and measuring over and over. So I'm glad thats over. The rear was much easier since I'm having a rearend made to specs..... the front was much harder since it all turns etc. I only hope I made the right choices with the wheel BS etc...time will tell....

I used my Camaro rims as a trial just to see if a real rim/tire fit okay and check the BS one more time. I used Marty's Mount Mate to do most of the measuring but it never hurts to have an actual rim on there.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3994.jpg

Then I went ahead and made some wheel stands. I had some wood lying around and I will need them for the rearend measuring etc so I spent a couple of hours ( is that better Greg?) making these... those are my old mock up wheels for now.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3997.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_4000.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_4001.jpg

GregWeld 10-26-2009 04:15 PM

Looking good NED!!!
:thumbsup:

awr68 10-26-2009 04:18 PM

Nice brakes!! I like the finish!! :thumbsup:

customcam 10-26-2009 04:47 PM

Wow looking good Ned :thumbsup:

rjsjea 10-26-2009 05:15 PM

Silver calipers look great.....didn't know that was an option for Wilwood

rwhite692 10-26-2009 05:17 PM

Ned those calipers look great

I like how you got Kyle to hold the caliper on there

"Hurry up Dad! Take the picture! I can't hold this thing!"

You should have come over and got the framing nailer then you could have made those four stands in 15 min

GregWeld 10-26-2009 05:22 PM

Rob -- I was thinking the same exact thing -- as in "how could it take a "day" to build some 2X4 crates"???

Then I remembered --- it was NED.... and he studied it for a couple hours trying to figure out how to make it just a bit more complicated... :willy: :willy: :rofl:

Okay -- and the SILVER CALIPERS --- they're only silver while they're still in the box... two trips around the block -- they're a brown dusty color -- never to come clean again... :woot:

Lookin' good NED... :thumbsup:

70rs 10-26-2009 08:19 PM

Very cool Ned! I like the brakes. I think you were right when you said you couldn't go wrong with either choice from Jason. Both are really nice looking wheels. I can't wait to see them on your car.:thumbsup: :cheers:

tones2SS 10-27-2009 08:01 AM

Very nice Ned. Killer build.:cheers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 243585)
Nice brakes!! I like the finish!! :thumbsup:

I do agree with the guys here. Those Wilwoods are AWESOME!:thumbsup:

GregWeld 10-27-2009 08:10 AM

I mailed off a giant toothbrush so Ned can keep 'em clean!!
:lol: :lol:

They really are great looking brakes! It's a great project in the first place!

DRJDVM's '69 10-27-2009 11:00 AM

Oh Greg...always with the jokes :)

It didnt take me all day....considering who I was talking to I should have been more specific.:willy: ..it took 6.265 hours on a late Sat afternoon....while it was raining outside....it was 55 degress at the time. After I did a CAD drawing and did some structural strength testing I made them by hand using a hand crafted and laser etched ceramic blade I had imported from Japan and stainless steel screws imported from Norway.......:D Better ?

Geez......it only took me about 2 hours.... the only "back and forth" I did was how high to make them.

As for the caliper finnish....... I dont think it will be any worse than keeping the red calipers clean...or the wheels for that matter. My BAER calipers are that dull rough gray color and they dont get covered in brake dust at all. Nothing alittle wheel cleaner and a hose wont wash off.

And thats Monet's hand holding the caliper.....no way I would trust Kyle to hold them up :) They arent exactly lite......

GregWeld 10-27-2009 11:13 AM

:rofl:


PERFECT RESPONSE!! I love it!

Did you monitor the relative humidity?

rwhite692 10-27-2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 (Post 243745)
...And thats Monet's hand holding the caliper.....


Dang! Those things are huge-by-gi-normous!

(Not Monet's hands, the Calipers!)

GregWeld 10-27-2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhite692 (Post 243750)
Dang! Those things are huge-by-gi-normous!

(Not Monet's hands, the Calipers!)

Thank goodness you clarified that statement!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :woot:

DRJDVM's '69 10-27-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Did you monitor the relative humidity?
Of course I did....what did you think I was some sort of amateur ?? This isnt my first rodeo you know......:lol:

Rob..... I'm gonna have to show this to Monet now....dont be suprised if she bitch slaps you :)

rwhite692 10-27-2009 12:32 PM

LOL, Greg I put that in there because I knew that if I didn't, you would get on with your wise-crackery!!! :D

Yes, you are THAT predictable!!!! :rofl:

GregWeld 10-27-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhite692 (Post 243756)
LOL, Greg I put that in there because I knew that if I didn't, you would get on with your wise-crackery!!! :D

Yes, you are THAT predictable!!!! :rofl:


My wife finishes my sentences - she does that because "I'm so predictable"...

So... now you sound just like my wife! :rolleyes:


:lateral: :cheers: :woot:

BTW --- I think you two owe me breakfast or something... (if you can't remember I'll make something up!) I'm going to leave here on the 31st - O'dark thirty - and head your direction. Should be down there relatively early on the 1st sometime... and I'll be really hungry!

rwhite692 10-27-2009 01:57 PM

Greg the least we can do if you are passing thru town on Thurs AM is take you to the local greasy spoon and fill you up with eggs and coffee (really - it's the LEAST we can do!)

syborg tt 10-27-2009 02:06 PM

Hi Ned,

Thank you for the little gift in the ctn.

ps - the wheel tool made it back home - thank again

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 238336)
Ned, if you don't mind me asking,where did you get that wheel/tire tool?I must have one. BTW, great progress on your Cuda, I wish I was at that stage with my 71

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...I/IMG_3934.jpg


DRJDVM's '69 10-27-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

BTW --- I think you two owe me breakfast or something... (if you can't remember I'll make something up!) I'm going to leave here on the 31st - O'dark thirty - and head your direction. Should be down there relatively early on the 1st sometime... and I'll be really hungry!
Absolutely.... I think I know a good place that just had their health department suspension lifted.....something about rats and Hepatitis C..... bunch a BS if you ask me...... I'll make some reservations....but I dont eat breakfast so I'll just have some coffee.....

But all kidding aside...... ANYONE coming through our area on the way to SEMA is more than welcome at our house.....yes, you included Greg :)

Rybar 10-27-2009 02:45 PM

Your Cuda is looking awesome Ned. :thumbsup:

rwhite692 10-27-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 (Post 243786)
Absolutely.... I think I know a good place that just had their health department suspension lifted.....something about rats and Hepatitis C..... bunch a BS if you ask me...... I'll make some reservations....but I dont eat breakfast so I'll just have some coffee.....

But all kidding aside...... ANYONE coming through our area on the way to SEMA is more than welcome at our house.....yes, you included Greg :)


Ned we can take him to Amore's on 11th...Only one fatal shooting this year!


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