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ironworks 09-14-2009 03:29 PM

Well Time for the Monday update, we have gone alittle bit over board on some items, but we are waiting on some parts and just can't stand to leave it alone. Enjoy

We got the differential from Strange today with the just released to sell 35 spline True Trac positraction. The Chassisworks axle housing is pretty slick lookin also.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009094.jpg

Just a picture of the rear suspension completely TIG welded into position, with the Ricks Stainless fuel tank in position. They sure do sell a nice unit. We got this one with their Bosch fuel pump installed inside the tank.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009085.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009088.jpg

We are starting on the interior panel designs and placement. We will be cutting out the complete interior structure to replac eit with these panels. Wait till you see the doors and the floors panels.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009099.jpg


Enjoy

HWY Nova 09-14-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 234820)

Wait till you see the doors and the floors panels.


We're waiting! More photos please.


--Eric

DOOM 09-14-2009 04:02 PM

Lookin good Rodger:thumbsup:

ironworks 09-14-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HWY Nova (Post 234824)
We're waiting! More photos please.


--Eric

I'm trying, But if we don't get a few critical parts all this work will be in vein. We are working as fast as we can. I was here at 5:06 am this morning.

The BFG guys slowed us down with 2 dozen donuts for 5 guys and a dog. We each had 2.

Rodger

GregWeld 09-14-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 234827)
I'm trying, But if we don't get a few critical parts all this work will be in vein. We are working as fast as we can. I was here at 5:06 am this morning.

The BFG guys slowed us down with 2 dozen donuts for 5 guys and a dog. We each had 2.

Rodger

Keep that up and you'll look like the Michelin Man!!

ironworks 09-15-2009 07:45 AM

So I borrowed the scales again yesterday. Most all the parts are on the car, We lack, fluids, plumbing, and lexan windows, exhaust, mufflers, driveshaft, light weight floor insulation, wiring and and few other small items. We also do not have the actual wheels and tires on the car

For not making any adjustments to the coilovers to move weight around it is coming out nicely. Our goal of under 3000 lbs without 260lb driver should be pretty easily done. Maybe 3100lbs with driver??????

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009109.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009110.jpg

Here is a picture of the start of the dash, We plan to get busy on the engish wheel to build the rest of it very soon. The interior panels are continuing.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009115.jpg

I'm getting nervous about some parts we cannot live without.

tones2SS 09-15-2009 08:09 AM

Looks good Rodger, as usual.
Keep us posted please.:thumbsup:

Vegas69 09-15-2009 08:10 AM

You guys have some serious skill....it's going to be tight on weight.

ironworks 09-15-2009 08:14 AM

We prefer to call it LUCKY..

As far as weight under 3000 with out driver should be easy. With driver, well I did not say who was driving.......With my 260lbs everything is tight.

GMracer 09-15-2009 09:34 AM

sick! I can't wait to see this interior

ironworks 09-18-2009 08:51 AM

Some pics for a Friday

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009117.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009118.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009123.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009124.jpg

Enjoy have a nice weekend.

Swain 09-18-2009 09:14 AM

So Rodger what wheels are you going with? haha

chr2002ca 09-18-2009 09:30 AM

I've been following this post since conception and I really appreciate all the 'weight' data you have been providing. Some of the magazines lately have been focusing on weight savings and so I think it's a hot item as of late. I noticed your Friday pictures and the metal plates you recently installed that will provide mounting for your lexan windows. I'd be curious to know much much weight difference there is between the glass that normally goes in those spots versus the lexan+metal plates. I may be building a track car in the near future and was considering the lexan windows myself. Any information on that is greatly appreciated! Also, I read through the thread again and couldn't tell if you went with moly for your cage? I apologize if I missed that info somewhere.

By the way, the concept renderings are absolutely sick. I hope you get the car 'finished' in time for the Optima challenge. It's quite amazing the progress your team is making. :hail:

nvr2fst 09-18-2009 09:48 AM

put those window surrounds back in my floor lol
looks sweet, are you going to set them with flush allen screws that would set thevibe off very nicely

ironworks 09-18-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swain (Post 235446)
So Rodger what wheels are you going with? haha

You want to post some pics of some ideas? I'm open....

nvr2fst 09-18-2009 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 235464)
You want to post some pics of some ideas? I'm open....

Check the c6 parts section at corvette forum.com Ive noticed a lot of used set ups for sale in the last couple of days. From Forgeline, HRE, CCW.

tones2SS 09-18-2009 03:04 PM

WOW! As usual, awesome job Ironworks!!!:thumbsup:

ironworks 09-18-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 235496)
Check the c6 parts section at corvette forum.com Ive noticed a lot of used set ups for sale in the last couple of days. From Forgeline, HRE, CCW.


I have a set of BUDNIKS on order and I'm due to pic them up next friday.

ironworks 09-23-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swain (Post 235446)
So Rodger what wheels are you going with? haha

I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...maro/photo.jpg

tones2SS 09-23-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 236197)
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...maro/photo.jpg

OH YEAH!! Looks good.:thumbsup:

Ricochet 09-23-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 236197)
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...maro/photo.jpg

Car is coming along killer Rodger! What is the finish on the wheels? Paint? Powder? Inquiry minds want to know!

ironworks 09-23-2009 11:37 AM

Funny you should say that, The center is powder coated. We are trying to decide whether to leave the hoops brushed or go with the black powder coated hoop. ?????????

Rodger

Teetoe_Jones 09-23-2009 11:51 AM

Black hoops. Do it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/hvxvgp.jpg

Thank me later for it.

Tyler

Swain 09-23-2009 01:14 PM

That's what I think he should do, go black on the hoops. Better make the decision within the next few mins though haha.

ironworks 09-23-2009 01:22 PM

Well it is black, We changed the plan with minutes to spare.

Black it is. We will rely on Jay to give us an updated pic when they are back from powder coat.

Rodger

Vegas69 09-23-2009 02:46 PM

I considered black lips on my Forgelines as well. I was worried about the tire and lip blending in photos and from a distance. At least your car is orange. I think it would of been a disaster on mine.

Jr 09-23-2009 03:39 PM

How much do the rims weigh?

Swain 09-23-2009 04:11 PM

When I get them back I can weigh them. I will post some pics to. They are gunna look nice.

DOOM 09-24-2009 04:50 AM

Rodger do they make that wheel in a three piece??

fleet 09-24-2009 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones (Post 236229)

Two unique Camaro's in one thread. :thumbsup:

Awesome rendering Tyler. It now fills up 24" of monitor as desktop background here.

syborg tt 09-24-2009 06:14 AM

my god that is beautiful

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones (Post 236229)
Black hoops. Do it.

http://i36.tinypic.com/hvxvgp.jpg

Thank me later for it.

Tyler


ironworks 09-24-2009 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 236387)
Rodger do they make that wheel in a three piece??

I don't think Budnik does 3 piece that I'm aware of. I'm sure Jay from Budnik (SWAIN) will chime later this morning.

A while back we had talked about doing are own one off wheels, well when we started fitting up the wheels on the car, we figured out that the backspace numbers were a lot less then a ideal for our wheel design and with our mono block idea for the wheels they would end up massive to machine, be very heavy and just not ideal to put on this car. Plus I felt that designing a one off set might be counter productive to the goal with this build. We wanted to assemble a car with Quality aftermarket parts that are commonly available for some one with some fab and design talent to assemble in the garage. We are trying to have above average results with bolt on parts. Granted we are doing a few things above and beyond, but there is no heavy duty chassis fab work or tons of engineering that we typically do on alot of our projects. The most intensive fab work done on this car is the rollcage, which was pre-bent, the interior panels that we have been replacing, and the bolt in window flanges for the lexan windows. The only thing above average is probably the cost of the parts, we have gone over budget on that for sure. But I think the results have been good so far.

So there you go a 20 minute answer for your simple question. I just wanted to explain why we made the change in the build. Enjoy

Garage Dog 65 09-24-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 235451)
are you going to set them with flush allen screws that would set thevibe off very nicely

Is there a better way to do the blackout when mounting this way ? I see race cars all the time with black applied to the steel and not the lexan that will (I'm not sure what you call the effect) high gloss in the stress area(s) against the clear lexan and looks bad. Should you paint both - the flange and the lexan with color, and/or is there some other gaskets or other process that works ?

PS, how about a 'tri-wing' screw instead of an allen style. We used them on L1011 aircraft and they are over-torque reduction fasteners. I'll see if I can find a pic - or get some from the basement stockpile.

Jim

Garage Dog 65 09-24-2009 08:20 AM

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ironworks 09-24-2009 08:40 AM

It is set up for #10 screws, see what you have for a recessed pan head. If you scuff up the lexan the black paint will stick to the back side.

Rodger

ironworks 09-24-2009 09:10 AM

Jim, do you have a big box of those? That would be slick.



Rodger

Garage Dog 65 09-24-2009 09:24 AM

I'll have to check and see. I have jars full of that stuff - but might not have enough of the 10's or in the recessed pan head version.

Alcoa makes them in steel:

http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_syste...asp?cat_id=733

I also found them in stainless at Crouch Sales Inc.

Neither come in black that I've found yet.

Swain 09-24-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 236387)
Rodger do they make that wheel in a three piece??

Doom,

These wheels are 2 Piece. Maybe sometime in the near future we will get into 3 Piece. Can't wait to see them with the black lip.

ironworks 09-24-2009 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garage Dog 65 (Post 236448)
I'll have to check and see. I have jars full of that stuff - but might not have enough of the 10's or in the recessed pan head version.

Alcoa makes them in steel:

http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_syste...asp?cat_id=733

I also found them in stainless at Crouch Sales Inc.

Neither come in black that I've found yet.

The stainless would be cool. If we brushed the heads of the bolts it would match the steering wheel and horn button and other odds and ends.

Rodger

ironworks 09-24-2009 11:33 AM

I was thinking about something like these.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#machine-screws/=3ruhz5


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