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Track Junky 12-18-2010 04:01 PM

Yep, me be likin' dem solid rollers, :thumbsup:. Be likin' that VR1 to. Hey, whatta ya know, I'm not the only feller wid an MSD box tatched to me firewall, LOL.

Lookin' good Dave,have fun at RTTC!!

CrossRamRich 12-18-2010 05:00 PM

Team Knockback
 
Read Todds thread, according to Stielow you need to learn to dance!:unibrow:

Flash68 12-19-2010 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 322566)
Personally, I'd put a floating caliper on it now and sell that kit. At the very least, make sure those axle bearings are tight.

Thanks Todd. Since this new kit is already installed I think we'll see how it plays out. Hell, I might not even notice what is going on. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 322567)
Yep, me be likin' dem solid rollers, :thumbsup:. Be likin' that VR1 to. Hey, whatta ya know, I'm not the only feller wid an MSD box tatched to me firewall, LOL.

Lookin' good Dave,have fun at RTTC!!

Thanks G. Ha, yeah Rich tried to persuade me to relocate the MSD box and I said no way. I'm going old school and simple on this one. :D Wish you were coming to El Toro with us...


Quote:

Originally Posted by RICH BERMEA (Post 322571)
Read Todds thread, according to Stielow you need to learn to dance!:unibrow:

Left foot braking like the gokart huh Rich? :_paranoid

Vegas69 12-20-2010 08:31 AM

Oh, you'll notice...:lol: Since your car isn't mini tubbed and doesn't have the monster lip, you may very well be OK. Either way, it's to late. ha ha

conekiller13 12-20-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 322567)
Yep, me be likin' dem solid rollers, :thumbsup:. Be likin' that VR1 to. Hey, whatta ya know, I'm not the only feller wid an MSD box tatched to me firewall, LOL.

Lookin' good Dave,have fun at RTTC!!

Well.......My MSD box will be attached to the firewall.......but on the inside, that whole race car thing Ya' know.

Flash68 12-20-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 322753)
Oh, you'll notice...:lol: Since your car isn't mini tubbed and doesn't have the monster lip, you may very well be OK. Either way, it's to late. ha ha

Well now that you got me all worked up about it, I probably will notice. :lol:

And I am mini-tubbed.

Matt@BOS 12-20-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 322766)
Well now that you got me all worked up about it, I probably will notice. :lol:

And I am mini-tubbed.

Here are the two tell-tale signs that you have knockback
1. when you drive your car and apply the brakes following a turn, nothing happens... until you tap the brakes a couple times.

2. When you get out of your car you need a new pair of pants.

There is also the possibility that you won't have any problems at all. Despite going to a floater setup in the near future, Steve doesn't have any issues with Bad Penny, and it's running manual brakes, tapered barings, and fixed calipers.

Matt

Track Junky 12-20-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conekiller13 (Post 322765)
Well.......My MSD box will be attached to the firewall.......but on the inside, that whole race car thing Ya' know.

You might want to keep that whole race car thing to your self, you might hurt Todd's feelings :rofl:

conekiller13 12-20-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 322775)
You might want to keep that whole race car thing to your self, you might hurt Todd's feelings :rofl:

Well..........we wouldn't want to do that now would we? :fluffy:

Flash68 12-20-2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 322774)
Here are the two tell-tale signs that you have knockback
1. when you drive your car and apply the brakes following a turn, nothing happens... until you tap the brakes a couple times.

2. When you get out of your car you need a new pair of pants.

There is also the possibility that you won't have any problems at all. Despite going to a floater setup in the near future, Steve doesn't have any issues with Bad Penny, and it's running manual brakes, tapered barings, and fixed calipers.

Matt

I'll be sure to bring extra pants to El Toro. Thanks for the tip. :D

Yes, and since we've got these installed now already, no point in not checking out to see how it plays out. Like you said - I could be okay. Stranger things have happened. And then I can rub it in Todd's face. :lol:

conekiller13 12-20-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 322774)
Here are the two tell-tale signs that you have knockback
1. when you drive your car and apply the brakes following a turn, nothing happens... until you tap the brakes a couple times.

2. When you get out of your car you need a new pair of pants.

There is also the possibility that you won't have any problems at all. Despite going to a floater setup in the near future, Steve doesn't have any issues with Bad Penny, and it's running manual brakes, tapered barings, and fixed calipers.

Matt

There are also anti-knock back springs available these days but it's always a good idea to give the middle pedal a little tap when going down the main straight before the braking zone to reset the brakes.

Flash68 12-20-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conekiller13 (Post 322780)
There are also anti-knock back springs available these days but it's always a good idea to give the middle pedal a little tap when going down the main straight before the braking zone to reset the brakes.

Yep, Stielow does this on the straights he said in Todd's knockback thread. If he's doing it, it must be the thing to do...

byndbad914 12-20-2010 11:47 PM

I tap the brakes on the main stretch every time as well. To be honest, it settles me a bit just to verify the brakes are there before I go to a 90mph turn at 135+mph :D A number of pros set the brakes the exact same way, it was just a few months ago I was watching the V8 Supercar races from Australia on Speed and they were showing the in-car of one of the drivers and every time on the long straights I would see him tap the brakes to set them and verify they were there.

cool car too!

Flash68 12-21-2010 12:29 AM

Tim - that makes a lot of sense, and at those speeds, can ya really blame someone? :)

Thanks for the words.

conekiller13 12-21-2010 08:07 AM

It's kinda funny watchin' the guys do that on T.V. during races. Their "tapping" of the brake pedal to set it can look a bit more like a couple quick stomps....:drive:

Flash68 12-23-2010 01:37 AM

Been ordering a bunch of stuff from Summit with those coupon codes posted on here recenty (thanks to that poster) -- mostly just gaskets/seals to button up this leaky SOB of a motor I have.

But I did decide to upgrade my pan from what I already thought I had upgraded to. I think I am not the only one out there who isn't crystal clear on this either, so thought I'd share. CV Products/Champ makes 2 versions of this SBC pan but many people mistakenly call both of them "road race" pans. One of them is a circle track pan with trap doors only on the left side (3 total) and the true RR pan (5 total) has trap doors on both sides. I found the CV/Champ RR pan on Amazon of all places for $251 with free shipping. It said 2 left in stock when I ordered.

Part #s are (CV) CV1080-LT-RR, and (Champ) CP80LT-RR. Same pan. Here are specs:

http://www.champpans.com/index.cfm?e...ctdetail&id=43

Anyway, after spending a good 2-3 hours last night researching old threads, part #s, dealer sites, and PM'ing people, I decided I wanted this pan -- and this post from 2008 helped me feel very good about it too, if anyone else is researching pan options. It's always nice to get an opinion from someone on a subject who has experienced firsthand all the options out there.

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...174#post366174

tones2SS 12-23-2010 07:54 AM

Very cool Dave. I look forward to updated pics as well.:thumbsup:

DIGI-TAILS 12-23-2010 08:03 AM

Keep the fire burnin', Dan. Cheers!!! :cheers:

awr68 12-23-2010 09:06 AM

Keep on keepin on Dave! You deff did the right thing on getting a TRUE RR pan! :yes:

Ron in SoCal 12-23-2010 09:12 AM

Yeah Dan (hahahaha)! BTW, haapy hoidays Bro....:)

Flash68 12-23-2010 11:20 AM

Dan... Dave... whatever. It's all good.. I've been called worse! :lol:

More parts today.. got my Varishocks and more Summit things. Santa keeps stopping by!

Thanks guys. Happy Holidays.

fleet 12-23-2010 11:59 AM

Dan,

I like this picture of how Barney reacted when you told him some of HIS parts hadn't come in.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...3ee2d6cba4.jpg

awr68 12-23-2010 12:32 PM

There's no fitting a cell phone in those pant pockets! :lol:

tones2SS 12-23-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 323336)
Dan... Dave... whatever. It's all good.. I've been called worse! :lol:

:lol:
My bad Dave. I meant to type Dave, but Dan somehow made it onto the screen. Sorry. Merry Christmas to you as well.:thumbsup: :cheers:

conekiller13 12-23-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 323380)
:lol:
My bad Dave. I meant to type Dave, but Dan somehow made it onto the screen. Sorry. Merry Christmas to you as well.:thumbsup: :cheers:

You must have thinking of Me.......awwwwww that's sweet........:willy:

Flash68 12-23-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 323345)
Dan,

I like this picture of how Barney reacted when you told him some of HIS parts hadn't come in.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...3ee2d6cba4.jpg

Ole Barney looks to be packin some serious artillery. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 323380)
:lol:
My bad Dave. I meant to type Dave, but Dan somehow made it onto the screen. Sorry. Merry Christmas to you as well.:thumbsup: :cheers:

Ha it's all good. No apology needed. You've called me the right name enough times prior. :lol: Happy Festivus. :cheers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by conekiller13 (Post 323387)
You must have thinking of Me.......awwwwww that's sweet........:willy:

:lol: :thumbsup:

fleet 12-23-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 323350)
There's no fitting a cell phone in those pant pockets! :lol:

Gekko would agree. :D

He may have been referring to pro-touring builds ...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d1192d_o_d.jpg

tones2SS 12-24-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conekiller13 (Post 323387)
You must have thinking of Me.......awwwwww that's sweet........:willy:

Yeah,...that's my excuse.:lol:

CrossRamRich 12-24-2010 09:21 AM

Merry Christmas!
 
Have a great holiday Dave! We have a lot of toys to play with when you return. :cheers:

Flash68 12-24-2010 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 323399)
Gekko would agree. :D

He may have been referring to pro-touring builds ...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d1192d_o_d.jpg

Gekko DOES believe in Festivus ya know. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICH BERMEA (Post 323481)
Have a great holiday Dave! We have a lot of toys to play with when you return. :cheers:

Thanks Rich! You too... I'm anxious to get out of the snow and back to the shop! :cheers:

Flash68 01-03-2011 02:47 AM

After a nice Xmas vacation I was anxious to get back in the shop with Rich and start installing some parts I had shipped while I was away. We made some good progress today fueled by grilled tacos for lunch and dinner in between. There's a sweet Mexican market down the street from Rich's shop.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/photo4-4.jpg

My Champ Road Race pan came in from Amazon, and at $251 shipped, I thought that was a very good deal. 1 left in stock the site says now.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3103.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3102.jpg

We tackled the rear suspension area today starting with the Hellwig 5824 sway bar.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3114.jpg

Custom length (they said no one ordered this size in over a year) Varishocks. Due to the fab work done by the previous shop working on the car we needed a very short shock compared to most 1st gens. Thanks to Mark @ SC&C for help on this.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3110.jpg

Installed, along with a 1" lowering block that we swapped in to replace the 2" block already there. Can't lose too much of the attempted -- but not quite reached -- DFresh slammed stance.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3132.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3135.jpg

Got my heads back from the machine shop. Wasn't expecting it, but not surprisingly I guess, they needed new guides and valve springs. They're CNC ported Brodix Track 1's. I guess the Pacaloy valve springs are supposed to be pretty nice pieces.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3107.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3111.jpg

A shot of the naked 377. We pulled the main bearing to inspect and it looked pretty darn good. At least I now know what we're dealing with on this bastardized Camaro.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF3141.jpg

Next projects in line are to replace seals/gaskets on the M-21, finish the brakes lines for the rear Wilwood discs, repair/replace the shifter linkage, put the motor back together, and then on to the new cooling system.

Happy New Year boys and girls. :cheers:

tones2SS 01-03-2011 07:28 AM

Very nice Dave. I see your starting the new year with a little "rebuild". Very nice. Happy New Year to you too.:cheers:
(Thanks for making me hungry with the pics of the tacos.:D)

EBMC 01-03-2011 07:45 AM

Lookin good Dave, Your gonna have some serious fun with that car. I'm jealous!

torino420 01-03-2011 07:49 AM

Nice upgrades Dave, that pan is sick! :thumbsup:

Vegas69 01-03-2011 07:50 AM

Good stuff, I'll be surprised if you need that rear sway bar. It's also a good time to consider a less rowdy cam.:unibrow:

GregWeld 01-03-2011 07:55 AM

round and round the toilet bowl goes.... where it stops?! Nobody knows!


:rofl: :rofl:


Nice stuff Dave! Glad to see you're having some fun with this car!

speedshftr 01-03-2011 08:48 AM

thats what i love about our hobby .its completly aceptable to buy a new car and tear it apart/lol
im glad to see you got everything in motion.those tacos are looking good about now:thumbsup:

fleet 01-03-2011 09:14 AM

Flash,

Have an estimate yet to when you'll be back on the road... scaring (and/or scarring) unsuspecting motorists and pedestrians? :P

awr68 01-03-2011 09:55 AM

Looking real good Dave! After this go-around what's left on the list...just the trans swap? Looks like a couple busy weeks and you will be back on the road!! Thanks for the porn!! :thumbsup:

BBC69Camaro 01-03-2011 10:28 AM

Great build, can't believe I have missed this one. :hail:

Any idea who made the front suspension bars in this pick:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF2881.jpg

Did they go back on?


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