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rustomatic 04-19-2016 09:45 AM

The new stuff looks great, Craig! Has thought been given to tying that rear cantilever mounting setup to the roll bar down tubes, for a bit more anti-twist in the rear? It seems like there's opportunity, without damaging your theoretically usable trunk space.

Part of the logic comes from how much rigidity the dash bar seems to provide the front section of a roll cage (I've seen several cages without dash bars that actually dance around under car movement--not good). I figure some of the same in the rear may add a bit of substantial improvement . . .

craig510 07-09-2016 07:36 PM

Well, I gave up on both my skill and time and had to hire some professionals to help finish painting my car.

It is getting color on the body right now and the hood, fenders and decklid tomorrow. Three weeks to assemble the car before I need to be on the way to Texas.

I still did a bunch of work stripping the car and the first round of primer and body work. The thing to remember when painting a car is to just take out your credit card and make sure you have a good limit... and a bunch of cash so you can get guys to work on the weekend!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9mtvobeb.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7i4aduh7.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pstetjmg0c.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psgnkxbxvd.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9wunntuu.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbah4vzu9.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pswfeun102.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pstnxkdoir.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psieprzfi4.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbo6brjbq.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pspboalzqh.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pslb7xsneq.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4vpy4pjx.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psert5eeqn.jpg

craig510 07-09-2016 07:43 PM

Finally got pretty good at TIG welding steel also.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pshsefdbk9.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psx7klw1pm.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psouuweer2.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pshocai8uj.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxl2dozqb.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4ddqzv0r.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pszwkzgkep.jpg
Special Ron Sutton locker springs

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psityhv0g0.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7hgkjuud.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pssf9eyz6o.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3lwn9wam.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psyzig3s1m.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psv6nfvrnr.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxmdcufrt.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psuupuf1j5.jpg

SSLance 07-10-2016 05:19 AM

Nice update!!!

fpvmustang 07-10-2016 10:06 PM

nice wish I was at paint stage

DBasher 07-10-2016 10:14 PM

Looks great, Craig. I think I know but I've got to ask...The insulation on the housing, have you got it on a hot plate preheating before welding? What temp were you able to get it up to?

Love the work you're doing and the thought put into the entire build!
:thumbsup:

craig510 07-10-2016 10:14 PM

In and out of the body shop in 2 days! Going to have to pay a couple hundred bucks extra for a cut and buff to clean out some debris, but overall very happy with how it looks and the fact that they got it done for me to still make Texas. The original color Ford "D" Ming Green looks awesome.

A few shoots from the painter at 11:45 PM:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psrwoscidj.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psg2jje1fv.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psgryvbgms.jpg

Pulling it back onto Mikes trailer at 6:30 AM this morning.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psmj8mrog9.jpg

Clear going on the removable body panels at 8:30 AM.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7hlrllua.jpg

Body back home and on jacks for a baseline alignment by noon.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pspk5pcuv9.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psnhwfpole.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9tt9kjw1.jpg

Second trip out to pick up the body panels at 6:00 PM. They all made it home safely and will get to dry for another day.
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pswvtccaqd.jpg

craig510 07-10-2016 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 640893)
Looks great, Craig. I think I know but I've got to ask...The insulation on the housing, have you got it on a hot plate preheating before welding? What temp were you able to get it up to?

Love the work you're doing and the thought put into the entire build!
:thumbsup:

Thanks Dan,

Yes, that is a hot plate I borrowed from my day job. I got the entire center up to 450*F, I then locally pre-heated with a mapp gas torch to 550, then would weld about an inch at a time, let it cool down to 475, then heat and weld again. The housing is cast steel, but it has a high carbon content so I used Ni99 rod as a precaution. I did some test welds (on some heavy plate steel) with the Ni99 and the 309 rod. The Ni was softer and broke rather than pulling out base metal like the 309, both were able to bend over 180 degrees before failing. With the amount of weld area I feel pretty good that I won't have any issues. I was checking temps with an IR temp gun which I think was giving good readings as the housing was almost black. I post heated the housing for about 6 hours (slowly turning down the temp) before turning off the hot plate and letting it cool overnight. Took a solid 6 or 7 hours to add 3 brackets and weld the tubes to the housing.... I should have just bought a floater... and a new driveshaft... and new brakes... and a new center section... but now I have the only 8.8 like this.

FaBrycation 07-11-2016 06:48 AM

Nice lookin Falcon, love the color choice

craig510 08-10-2016 07:28 AM

Well. We made it out to COTA. No issues with the falcon. Ran hard all weekend.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psjvaahumf.jpg

I'll post some videos when I get back to town.

Zoomin 08-10-2016 07:31 AM

Great pic! Looks like tons of fun, and really neat to see the Falcon in flight.

mad68rs 08-10-2016 08:09 AM

Awesome! I really enjoy this thread.

66novass 08-11-2016 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad68rs (Post 643063)
Awesome! I really enjoy this thread.

X2 this thread is sooo full of win :thumbsup: :hail:

Munssey 08-11-2016 06:26 AM

Great build, sir! Love seeing these Falcons getting back out there on the track.

craig510 08-12-2016 01:15 PM

Thanks Guys. Here are a couple more pics. Racing videos will be up this weekend.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pskzl51vd5.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psv8ivnomj.jpg

glassman 08-12-2016 07:02 PM

Wow Craig, great job with everything!!! Congrats on gettin 'er done and makin COTA...and nothing breaking!!

Cheers from across the creek!!

craig510 08-14-2016 09:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq8mK2tu6Uw

Walk Around the Pits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUSrct7NA7w

Hot Laps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myARMF2uFYQ

Speed Stop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dnj9_0l5is

AutoX
I don't know why the embedded videos don't work on some browsers, so I added the links to the youtube videos.

Panteracer 08-15-2016 08:28 PM

Falcon
 
Way to go Craig
Car and the fab work look awesome

See you at goodguys this fall

Bob

rustomatic 08-16-2016 04:44 PM

The car is way pretty now, Craig--you're brave!

65 347 08-28-2016 07:34 PM

Craig
Saw the falcon on display this weekend in Pleasanton, looks great.

Mike

craig510 08-28-2016 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65 347 (Post 644619)
Craig
Saw the falcon on display this weekend in Pleasanton, looks great.

Mike

Thanks. People liked it before when it was patina, but they really liked it now. I can't wait to get some more seat time!

craig510 10-01-2016 09:40 AM



Having fun with the Lotus Club at Marina CA Airport. I finally got the SoloStorm data logger figured out....Well almost. You can see my G-Meter is upside down.

Off to the garage to swap my clutch and build a little mount for the Nexus 7 tablet that runs the logger.

craig510 10-11-2016 06:05 AM

If anyone is still reading these posts I have to say that the locker + autox = awesome.

I ran an EVO school on Saturday and finally feel confident with the new setup. If you have any chance of saving it after you go too deep you just point the wheel and roll on the gas. It will pull the car out of a slide and keep the momentum up.
Very fun.

I put another 200 street miles on it and it is pretty much unnoticeable. You just have to be very smooth. I think the Lucas 80-90 semisynthetic oil helps as well.

syborg tt 10-11-2016 07:21 AM

I know I am still reading these posts as my goal is to have my car ready next summer for AutoX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 647116)
If anyone is still reading these posts I have to say that the locker + autox = awesome.

I ran an EVO school on Saturday and finally feel confident with the new setup. If you have any chance of saving it after you go too deep you just point the wheel and roll on the gas. It will pull the car out of a slide and keep the momentum up.
Very fun.

I put another 200 street miles on it and it is pretty much in noticeable. You just have to be very smooth. I think the Lucas 80-90 semisynthetic oil helps as well.


fpvmustang 10-11-2016 07:12 PM

I watch like a hawk lol

Sieg 10-11-2016 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 647116)
If anyone is still reading these posts I have to say that the locker + autox = awesome.

I ran an EVO school on Saturday and finally feel confident with the new setup. If you have any chance of saving it after you go too deep you just point the wheel and roll on the gas. It will pull the car out of a slide and keep the momentum up.
Very fun.

I put another 200 street miles on it and it is pretty much in noticeable. You just have to be very smooth. I think the Lucas 80-90 semisynthetic oil helps as well.

Still reading, keep posting.........it's an election year, naturally everything is off axis. :thumbsup:

Air-bender 10-11-2016 09:22 PM

Nice meeting you on Saturday. Fun day for sure and it was nice watching the vintage cars run with the late model guys. It's pretty impressive what these old cars can do with the right parts combo.

LuxurySportCoupe 10-12-2016 08:31 AM

Looks and sounds good! I've definately been reading

67XR7 10-12-2016 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 647116)
If anyone is still reading these posts I have to say that the locker + autox = awesome.

I ran an EVO school on Saturday and finally feel confident with the new setup. If you have any chance of saving it after you go too deep you just point the wheel and roll on the gas. It will pull the car out of a slide and keep the momentum up.
Very fun.

I put another 200 street miles on it and it is pretty much unnoticeable. You just have to be very smooth. I think the Lucas 80-90 semisynthetic oil helps as well.

awesome, I'm really considering that setup when its diff time. I think i'm going to give it a shot and build my own 3rd member this go around.

SSLance 10-13-2016 05:32 AM

Welcome to the RSRT equipped Soft Locker autocross club! It is great on course...isn't it!!

craig510 10-13-2016 07:22 PM

Here is my old pressure plate, a "new" press and some random undercarriage shots:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pseikhoutu.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps950ezzsa.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2cuy8hmp.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxesur8ax.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psiieohtcn.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbfveez7i.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pspfr2ntw8.jpg

The exhaust is a 2.5" dual to 3.5" single with a side exit oval tip that fits flush with the rear tire.

syborg tt 10-14-2016 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 647291)
The exhaust is a 2.5" dual to 3.5" single with a side exit oval tip that fits flush with the rear tire.


Love the exhaust and the pics as well.

Beechy 10-14-2016 08:17 PM

Another vote for the exhaust, combo crossmember and pics!!!!!!!nice work.
Jim

craig510 11-11-2016 09:28 PM

All loaded up. New tires installed and some 700# front springs. Ready for some Good Guys AutoX action.

Try2paz 11-17-2016 06:33 AM

How did you do at Goodguys? :trophy-1302:

craig510 11-17-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Try2paz (Post 648913)
How did you do at Goodguys? :trophy-1302:

I finished a ways down in 11 or 12th place. The car had more in it than the driver this weekend.

craig510 03-07-2017 09:09 PM

This was my best run from this weekends American AutoX....good enough for last place (1.7 seconds off the winner). The car is as good as ever and very easy to drive with the current shock and spring package. I feel like the car had more in it than I did, tightening up on the slalom cones and connecting the dots on the last turn around would have probably pulled me into the chase. I'll be driving the bird to Vegas for round one of this year Optima series. Wish me luck.


Try2paz 03-08-2017 08:52 AM

Good luck in Vegas! What are you doing for your gopro setup? I've always done in car and want to move out out of car seems to give a better view.

craig510 03-08-2017 12:52 PM

I just use the GoPro suction cup mount. I'm going to get an external mic in the near future. I like this view the best as it show where I am looking and what I am doing with the wheel.

craig510 03-08-2017 10:38 PM

I almost forgot to show off my power steering cooler, it mounts off of the hood latch, 18 ga steel.

Started with some cardboard templates and flat layouts:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pskbxk8tcm.jpg

All formed up:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscxgl9zqf.jpg

Basic Shape:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psdjexjrsv.jpg

Getting fancy:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psj1exclxr.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps51le5wcc.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psg30yio8q.jpg

Might as well add some dimples to improve the "air flow"
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psvc7e7zil.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8cegoxap.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9rxup95q.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psntf6gsbg.jpg

Also added a nice little cutout to run the lines:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psn0mcju5l.jpg

Helper springs got added to the rear coilovers so I could go up my driveway at an angle:
http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...psioleyts8.jpg


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