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XLexusTech 02-15-2013 08:07 AM

I just noticed something... that's my car on the lift in the photo... @ JRS...Good choice on suspension Guru...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psa950fc51.jpg

carbuff 02-15-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 464775)

If you switch to a TruTrac, can you still use that pump? It looks like it sits right where the differential would go, but I'm not an expert on diffs for sure...

Also, are you pumping out to a cooler? Where are you going to mount it if so?

67zo6Camaro 02-15-2013 09:26 AM

^^^ that is a super slick setup ^^^

intocarss 02-15-2013 01:20 PM

I was thinking you should just buy a Nextel Cup car :idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I20MI...6F1DD1B946CD27

OR

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...27029039pp.htm

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ch...45172300pp.htm

Flash68 02-15-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 464808)
I think you did good with the buy on this third member.. If locker does not work then you can swap posi unit... I have one of these units on order..

Thanks. I hope so... If not, make a change!

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 464815)
Dave - What are the performance traits of the Locker that could be a negative in your application?

Negative? Since I don't care about the noise a locker makes and almost welcome it, the only potential negative thing I need to experience myself is the deal on corners of a road course. Some say it's a little sketchy and takes adjustments and getting used to. Most autoX guys love it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLexusTech (Post 464817)
I just noticed something... that's my car on the lift in the photo... @ JRS...Good choice on suspension Guru...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psa950fc51.jpg

I've said this before, but I chose Jake and went with his full recipe (as close as I can) on his AIX 2nd gen. He spent 3 years dialing it in and did very well in AIX with it, also something that is on my goal list for the next 5 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 464833)
If you switch to a TruTrac, can you still use that pump? It looks like it sits right where the differential would go, but I'm not an expert on diffs for sure...

Also, are you pumping out to a cooler? Where are you going to mount it if so?

I believe I can use the pump still. Def not an expert either.

Not gonna run a cooler to start. Gonna run a line from pump out back to the return fitting on the housing.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 464846)
^^^ that is a super slick setup ^^^

The locker or the tow hook? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 464898)

Nah, that's unoriginal, just as much fun, and a lot cheaper. :bang:

intocarss 02-15-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 464904)
Negitive? Since I don't care about the noise a locker makes and almost welcome it

You're like me, I like the noises, whines, and vibrations that a Hod Rod makes.
I say.. If ya can't feel It, smell It or hear It, what's the damn point!:D

Flash68 02-15-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 464905)
You're like me, I like the noises, whines, and vibrations that a Hod Rod makes.
I say.. If ya can't feel It, smell It or hear It, what's the damn point!:D

yeah buddy!! :thumbsup:

GregWeld 02-15-2013 05:12 PM

I agree with Dave and Jerry on the rowdy and rough part. When I put the Mustang in gear - you'd think the tranny or something was going to drop out the bottom -- the whole car goes "CLUNK"! And driving slow through the pits - if you let off the throttle - the rear end bangs and clunks... and the whole experience is just the polar opposite of driving something "normal".... which is exactly what I like about it!

Cris@JCG 02-15-2013 06:20 PM

I have a C&R unit that has a Tru Trac in it with the internal pump .. No problem on the replacement of the locker

Now why would you get a unit like this.. a built in pump for cooler & not run it.. i recommend that you run it.. Also when you vent the diff.. try to run a -10 hose.. it will help with pressure the diff builds.. here is pic of the one I did on Blu...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9611e31f.jpg



I believe I can use the pump still. Def not an expert either.

Not gonna run a cooler to start. Gonna run a line from pump out back to the return fitting on the housing.

carbuff 02-17-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 464943)
I have a C&R unit that has a Tru Trac in it with the internal pump .. No problem on the replacement of the locker

Good to know...

Cris,

Does that cooler get much airflow? Tucked up against the gas tank like that, it's hard to see how much air would get through the fins? Or is the cooling in this case less about flow and more just about surface area to dissipate the heat? You aren't running a temp gauge on the diff, are you?

Flash68 02-17-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 464919)
the whole experience is just the polar opposite of driving something "normal".... which is exactly what I like about it!

:guns:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 464943)
I have a C&R unit that has a Tru Trac in it with the internal pump .. No problem on the replacement of the locker

Now why would you get a unit like this.. a built in pump for cooler & not run it..

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Because it may not be necessary. My diff temp gauge will tell me what I need to do. :rules: :D

I like to add things only if necessary... you know, like a big SB2.2 engine. :lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 465256)
Good to know...



Cris,

Does that cooler get much airflow? Tucked up against the gas tank like that, it's hard to see how much air would get through the fins? Or is the cooling in this case less about flow and more just about surface area to dissipate the heat? You aren't running a temp gauge on the diff, are you?

I can't see why one would install a system like this and not monitor temps. I'll surely run a diff temp gauge.

carbuff 02-17-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 465296)
I can't see why one would install a system like this and not monitor temps. I'll surely run a diff temp gauge.

Where does one install the temperatur probe for the differential? I presume it needs to be at or near the bottom to stay 'in' the fluid... I'm not sure if I've seen one before...

intocarss 02-18-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 465402)
Where does one install the temperatur probe for the differential? I presume it needs to be at or near the bottom to stay 'in' the fluid... I'm not sure if I've seen one before...

I'd bet you can attach it to the out going line to the cooler

carbuff 02-18-2013 01:56 PM

Agreed, but in Dave's case, and more importantly, mine :D , we will neither have coolers, at least to start. So I was wondering, if I wanted to run a gauge to monitor the temps to decide if I need a gauge, how I would go about it?

intocarss 02-18-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 465590)
Agreed, but in Dave's case, and more importantly, mine :D , we will neither have coolers, at least to start. So I was wondering, if I wanted to run a gauge to monitor the temps to decide if I need a gauge, how I would go about it?

OH didn't realize you weren't running a cooler :sieg: :sieg

Flash68 02-18-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 465402)
Where does one install the temperatur probe for the differential? I presume it needs to be at or near the bottom to stay 'in' the fluid... I'm not sure if I've seen one before...

I did some lookin around and drilling/tapping a fitting into the bottom half of the carrier cover looks to be a common method.

GregWeld 02-18-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 465638)
I did some lookin around and drilling/tapping a fitting into the bottom half of the carrier cover looks to be a common method.



WELD in a proper bung.....

Flash68 02-18-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 465640)
WELD in a proper bung.....

I didn't say it was gonna by MY method. :lol:

You got me. WELD is the key word there. :rules:

carbuff 02-18-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 465638)
I did some lookin around and drilling/tapping a fitting into the bottom half of the carrier cover looks to be a common method.

That's what I assumed, but I'm iffy on the idea of a sensor hanging out the bottom of the housing. I might have to reconsider one of my gauge choices though if I'm going to do enough road course events. :)

Thanx!

Flash68 02-20-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 465684)
That's what I assumed, but I'm iffy on the idea of a sensor hanging out the bottom of the housing. I might have to reconsider one of my gauge choices though if I'm going to do enough road course events. :)

Thanx!

I hear ya Bryan. This could be an option?

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...p?Product=1227

Flash68 02-20-2013 11:17 PM

Ok more parts coming in as I wait for the big pallet gets here.

Did lots of research on E85 and came with this guy as my carb builder. Braswell and Hendrick Motorsports have had him do work for them.

http://marksullense85carburetors.com/

It's a Holley 950HP main body with numerous modifications for E85. Due to E85 requiring approx 30% more volume than gas, it has #97 jets in it. The relatively small 1.375" venturi size is intentional for excellent throttle response and mid range torque, and it will be a sacrifice of hp on the top end. I figure I got Rob beat on hp by a mile, so I am going after the torque to make it a sweep. :D

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps84779a1e.jpg

And of course an update here would be incomplete without some Nascar reference of some kind. Got some carbon fiber brake cooling ducts that fit over the lower valance openings almost perfectly. $35 on ebay. And yeah it's Toyota stuff, what can ya do.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psd2e940b2.jpg

The engine is ALMOST ready to the front of the line. All the engines that have race deadlines move up to the front at the shop Mike said. I told him I have a really important dyno contest on the internet I am late for -- does that count?

Oh BTW, that little 781 cube motor ONLY made 1540 hp and 1200 ft lbs. They were pretty disappointed actually. :rolleyes:

67zo6Camaro 02-20-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 466152)

That E-85 stuff.... pretty cool being a trail blazer for this community with that. I have always had an interest in the ethanol stuff, even considered farming corn.... but then found out there is a $10,000 fine if you make ethanol without the proper goverment papers. Go figure. You can make bio-diesel. :headscratch:

I can't wait to see this carb in action on that motor. Hot diggity Damn! :D

FETorino 02-20-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 466152)
Ok more parts coming in as I wait for the big pallet gets here.

Did lots of research on E85 and came with this guy as my carb builder. Braswell and Hendrick Motorsports have had him do work for them.

http://marksullense85carburetors.com/

It's a Holley 950HP main body with numerous modifications for E85. Due to E85 requiring approx 30% more volume than gas, it has #97 jets in it. The relatively small 1.375" venturi size is intentional for excellent throttle response and mid range torque, and it will be a sacrifice of hp on the top end. I figure I got Rob beat on hp by a mile, so I am going after the torque to make it a sweep. :D

The engine is ALMOST ready to the front of the line. All the engines that have race deadlines move up to the front at the shop Mike said. I told him I have a really important dyno contest on the interest I am late for -- does that count?

Oh BTW, that little 781 cube motor ONLY made 1540 hp and 1200 ft lbs. They were pretty disappointed actually. :rolleyes:

Imagine if your motor ever actually runs how excited you'll be.:mock:

That carb looks tiny

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 466154)
That E-85 stuff.... pretty cool being a trail blazer for this community with that. I have always had an interest in the ethanol stuff, ! :D

I have to give DG credit for that E85 idea. Too bad for him my motor will run on it while his is still a pile of parts.

Vegas69 02-20-2013 11:45 PM

Get help....

CrossRamRich 02-21-2013 12:31 AM

Go "Green" brother! Like my Avitar Todd? Ya, you love it! Woo! :cheers:

Vince@Meanstreets 02-21-2013 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 466154)
That E-85 stuff.... pretty cool being a trail blazer for this community with that. I have always had an interest in the ethanol stuff, even considered farming corn.... but then found out there is a $10,000 fine if you make ethanol without the proper goverment papers. Go figure. You can make bio-diesel. :headscratch:

I can't wait to see this carb in action on that motor. Hot diggity Damn! :D

yep, 2 extra steps and a bag of sugar can net ya some tasty "shine". I ain't knowin notin bout dat. :peepwall:

carbuff 02-21-2013 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 466150)
I hear ya Bryan. This could be an option?

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...p?Product=1227

Well, I won't have a cooler at this point, so I can't really use it. ;) Perhaps you can?

I think I'm going to have Eric weld in a temp sensor probe on the housing, maybe on the lower front area so that the probe would come out facing forward. The sensor itself is pretty small, so it should fit ok. The housing is out right now for some underbody paint and cleanup before final install, so now's the time. :)

XLexusTech 02-21-2013 07:54 AM

Can you share the Ebay info/Seller/store.. i may be keen to pick up some of those TRD items.

Ron in SoCal 02-21-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 466188)
Well, I won't have a cooler at this point, so I can't really use it. ;) Perhaps you can?

I think I'm going to have Eric weld in a temp sensor probe on the housing, maybe on the lower front area so that the probe would come out facing forward. The sensor itself is pretty small, so it should fit ok. The housing is out right now for some underbody paint and cleanup before final install, so now's the time. :)

Fast forward to 1:50 for plumbing location should you decide to run a cooler...


Track Junky 02-21-2013 11:56 AM

Is that a corn husk on wheels on top of the carb bowls? :popcorn2:

intocarss 02-21-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 466161)
yep, 2 extra steps and a bag of sugar can net ya some tasty "shine". I ain't knowin notin bout dat. :peepwall:

So what you're saying Is... we can tap the fuel tank after a run and have a party!! :idea:

Flash68 02-21-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 466154)
That E-85 stuff.... pretty cool being a trail blazer for this community with that. I have always had an interest in the ethanol stuff, even considered farming corn.... but then found out there is a $10,000 fine if you make ethanol without the proper goverment papers. Go figure. You can make bio-diesel. :headscratch:

I can't wait to see this carb in action on that motor. Hot diggity Damn! :D

I think there may be a business venture in there somewhere.... :peepwall:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 466155)
Imagine if your motor ever actually runs how excited you'll be.:mock:

That carb looks tiny



I have to give DG credit for that E85 idea. Too bad for him my motor will run on it while his is still a pile of parts.

Won't it be fun when my little motor and little carb set yours on fire? :bitchslap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 466156)
Get help....

Amen. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrossRamRich (Post 466160)
Go "Green" brother! Like my Avitar Todd? Ya, you love it! Woo! :cheers:

Nice avatar! :lol: :action-smiley-027:

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 466188)
Well, I won't have a cooler at this point, so I can't really use it. ;) Perhaps you can?

I think I'm going to have Eric weld in a temp sensor probe on the housing, maybe on the lower front area so that the probe would come out facing forward. The sensor itself is pretty small, so it should fit ok. The housing is out right now for some underbody paint and cleanup before final install, so now's the time. :)

I'll snap a pic of where my fitting is on mine when I receive it... looks like early next week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLexusTech (Post 466189)
Can you share the Ebay info/Seller/store.. i may be keen to pick up some of those TRD items.

dano610, but search "carbon fiber brake ducts" and there are 40 options on there right now. Some really cool pieces from Hendrick just showed up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 466195)
Fast forward to 1:50 for plumbing location should you decide to run a cooler...

Thanks Ronnie. :action-smiley-027:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 466241)
Is that a corn husk on wheels on top of the carb bowls? :popcorn2:

Yep it's like a little corn chariot. :lol:

sik68 02-21-2013 12:21 PM

All that ish looks crazy badass DG!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 466152)
I told him I have a really important dyno contest on the internet I am late for -- does that count?

LOL

sixnina 02-21-2013 10:27 PM

It's a Holley 950HP main body with numerous modifications for E85. Due to E85 requiring approx 30% more volume than gas, it has #97 jets in it. The relatively small 1.375" venturi size is intentional for excellent throttle response and mid range torque, and it will be a sacrifice of hp on the top end. I figure I got Rob beat on hp by a mile, so I am going after the torque to make it a sweep.

Did some one say sweep!!!!!!!
Sweep the leg!!!!

sds machining 02-21-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixnina (Post 466391)
Did some one say sweep!!!!!!!
Sweep the leg!!!!

Lol karate kid quotes always applicable...

Flash68 02-21-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixnina (Post 466391)
It's a Holley 950HP main body with numerous modifications for E85. Due to E85 requiring approx 30% more volume than gas, it has #97 jets in it. The relatively small 1.375" venturi size is intentional for excellent throttle response and mid range torque, and it will be a sacrifice of hp on the top end. I figure I got Rob beat on hp by a mile, so I am going after the torque to make it a sweep.

Did some one say sweep!!!!!!!
Sweep the leg!!!!

Shane, come by the shop next week ... heard you are interested in some parts we got layin around. :peepwall:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sds machining (Post 466392)
Lol karate kid quotes always applicable...

Do you have a problem with that Mr Lawrence? :bitchslap: :D

sixnina 02-23-2013 08:50 PM

Will do, when you gonna be there? Sat or Sun?

Flash68 02-23-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixnina (Post 466739)
Will do, when you gonna be there? Sat or Sun?

Not sure. It could be mid week or the weekend... all depends when my pallet arrives. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 03-03-2013 09:42 AM

Well it's pretty clear to me now why we haven't seen any photos of this MYSTERY PROJECT..... With some kind of oddball "small block" and whacky heads and induction....







Could this be a spy shot??!?!?!?











http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...os/file-22.jpg












http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...os/file-23.jpg

Flash68 03-03-2013 08:25 PM

I don't know what the heck that is, but I'll trade what I got for it. :hello:


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