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Flash68 03-30-2013 09:54 AM

Now that Ron and Rob both have their cars home and plan on doing nothing to them in the near future, I guess I will post where I am at. :poke:

Like all builds this thing has really hit some bumps lately, and add some personal drama to the fold and this stuff can really drag ya down sometimes. We all go through it so no need to elaborate. :snapout:

Biggest bummer for me was determining we cannot use the Hendrick Motorsports billet oil pan that was my favorite piece on this motor (aesthetically anyway). They are made for a 3-1/4 stroke Honda rod Nascar motor and not for my big bulky 4" stroker apparently. After a couple hours of work by Watson on clearancing, the decision was made to stop and just resell it and order a custom pan for my deal. There was a lot of work left to be done and no guarantee it would fit. Here are the dividers taken out.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps51ebc8b7.jpg

A call to Dan Olson Oil Pans was made and in 3 weeks or so I will have my pan. Here is a big block version of what they make and mine should look similar to this except with a front shelf to clear the rack and sub Xmember.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps11012e39.jpg

Not much left for me to do on my end with the engine. Mike ordered some springs and retainers last week to finish up the heads. Everything should be there and ready to assemble by next week minus oil pan. Once that arrives in 3 weeks or so it should be a matter of bolting that on and getting ready for dyno. So I am hoping for end of April dyno session.

A few shots of my bits

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psfaa27187.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psdd1126d9.jpg

Gotta love the old school hand written flow sheet

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps19dd6d20.jpg

On to the car... Have everything for suspension minus axles that are coming soon. Hopefully get all rear parts mocked up soon. Rich's other Camaro project in the shop has drug on longer than planned for a variety of reasons (as with every build) so just waiting for that at this point. The front is completely mocked up at this point. Once the rear is mocked up and we can verify some measurements/clearances that will allow us to work on fuel cell and oil tank location. That is going to be tight I can tell already. :bang:

Got my C&R radiator in yesterday and it's a really nice piece. Excited to clean up a lot of the packaging with the built in oil cooler and PS cooler. Paul @ C&R was great to work with in putting this together and told me the funny story how he originally convinced (after some considerable effort) Kyle @ DSE to convert to his water to oil setup. Kyle came in after his road course session and said the oil temp gauge was broken since the oil temps were so much lower. The gauge was working fine. Could be just a marketing story but I enjoyed it. :lol:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps284d684f.jpg

And finally since Mr Fab53 Brett Campbell was up in Norcal kickin ass in Street Machine at GG AutoX he stopped by and we assessed the flare situation (that is Brett's part of this project to manage and execute). After much discussion and measuring, he pulled out his trusty magic marker, some tape, and a metal rod that was laying on the ground and got all technical on us for some template marks. Once I get my wheels ordered soon he will come back up and make cuts and it's no turning back then. The pics tell the story. :D

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psba57ddec.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psa6a14e85.jpg

fleet 03-30-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 472926)
Like all builds this thing has really hit some bumps lately, and add some personal drama to the fold and this stuff can really drag ya down sometimes. We all go through it so no need to elaborate. :snapout:

Flash,

I'm sorry to hear about the personal drama, but remember I warned you never hire a manservant that is a US citizen.

Flash68 03-30-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 472929)
Flash,

I'm sorry to hear about the personal drama, but remember I warned you never hire a manservant that is a US citizen.

If he is a skilled craftsman capable of building an oil tanker bladder, then he must be worth the risk. :D

GregWeld 03-30-2013 09:26 PM

Did the beer help with the radius measuring??

seancarole 03-30-2013 10:19 PM

Only import dark beer! yee-teah He hay! Just a f@%()& ya I know it's all gamble and can't wait to see it come to fruition. The bumps and hurdles it takes to make a beast out of a yada yada yada
























:walkingdog:

GregWeld 03-31-2013 06:59 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^ What'd he just say???

fleet 03-31-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 473075)
^^^^^^^^^^^ What'd he just say???

yer jes jellazz cuz you ain't bringin da shizzle ole man.http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ps695f9d8e.gif

Flash68 03-31-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 473012)
Did the beer help with the radius measuring??

Some. Woulda been a tighter line with some beer with flavor in it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seancarole (Post 473022)
Only import dark beer! yee-teah He hay! Just a f@%()& ya I know it's all gamble and can't wait to see it come to fruition. The bumps and hurdles it takes to make a beast out of a yada yada yada

:walkingdog:

Thanks man. It definitely is a test at numerous times...

and Northern California craft brew is where it's at, actually. :guns:

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 473078)
yer jes jellazz cuz you ain't bringin da shizzle ole man.http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ps695f9d8e.gif

:lol:

Track Junky 03-31-2013 01:42 PM

Great to see a progress post. Good luck moving forward :thumbsup:

sik68 03-31-2013 06:52 PM

Way to power through DG! Show this car who's boss

waynieZ 03-31-2013 09:25 PM

Great update and some sweet parts. I'm glad its coming together.

Flash68 03-31-2013 11:10 PM

Thanks guys. Sometimes these mother truckers just fight us back. :D

Onward and upward. :Tomcat:

CarlC 04-01-2013 09:35 PM

That radiator is awesome. I dig full-on functional parts like that. It should serve you well.

At some point going to the later model lower support/top cap plate vs. the radiator support flange mount is a great way to go. It lessens the fatigue problems that come with solid mounting a radiator.

89 RS 04-01-2013 11:23 PM

Great to hear about more progress Dave. :thumbsup: Stay the course and it will all come together, I'm stoked to see more!

intocarss 04-01-2013 11:34 PM

:grouphug:

FETorino 04-06-2013 09:47 PM

Looks like DG finished his car. Nascar motor, tex trans, Jongbloed wheel blue with white stripes. This is your car isn't it DG? :mock:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps67ce22e5.jpg

Flash68 04-06-2013 09:58 PM

Close. But not really. Those ^^ are BBS wheels. And that car does not have a license plate. :sieg:

These are some Jongbloeds. :bitchslap:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps5dfab5b3.jpg

Killer car.

FETorino 04-06-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 474139)
Close. But not really. Those ^^ are BBS wheels. And that car does not have a license plate. :sieg:

These are some Jongbloeds. :bitchslap:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps5dfab5b3.jpg

Killer car.

Dude quit screwing around that's your car. Look at the exhaust, that hood and those stripes.:lol:

GregWeld 04-06-2013 10:03 PM

He's said more than once he loves my Mustang and was going to take some cues from it! Looks like he's a man of his word!!

Flash68 04-06-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 474140)
Dude quit screwing around that's your car. Look at the exhaust, that hood and those stripes.:lol:

Yeah that car does look pretty good doesn't it. :thankyou:

Exhaust on wrong side.

Blue is too deep.

Stripes are pretty sweet you are right.

:RunninDog:

Flash68 04-06-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 474141)
He's said more than once he loves my Mustang and was going to take some cues from it! Looks like he's a man of his word!!

Hey hey hey.. those were private conversations I thought. :smiley_smack:

Watson does have a couple blocks in the shop he said today that he is doing the machining on for Tony Odo.

Yeah your Mustang is okay. If that's what you're into.

GregWeld 04-06-2013 10:08 PM

Hey! Hang up the phone and go play with Susie....



EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Flash68 04-06-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 474144)
Hey! Hang up the phone and go play with Susie....



EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Oh Susie Q will get plenty of me starting this Thursday... the first day of our honeymoon.

:rockin:

Flash68 04-07-2013 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlC (Post 473352)
That radiator is awesome. I dig full-on functional parts like that. It should serve you well.

At some point going to the later model lower support/top cap plate vs. the radiator support flange mount is a great way to go. It lessens the fatigue problems that come with solid mounting a radiator.

Carl, thanks. We've chatted about your C&R rad in the past and how it sometimes cools your oil TOO well. Go figure.

I didn't think too much about the mounting for this when I talked to Paul @ C&R but you got me thinking now. Guess we'll probably roll with it like this for now.

Did you convert yours down from stock mount style down the road or did you get yours that way?

fleet 04-07-2013 06:14 AM

DG,

Do you have an ETA on the flares?

intocarss 04-07-2013 07:54 AM

ETA....Estimated Torino Attack? :headspin:

Flash68 04-07-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 474157)
DG,

Do you have an ETA on the flares?

No sir I do not. Brett is waiting on me to get the wheels so he can come back up and make cuts and more measuring. So probably a month or 2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 474163)
ETA....Estimated Torino Attack? :headspin:

I like your thinking. :Tomcat:

Flash68 04-22-2013 08:40 PM

Getting closer. Dan Olson pan installed.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps04f06cab.jpg

badmatt 04-22-2013 08:46 PM

Nice pan there...

Sell me your billet one I am in need of a shallower pan.

Matt

califconstruct 04-22-2013 09:30 PM

Oh, that's NICE!!!.. :drool:

byndbad914 04-22-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 476550)
Getting closer. Dan Olson pan installed.

That pan is bada$$ - my old steel dry sump pan has a pinhole leak around the tubing and I have been thinking of getting another pan but having a hard time finding one that fits like my other did (it is really short and the pickup tubes sit inside). Anyway, I looked at the Olson website and I do not see that pan - is it custom? If so, I might have to give him a call and see about something similar but have it made to fit into my custom frame...

Flash68 04-22-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 476552)
Nice pan there...

Sell me your billet one I am in need of a shallower pan.

Matt

Done! :G-Dub:

Quote:

Originally Posted by byndbad914 (Post 476563)
That pan is bada$$ - my old steel dry sump pan has a pinhole leak around the tubing and I have been thinking of getting another pan but having a hard time finding one that fits like my other did (it is really short and the pickup tubes sit inside). Anyway, I looked at the Olson website and I do not see that pan - is it custom? If so, I might have to give him a call and see about something similar but have it made to fit into my custom frame...

Thanks. Yes it is custom. I was working with some tight tolerances too and we (Brian Olson) and I put together a drawing and they built it to my specs in 3 weeks. Ask for Brian if you call.
My engine builder is a picky SOB and he has worked with Olson for a looong time.

intocarss 04-23-2013 05:53 AM

Pan's ON :excited: :excited: :excited: :theresa: :theresa: :theresa:

sixnina 04-23-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 476550)
Getting closer. Dan Olson pan installed.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps04f06cab.jpg

Pan looks bitchin Dave! One small step for you one giant leap for Badmotor finger!!!!:beavis: :beavis: :beavis: :beavis: :flag2: :flag2:

fleet 04-23-2013 08:06 AM

That pan is a big step furdward. http://forums.themustangsource.com/i...stirthepot.gif

Sieg 04-23-2013 08:19 AM

http://i.qkme.me/3orw2f.jpg

:D

carbuff 04-23-2013 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 476550)
Getting closer. Dan Olson pan installed.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps04f06cab.jpg

That picture makes the front of the pan look pretty deep. Are you going to have to raise the motor or do anything special to the subframe to clear?

Nice looking piece!

badmatt 04-23-2013 02:43 PM

Dave, That pan will work. box that up and send it.

dinos67's 04-23-2013 04:43 PM

after looking at your build I am going to quit while I am ahead.:confused59:


one really cool build hats off to you

tones2SS 04-23-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixnina (Post 476599)
Pan looks bitchin Dave! One small step for you one giant leap for Badmotor finger!!!!:beavis: :beavis: :beavis: :beavis: :flag2: :flag2:

HA HA! Yes indeed.
Moving forward Dave!:thumbsup:


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