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These are the ONLY brake systems that do ALL this: * Provide more braking force than a ZR1 or C7 Corvette * Have the most Rigid Calipers, Big Piston Area & 14" Aero Rotors & Hats * Designed specifically for Manual Brake Pro-Touring Cars doing "Triple Duty" * Utilizes ONE PAD for Street & Autocross with great cold bite & Track Days up to 1200° with zero fade !!! * These Pads are new "Adhesive Technology" = low dust, low squeal, long life, low cost AND don't eat up rotors! * No other brake system on the market today compares Learn more here: http://www.ronsuttonracetechnology.com/catalog/?page=94 |
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https://photos.smugmug.com/1985-Mont..._132738-XL.jpg Barney is on the now leveled rack, simulated driver weight in front seat, ride heights marked, ready for disassembly tomorrow morning... https://photos.smugmug.com/1985-Mont..._132752-XL.jpg First thing with be a test fitment of rotors and calipers installed on new ATS spindles then placed into one of the Forgeline wheels...just to be sure. Then I'll pull the springs off the shocks, pull stock spindles and steering assemblies off and start bolting all the new stuff on. Plan is to mock all steering stuff in place and spend some time cycling the suspension and getting the bumpsteer and ackerman to Dr Ron's liking...then we'll get busy putting these beautiful new brakes in place. |
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Assuming you have the 309 pads in that box, I'll be interested to hear your opinion. I have Hawk HP+ in the Camaro, ran HPS' in the Miata, and installed the 309's in another car with Brembo calipers and during the aggressive Stop Tech bedding process was very impressed with the pad's feel and performance. :thumbsup:
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The brake packages I designed utilizing StopTech ST60 calipers front, ST40 calipers rear & Stoptech's lighter, cooler running 14" AeroRotors ... are a higher performing product, with many more benefits & features ... as well as a significantly higher price tag. I didn't design these new brakes to be price competitive. I designed them to be the best possible brakes you can buy for a Pro-Touring car ... especially if the car is also used for autocross & track days. I feel these two brands of brake products appeal to different customers. The Wilwood Aerolite 6 packages are the "best bang for the buck" and the Stoptech packages I've created are the very highest level of performance braking for Pro-Touring cars. The long list of Features & Benefits my StopTech systems have over other brake systems are:
Depending on application, we sell the Wilwood Aerolite 6 front brake packages for $1819 to 1899. (Same as Jegs & Summit) My StopTech front packages run $3295 to $3495, depending on whether the application needs hubs or not. I didn't list the front hub features above, because some brake packages (like the C5/C6, Speedtech ATS, DSE, Roadster Shop, AME & others utilizing the C5/C6 mounting) don't need hubs. I’ll do that in a separate post. Continued in the next post. |
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I didn't list the front hub features in the previous post, because some brake packages (like the C5/C6, Speedtech ATS, DSE, Roadster Shop, AME & others utilizing the C5/C6 mounting) don't need hubs. For cars with regular spindles that need hubs … read on …
The list of Features & Benefits from the Hubs is pretty impressive too:
We still need to discuss hub bearings. But first we should bring everyone up to speed on the wheel bearing issue. I almost didn't design hubs & brake kits for several series of Muscle Cars from the 60's & early 70's ... as they came from the factory with tiny outer wheel/hub bearings rated under 1000# for thrust load. Most of you that know me, remember the online discussions we had about these weak, dangerous outer hub bearings a few years ago. I didn’t want to design brakes & hubs for spindle with bearings I knew would fail. Better brakes just adds to the loading. Most GM, Ford & Mopar muscle cars from the 60’s & 70’s came with outer hub bearings rated at only 917# or 922# of thrust load. Fine ... back in the day ... when these cars came with G70-14 bias ply tires & the cars struggled to pull .8G. Today, with modern tires, suspensions & brakes, we're pulling 1.4G on autocross courses & 1.6-2.0G on road courses. Yes ... in Pro-Touring cars with 315/335 TW200 tires. The thrust loads on the hub bearings are up in the 1200#-1500# range. Here is a list of cars/spindles/hubs & their outer bearings with thrust load ratings for you to ponder: Ford/Mercury:
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, all the listings above in red, I was NOT going to create hubs & brake kits for … unless I could increase the outer hub bearing size & thrust load rating. We did. I worked with Timken bearing engineers & came up with solutions for almost all of them. Here are the bearings I used, in each hub design for the applications we offer, or will offer our Triple Duty StopTech Brakes Optimized by RSRT. A. All of the cars & spindles that come with LM12649 outer bearings … simply come with the best LM12649 bearing available … Timken. These are true 1130# thrust load rated, where a lot of off brands & imports do not meet that load rating, or simply don’t have their bearings tested. B. All of the cars & spindles that come with LM12748/9 outer bearings thrust load rated at 921# … I designed new hubs that allow us to utilize the Timken LM12649 bearing, thrust load rated at 1130#. This increases their thrust load capacity by over 20%. C. All of the cars & spindles that come with LM11949 Bearing rated at 917# … I designed new hubs that allow us to use the Timken #21075 bearing, thrust load rated at … ready … 2540#. That is not a typo. It is a commonly available Timken automotive bearing. It is bigger, beefier, handles more heat & has bigger rollers with more surface area. When it’s time, you can buy replacement bearings around $20 each. This increases the bearing’s thrust load capacity by over 275%. D. All cars that utilize the C5/C6/C7 mounting, we simply suggest you utilize the stronger, higher rated C6 ZR1 or C7 hub & bearing versions. Now a really cool part … my StopTech brake packages with these superior hubs, dust caps, reusable seal mounting, ARP ½” x 3” long studs & strong(er) Timken bearings ONLY add $200 to the cost of a front brake kit! We do NOT sell these hubs separately (unless you need a replacement). If I did, they would cost $800-900 a pair. So when you’re shopping brakes, compare the big picture & I think you’ll find:
See them HERE ... Call me at 844-722-3832 Ext 3 ... or Email me HERE - Ron Sutton Ron Sutton Race Technology 11374 Amalgam Way Gold River, CA 95630 Website: RonSuttonRaceTechnology.com |
I just can't stop staring at them...
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Holy Guacamole Ron. What a detailed answer (copy and paste lol). Seriously though, good stuff, thanx for your commitment to our community.
Lance, you move yet? i miss it? |
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Obviously you can assemble these kits however you want I assume. But I cannot tell if/how to identify whether my rotors float? This would be a great feature to help stave off the purchase of a full floater on the rear of my car, although admittedly I haven't yet experienced a real problem with knock back that I'm aware of... Thanx! |
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