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Ron in SoCal 05-08-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 479172)

:lmao: :lmao:

Ok, back to carz :endhijack:

intocarss 05-08-2013 11:00 PM

GEE thanks Ron!!

Seig :mock:

Cosmo :hello:

Payton King 05-09-2013 06:15 AM

I am sorry
 
but the last few pictures had me laughing out loud

GregWeld 05-09-2013 06:28 AM

Jody --- Can you lock this thread.....

EBMC 05-09-2013 07:01 AM

I thought Id check in on this thread before I started my workday.........I wish I didnt,:shakehead: Its probably going to be like that annoying song you cant get out of your head, only visual.

Track Junky 05-09-2013 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EBMC (Post 479217)
I thought Id check in on this thread before I started my workday.........I wish I didnt,:shakehead: Its probably going to be like that annoying song you cant get out of your head, only visual.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

fleet 05-09-2013 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 479211)
Jody --- Can you lock this thread.....


Heal thy own threads first, Doc...




:woot:

intocarss 05-09-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 479211)
Jody --- Can you lock this thread.....

Don't you have a trailer to load and unload :bitchslap:

BTW



Quote:

Originally Posted by EBMC (Post 479217)
I thought Id check in on this thread before I started my workday.........I wish I didnt,:shakehead: Its probably going to be like that annoying song you cant get out of your head, only visual.

Kind of like the song from "It's a small world after all... It's a small world after all" Enjoy your day :innocent:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 479218)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice to see you cement head :welcome3:

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 479225)
Heal thy own threads first, Doc...




:woot:



:topic:

Ron in SoCal 05-09-2013 10:29 AM

"Now who can argue with that!"

"raw-rr"

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

One of the best lines in movie history!

Sieg 05-09-2013 11:05 AM

Dave - I'm sorry............:shakehead:

I should know better than to defend my "manliness" in someone elses thread after our Wednesday Night Committee Meeting at the local pub. :underchair:



intocarss 05-09-2013 11:46 AM

^^^ That's the vid that caused me to sell Big Red ^^^^

And the start of me stalking BMF :computer:

:hairpullout: :hairpullout: :hairpullout: :hairpullout:

fleet 05-09-2013 11:51 AM

It's neat to be able to go way back in time and find proof of BMF runnin'. Here's part 2. :cool: ³


fleet 05-09-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 479275)
^^^ That's the vid that caused me to sell Big Red ^^^^

And the start of me stalking BMF :computer:

:hairpullout: :hairpullout: :hairpullout: :hairpullout:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

That is the post of the day and thus winner of a free lat-g 'We give a crap' lamp.

http://cdna.tid.al/eac2047a137187010...7d6cc_600.jpeg

Flash68 05-09-2013 12:14 PM

Man I leave you guys alone for 5 minutes...... :D

Hey here is something for those still remotely interested in my car other than my main man Jer Dog. :computer:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps09483415.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...pse710c5d0.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps6a59f36a.jpg

intocarss 05-09-2013 12:18 PM

Aren't you glad i didn't stay over on that Porsche fourm where I found BMF after Youtube

And as far as the new pics PHUCKEN AWE-SOME :trophy-1302: :excited: :excited: :excited: :hapdance: :hapdance: :brix:

Payton King 05-09-2013 12:24 PM

You must have been holding out on us
 
Bet the car has been finished for months and you are just dragging us along. LOL

And no front sub frame pics? I can see that it has been installed as well

Cris@JCG 05-09-2013 12:47 PM

I don't see any Bud Lite bottles anywhere.. Is Rich working on da car? :D

Flash68 05-09-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 479275)
^^^ That's the vid that caused me to sell Big Red ^^^^

You owned and then sold the famous Big Red Camaro?? I didn't know you were famous and had all those open road race records. We have another celebrity amongst us. :G-Dub:

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 479284)
Aren't you glad i didn't stay over on that Porsche fourm where I found BMF after Youtube

And as far as the new pics PHUCKEN AWE-SOME :trophy-1302: :excited: :excited: :excited: :hapdance: :hapdance: :brix:

Porsche forum... bleh. I'll let Ron continue to lurk over there on my behalf. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 479286)
Bet the car has been finished for months and you are just dragging us along. LOL

And no front sub frame pics? I can see that it has been installed as well

Ha, nice try. Front sub hasn't been touched in a couple months.... waiting on engine to get down there so we can mock up everything before removing for powdercoat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 479294)
I don't see any Bud Lite bottles anywhere.. Is Rich working on da car? :D

Oh you know they are around. They get consumed so fast they aren't even able to be photographed. They are like sasquatch in these parts.

intocarss 05-09-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 479297)
You owned and then sold the famous Big Red Camaro?? I didn't know you were famous and had all those open road race records. We have another celebrity amongst us. :G-Dub:



Porsche forum... bleh. I'll let Ron continue to lurk over there on my behalf. :)



The other Big Red and YES she was "famous"..Famous for putting others on the trailer :hello: :topic:

And WTH is Ron doing hanging out with the air cooled people? :headscratch:

Ron in SoCal 05-09-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 479303)
The other Big Red and YES she was "famous"..Famous for putting others on the trailer :hello: :topic:

And WTH is Ron doing hanging out with the air cooled people? :headscratch:

Dave and I have a deal. He argues with the experts on corner carvers and I give the air cooled guys a hard time. Simple time management stuff. Smart, eh? :sarcasm_smiley:

intocarss 05-09-2013 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 479340)
Dave and I have a deal. He argues with the experts on corner carvers and I give the air cooled guys a hard time. Simple time management stuff. Smart, eh? :sarcasm_smiley:

You own a Baja Bug don't you

fleet 05-09-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 479366)
You own a Baja Bug don't you

:lol:


MtotheIKEo 05-09-2013 07:42 PM

Aren't the mounting tabs on the rear end for the torque arm perpendicular to how they should be?

intocarss 05-09-2013 09:10 PM

^^^ This poor guy has mistaken this for a build thread^^^

OH WAIT :idea:

Flash68 05-09-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 479340)
Dave and I have a deal. He argues with the experts on corner carvers and I give the air cooled guys a hard time. Simple time management stuff. Smart, eh? :sarcasm_smiley:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtotheIKEo (Post 479376)
Aren't the mounting tabs on the rear end for the torque arm perpendicular to how they should be?

I am not sure what you mean, but are you saying the base of the tabs should be perpendicular to the corresponding arm?

Here is mine again

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps6a59f36a.jpg

Here is a pic Jake sent of a recent install he did.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...psd0c1624a.jpg

FETorino 05-09-2013 09:50 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm the bottom one has a Watts link the guy on the top was two cheap to go that route. That is what I see.:stirthepot:

Vegas69 05-09-2013 10:08 PM

The torque arm is going to provide minimum fore and aft support and it's main function is to stabilize pinion angle. I don't see it being a problem having the tabs either way. I can see your point though, it probably would be stronger on the opposite axis since it's preventing pinion wrap.

intocarss 05-09-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 479411)
The torque arm is going to provide minimum fore and aft support and it's main function is to stabilize pinion angle. I don't see it being a problem having the tabs either way. I can see your point though, it probably would be stronger on the opposite axis since it's preventing pinion wrap.

Why you bringing logic into this thread?:headscratch:

GregWeld 05-10-2013 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 479276)
It's neat to be able to go way back in time and find proof of BMF runnin'. Here's part 2. :cool: ³





I think when I first saw this video - I still had hair.

GregWeld 05-10-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 479407)
^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm the bottom one has a Watts link the guy on the top was two cheap to go that route. That is what I see.:stirthepot:




Think of it more as..... "weight savings". Yeah! That's it!

Payton King 05-10-2013 07:19 AM

What you don't see
 
on the TA is the support rods that run from the top of the housing down to the the TA. I do see what you are saying in that you would use the support rods to set pinion angle. I would assume that Jake set pinion angle before he welded tabs on the tubes and shock/lower control arm mounts.

It may have a sperical bearing,but I would not know.

GrabberGT 05-10-2013 07:55 AM

Looks awesome. Just curious, do you know how much the torque arm itself weighs? I'd love to get mine trimmed down from 48lbs. its unsprung weight but still... :confused59:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps09483415.jpg

carbuff 05-10-2013 07:56 AM

I actually asked Dave the same question about the torque arm mounts. You can see how my JRS setup did them in this picture (the picture is upside down, so the 2 tabs on the top are where the torque arm mounts):

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps2537dbd9.jpg

There are bolts that go through the TA parallel to the axle tubes. Here's a good shot of those:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps0f13b567.jpg

Looking at the pictures of Dave's setup, I think that he's going to use the mechanism that bolts to the pinion support to set the pinion angle instead of using the rods that go to the top. I could be wrong, but that looks like what the 2 bolts through the torque arm are for. Also I don't see the tabs on top of the housing for those rods like mine has...

I am curious why Jake changed the mounting points, but I'm sure there was a good reason...

Hugger67RSSS 05-10-2013 07:59 AM

Jake sets the pinion angle into the lower trailing arm brackets when they are welded onto the rear end. As long as your shocks are plum you will be good to go.
My TA is installed the same way Dave, I'm not sure what style mount you have but I have a bracket that bolts to the pinion support to lock the rear end in place also. I know some of his older design used the two bars that Payton mentioned running to the top of the housing. I can see the bolts sticking out of your TA in front of the rear housing.

Bryan, You have the older style. His new design is double shear like mine and Dave's. I am not sure how long ago the design changed but mine was that way originally and I welded the new tabs onto the housing before I installed it. He changed the TA mount to double shear to increase strength.

Flash68 05-10-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 479407)
^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm the bottom one has a Watts link the guy on the top was two cheap to go that route. That is what I see.:stirthepot:

Ahh but why go for the full monty when it only takes the half monty to take out a little(not) Torino? :bitchslap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 479434)
Think of it more as..... "weight savings". Yeah! That's it!

Greg, you're smarter than you look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 479447)
on the TA is the support rods that run from the top of the housing down to the the TA. I do see what you are saying in that you would use the support rods to set pinion angle. I would assume that Jake set pinion angle before he welded tabs on the tubes and shock/lower control arm mounts.

It may have a sperical bearing,but I would not know.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabberGT (Post 479458)
Looks awesome. Just curious, do you know how much the torque arm itself weighs? I'd love to get mine trimmed down from 48lbs. its unsprung weight but still... :confused59:

Thank you. Have not weighed the torque arm itself. The torque arm is mostly unsprung but not all of it. And Jake's question/response to this is: Do you really want to have the torque arm break over a 5 extra pounds that are low on the car and between the wheels and axles? I agree with that response. I am personally not building a 2200 lb race car here with carbon fiber everything and aluminum this and that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 479459)
I actually asked Dave the same question about the torque arm mounts. You can see how my JRS setup did them in this picture (the picture is upside down, so the 2 tabs on the top are where the torque arm mounts):

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps2537dbd9.jpg

There are bolts that go through the TA parallel to the axle tubes. Here's a good shot of those:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps0f13b567.jpg

Looking at the pictures of Dave's setup, I think that he's going to use the mechanism that bolts to the pinion support to set the pinion angle instead of using the rods that go to the top. I could be wrong, but that looks like what the 2 bolts through the torque arm are for. Also I don't see the tabs on top of the housing for those rods like mine has...

I am curious why Jake changed the mounting points, but I'm sure there was a good reason...

As Aarik mentioned, you have the earlier single shear it appears. And you are correct I am using the double shear with the pinion support bolted. The configuration I have has been tested and proven to withstand countless track days at 700hp level so that sounded good for me.

Also, those 2 bars that run to the top of the housing are super tight in a first gen Jake says. More room available in a 2nd gen as Bryan has, and even Bryan had some work to do to make that fit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugger67RSSS (Post 479461)
Jake sets the pinion angle into the lower trailing arm brackets when they are welded onto the rear end. As long as your shocks are plum you will be good to go.
My TA is installed the same way Dave, I'm not sure what style mount you have but I have a bracket that bolts to the pinion support to lock the rear end in place also. I know some of his older design used the two bars that Payton mentioned running to the top of the housing. I can see the bolts sticking out of your TA in front of the rear housing.

Bryan, You have the older style. His new design is double shear like mine and Dave's. I am not sure how long ago the design changed but mine was that way originally and I welded the new tabs onto the housing before I installed it. He changed the TA mount to double shear to increase strength.

Sounds like we have the same configuration, Aarik. What power level will you be at?

I like that Jake's torque arm has been through destructive testing (unintended, and on the track!) and between Telly's TA, Vinny's 69 and Jake's former (now Vinny's) AIX 2nd gen, he has come up with changes and upgrades over time to improve it and provide options. This is a big reason I preferred and chose this setup.

badmatt 05-10-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 479526)
I am personally not building a 2200 lb race car here with carbon fiber everything and aluminum this and that.

WHAT?!

FETorino 05-13-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 479526)
Ahh but why go for the full monty when it only takes the half monty to take out a little(not) Torino? :bitchslap:




I am personally not building a 2200 lb race car here with carbon fiber everything and aluminum this and that.


Are you building anything? I don't see any progress just some recycled old photos. Didn't you buy that Jakes stuff like 9 months ago, when you bought that running motor?:stirthepot:

Need something built to beat that little Torino:popcorn2:

intocarss 05-13-2013 05:40 PM

Little And Torino Do Not Go Together

fleet 05-13-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 479985)
Are you building anything? I don't see any progress just some recycled old photos. Didn't you buy that Jakes stuff like 9 months ago, when you bought that running motor?:stirthepot:

Need something built to beat that little Torino:popcorn2:

Another good weekend with the Bronco, huh?

:D

Flash68 05-13-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badmatt (Post 479530)
WHAT?!

Nothing left in the budget for carbon fiber. :peepwall:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 479985)
Are you building anything? I don't see any progress just some recycled old photos. Didn't you buy that Jakes stuff like 9 months ago, when you bought that running motor?:stirthepot:

Need something built to beat that little Torino:popcorn2:

:getout:

Quote:

Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 479987)
Little And Torino Do Not Go Together

Yougotthatstraight Jack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 479990)
Another good weekend with the Bronco, huh?

:D

:lol:

Or maybe it was his Vette. ;)


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