I hear ya Ron!! You remember years ago here in Ca they wanted catalytic converters on fast food places lolol

Not understanding why this is a bad thing.

If you don't deserve to own a gun then you shouldn't and they should take it from you..BUT IMOHO this opens a door for them to say "hey Jer you got 3 speeding tickets, you're not responsable enough to own a gun" and take them. Not to mention what other doors this opens

And for the record I would never ever speed on city streets
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If you don't have the right to own a gun then you can't buy one legally. They need to put teeth behind the laws in place that punish people for attempting to do so.

I agree and your example is 100% spot on. It sounds good, but liberals love change and that means the rules will constantly change (if they get their way). One day you are a perfect citizen who is allowed to own a gun under their rules, the next day your not.

Only recently have I started to understand why groups like the NRA say "F YOU, not one change".

I feel ya, but the article is somewhat misleading. There is no new gun confiscation legislation. The only thing SB140 does is re-assign 24 million dollars to the Department of Justice to fund a program which has already been in existence for 6 years. It is called the Armed Prohibited Persons System or APPS. It is a program not a law and it is meant to go after those persons who at one point were legally registered firearms owners who failed to turn over their firearms after they became ineligible to own those firearms.

Here's some more in California. Some won't make it into law, but they just keep trying.


Earlierthis week, several anti-gun bills and one extreme anti-hunting bill passed intheir respective committees and will be next referred to their respectiveCommittee on Appropriations. Hearing dates have not been set in thosecommittees and your NRA will inform you of those dates when they becomeavailable.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Assembly Bill 711(Rendon) BANS the use of all lead ammunition for hunting. AB 711passed in the state Assembly Committeeon Water, Parks and Wildlife by a 9 to 5 vote.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Assembly Bill 231(Ting) expands the law for Criminal Storage of Firearms and childaccess. AB 231 passed in the state AssemblyCommittee on Public Safety by a 5 to 2 vote.



Thefollowing bills all passed in the state Senate Committee on Public Safety by a5 to 2 vote.

Thefollowing Senators opposed the below anti-gun bills: Senators: Joel Andersonand Steve Knight. The following Senators supported the below anti-gunbills: Senator Loni Hancock, Marty Block, Kevin de Leon, Carol Liu andDarrell Steinberg.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 47(Yee) expands the definition of “assault weapons” to BAN the futuresale of rifles that have been designed/sold and are equipped to use the“bullet button” or similar device, requires NEW “assaultweapon” registration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currentlypossessed to retain legal possession in the future, and subjects thesefirearms to all other “assault weapons” restrictions.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 53(DeLeon) requires persons to buy an annual ammunition purchase permit,requires the registration and thumbprint of the purchaser for each ammunitionpurchase, and bans online and mail order sales of ammunition toCalifornians.

Senate Bill 108(Yee) requires mandatory locked storage of firearms within a locked houseregardless of whether anyone is present.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 293(DeSaulnier) BANS the sale of conventional handguns, ifthe state Department of Justice approves the sale of “OwnerAuthorized – Smart” handgun technology.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 299(DeSaulnier) turns victims of firearm theft into criminals for failing toreport the loss of their firearm within 48 hours.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 374(Steinberg) expands the definition of "assault weapons" to BANthe future transfer of all semi-auto rifles that accept detachablemagazines (including those chambered for rimfire cartridges) and virtually allsemi-auto rifles with fixed magazines (primarily those chambered for rimfirecartridges), requires NEW "assault weapon" registration, requiresregistration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currently possessed toretain legal possession in the future, and subjects these firearms to all other"assault weapon" restrictions.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 396(Hancock) BANS the POSSESSION of any magazine with a capacityto accept more than ten cartridges,including currently legally possessed"grandfathered large capacity”magazines.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 567(Jackson) expands the definition of shotgun for “short-barreled shotguns”that are illegal to own.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png Senate Bill 755(Wolk) expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm.



Yesterday,anti-gun AssemblyBill 169 (Dickinson), which BANS the sale of handguns not on thestate-approved roster, passed in the Assembly Public Safety Committeeby a 12 to 5 vote. AB 169 will now be sent to the full Assembly for consideration.
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California is fricking crazy. :lostmarbles: Why do so many sane people still live there? Seriously the weather isn't that nice!

I often wonder the same thing Curtis!!:lostmarbles:

I was born and raised and would not live anywhere else. I guess if I love it I will put up with the legalities, trust me, most CA laws will eventually be nation wide anyways. And don't give me that earthquakes garbage. If your on the Earth your gonna get it. We are built for it and anything over 6.0 is a rare occurance. I don't even get out of bed for them 4.0 quakes.

The constant high pressure lingering is phenomenal.

I will take that bet sir. And as long as California fiscal situation continues to get worse their laws won't spread as far and wide as they think.