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Sieg 11-07-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 445208)
That is great to hear that Norwood is soon going to be back in one piece.
:thumbsup:

Can you explain a bit about the valve you have in your brakes besides a proportioning valve? I think it was a metering valve that you said applies the rear just a bit prior to the fronts.

I'm not sure how "track" oriented that mod is and if there are some negatives I should be aware of. If you have a sketch of your plumbing I would love to see it. As I recall we have mostly the same components.

Thanks!
Robert

Thanks Robert.

The stock metering valve is retained when using drum brakes, it directs pressure to the rear brakes slightly ahead of front brake.

The red valve is a 10 lbs residual valve. Here's Wilwoods description:
Wilwood ten pound residual pressure valves retain a minimum brake line pressure to help eliminate excessive pedal travel in drum brake systems. With drum brakes, a ten pound valve is used to compensate for return spring tension and maintain wheel cylinder sealing in the drums. Residual Pressure Valves are made from billet aluminum and color coded for easy identification.

Here's the proportioning valve, the drawing shows the frt/rear in/out so you can figure out the plumbing: http://www.wilwood.com/MasterCylinde...emno=260-11179

Roberts68 11-07-2012 04:47 PM

It is all coming back to me... slowly.:P

That wilwood link either did not play nice with my mobile or just didn't like me. I got your basic Wilwood product search page.

I have the red valve for rear drums you mentioned. I have the Wilwood combination distribution block and Proportioning valve. You lost me at stock metering valve retained.

Where does that typically reside? Mine was a manual drum/drum car and is a '68 if that makes a difference.

I thought way back months ago when I had noticed our similar parts (albeit mine for "Someday" reside in boxes yet) I could have sworn you had a brass colored aftermarket metering valve... or at least I remember looking one up in Speedway. Maybe I did not see it on Norwood?.. or maybe after 40 I just make $hit up to confuse myself and share it with others.:_paranoid

WSSix 11-08-2012 03:22 PM

Congrats on getting the car running Scott :thumbsup: As frustrating as it was, I'm glad it was something simple.

Sieg 11-08-2012 05:48 PM

Robert,

Your drum/drum car probably didn't have a metering valve.

Check this Wilwood proportioning valve, it has metered valving for drums.........if you plan on staying with the drums this would be a cleaner installation than using the GM metering valve which is over $100.
http://www.wilwood.com/MasterCylinde...emno=260-11322

Here is a GM metering valve:
http://www.classicindustries.com/camaro/parts/pv68.html

Sieg 11-08-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 445438)
Congrats on getting the car running Scott :thumbsup: As frustrating as it was, I'm glad it was something simple.

Thanks Trey..........frustratingly simple. http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums...confused58.gif

Vince@Meanstreets 11-08-2012 06:39 PM

How does it drive? : D

Sieg 11-08-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 445477)
How does it drive? : D

Loaded into the trailer last night to go back to the shop to get the front clip reinstalled, exhaust connected, and a few other misc. items. It felt pretty good feathering the clutch up the ramp and into the trailer. Neighbors probably thought it was a little loud though. :D

Roberts68 11-09-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445467)
Robert,
Your drum/drum car probably didn't have a metering valve.

That is a distinct possibility I would go along with. I do have a distribution block that was off the master but it did not appear to be any more than a junction block to me.
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445467)

That is the same combo-prop valve I have at Tobin's recommendation. We had spoke of your car before I ever saw it here. I actually originally found your thread in a Google image search for prop valve mounting ideas.

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 445477)
How does it drive? : D

You may have more willpower than me... or possibly Vince. Either he was teasing you or like me he would have been tempted take at least a brief rip with open wheels given the chance. You'll be flogging it again in no time though, as I prepare my snowblower.:rolleyes:

intocarss 11-09-2012 12:25 PM

Your name is Scott?? :yes:

Sieg 11-09-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 445600)
That is the Wilwood 260-11322 link again rather than the GM part. Don't sweat it on my account though. just FYI

http://www.classicindustries.com/camaro/parts/pv68.html
I edited my post so someone doesn't get messed up, could do the same in the quote? :)

If you have that Wilwood prop valve it's has the metering delay built in so you're good to go. I didn't want that one because I'm going to rear disc in the future.


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