http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f6340 great article debunking the fat is bad myth

Hey Todd, so i thought you had the diviated septum surgery? No? well im glad you found a nose spray that works. Can you elaborate? ( i know that only certain "potions" only work on certain people) but this news encourages me.

thanx, Mike

I didn't read the entire article but I think it goes back to balance in your diet. Saturated fat raises your HDL (Good Cholesterol) and LDL (Bad Cholesterol) at the same time. If your blood work proves your Cholesterol levels to be on the low side of the range, you will be just fine.

Where I disagree is with the philosophy that to much saturated fat is not a health concern. It goes well beyond heart disease.

Mike, I was scheduled and the doctor set my sirens off. I got a 2nd opinion and it saved me from getting butchered. I'm at about 70% blockage now which isn't great but my new doctor isn't recommending surgery. I use Zetona but it hasn't worked as well since I've quit taking an allergy pill for congestion. Still, my nose is better than it's been in a long time.

The number one cancer for men in America: Prostate Cancer

I've seen statistics that state we have a 50% chance of contracting this cancer in our lifetime. Seems pretty excessive?

http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/data/men.htm

While it's true that their are genetic factors that make it more likely for you personally, studies have found that lifestyle and diet are also factors. Factors that may prevent cancer all together.

When you look around at American society and the alarming number of overweight or obese men which is from poor nutrition and health habits, it's makes you wonder how large this roll plays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQJMB...XdyLz-rbW7-k3n

Carbs and Sugar are the devil. Fat for the most part are better than u think. Read the book Grain Brain.

Cholesterol is needed for brain health and LDL is needed to transport cholesterol to your brain.

If you guys want to reduce your risk of Alzheimers and diabetes, protein and more fat, less cards and sugar including fruit sugar.

Heart disease is about inflamation in your body, not cholesterol.

Sugar creates inflamation.

People gain weight from carbs, sugar, gluten and not fat in their diets. Cutting out fat makes it worse, because you fill the void with carbs and fruit sugars.

The more insulin in your system from sugar causes the body to store fat.

That in turn causes inflamation in your body which creates many diseases and sickness.

There is a huge correlation between diabetes and Alzheimers at an alarming rate.

I think we would all agree that loosing your brain function is the scariest thing.

Good morning Stuart, Nice to see you participating.

Our bodies make Cholesterol naturally as it is vital to body function. That's why two people with a similar diet can have vastly different levels of Cholesterol. In the China Study, they found those with the lowest levels of Cholesterol (Many below US standards) to have the least amount of Western diseases.

In regards to fats, we need them for energy production and body functions. It's been proven that a diet high in fat vs. low in fat doesn't make a substantial difference in weight gain. It does make some difference.

There are 4 main fats: Trans, Saturated, Monounsaturated, Polyunsaturated

Trans: Many fried foods and processed foods.

Saturated: Animals products and very few plant based foods.

Monounsaturated: Olive oil, Avocado

Polyunsaturated: Fish oil

It can't be disputed that Trans fats are 100% BAD. Animal fats have a higher tendency of disease than plant based.

The major problem with sugar is refined foods in this country. It's also soda. High fructose corn syrup has ramped up this epidemic dramatically. Oh yeah, a majority of corn is a GMO from Monsanto. That means you soda and processed foods are a double whammy, processed and genetically modified. Refined foods are a triple whammy in many instances. Trans fat, high fructose corn syrup, and genetically modified! And we wonder why Americans are so unhealthy!

My argument against fruit consumption being a health problem is two fold. Fruits are low on the glycemic index which is the tendency for a rise in blood sugar. Also, how many people do you know that eat to much fruit vs. to many sodas or twinkies?

I could go on for days. My studies and how I feel have led me to a whole food/plant based diet for the majority and animal based for a minority.

I'd like to add to my Prostate Cancer post from last night that I've seen over and over that Dairy is the largest dietary negative for prostate cancer due to the high amount of calcium. Look at the studies or pick up your multi vitamin and look at the ingredients. A majority of men's multi's have very little calcium.

Have a great day....

Wow, very interesting thread. It is pretty cool to see a bunch of "car guys" talking about eating and living healthy.

My deal started a little over 2 years ago now. I was 45 years old, 6'0" and weighed about 180 pounds, pretty healthy I thought, just a little bit of a spare tire forming. Went for my annual physical, nailed the EKG, Stress test, everything looked good...until the blood work came back.

July 2011
Cholesterol 179
HDL Direct 32
Triglyceride 191
LDL Calculated 109

The Doc was mainly concerned about my Triglyceride levels, wanted to put me on a Statin. I refused and started a workout regimen, 30 minutes on treadmill 5 days a week, started drinking 8 oz of Grape juice a day (to raise good cholesterol) and taking an Omega supplement once a day.


Went back for more blood work in Oct 2011
Cholesterol 218
HDL Direct 29
Non-HDL Cholesterol 199
Triglyceride 195
LDL Calculated 150

This pissed me off enough that I stopped working out (aggravating knee trouble contributed as well), but continued with grape juice and omega supplement.


In Jan 2013 went back for more blood work
Cholesterol 243
HDL Direct 34
Non-HDL Cholesterol 209
Triglyceride 291
LDL Calculated 151

Again, the doc stressed that I need to be on a Statin, diagnosed me as "pre-diabetic". Well, just about everyone in my family has been diagnosed as "pre-diabetic" at one time or another due to Triglyceride levels, yet none of them have developed actual heart disease.

The wife and I sat down and decided to change the way we live, drastically. First although we thought that we ate pretty healthy, we reevaluated everything we consume and took out anything that would be considered "processed food". We committed to a fresh fruit, fresh vegetable and sensible protein diet, morning noon and night. We learned about better fish to eat, not just any fish, we learned about adding almonds to the mix, we learned ways of cooking food in a healthier manner. And the wife quit her high stress job and took some time off to just chill and spend a lot of time running to the grocery store for fresh food and making my lunches for me. I've always packed a lunch, but now my lunches have bags of carrots, cut fresh green peppers, nuts, and a light sammich in them instead of jello pudding, applesauce, and cookies along with a big ol honking sammich in there.

We also researched omegas...and learned a TON. I'm convinced the Omega supplement I was taking was wreaking havoc with my system. We found a supplement that was better fit and I started taking it once a day and I quit the grape juice

It's a life change for sure, but one for the better. I lost close to 10 pounds pretty quickly, lost about an inch off my waist and my spare tire went away...and I was eating MORE than I was before portion size, meaning I wasn't starving myself to do this. After 3 months I went back in for more blood work.

May 2013
Cholesterol 211
HDL Direct 29
Triglyceride 184 (the big one)
LDL Calculated 145

Ir was unbelievable to me that just a strict dietary change could lower my Triglyceride level over 100 points in a 3 month period.

You'll never guess what the doc said... "you still need to start taking a statin..." I just glared at her and she understood.

Anyway, it's 5 or 6 months later now, we are still on the "healthy eating kick", weight has stayed right at 170#s or so, feel great and I haven't been back for any more blood work. I wear a fitbit to track my footsteps per day, and try to keep as active as I can, but I don't see me becoming any sort of a workout warrior. My schedule and sore knees just don't fit into that plan. But I like the healthy living and seriously...it is becoming more and more regular all of the time and hopefully society as a whole will head further down this road which will just give us more and more good choices of food instead of more of the crap that is in the center sections of the grocery stores.

Good for you. Statins are terrible drugs. Find a new doctor.

We have been brainwashed by these low fat diets.

Eat good fats and keep sugar/ carbs way down and you will see vast changes in not only how you feel but reduce your chance of disease and sickness.

The game is changing fellas.

What is interesting is as we have been brainwashed that fat is bad we have been making diabetes, Alzheimer's, and obesity skyrocket at alarming rates. The body needs good fats and the brain is mostly fat and relies on cholesterol for normal nerve function.