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Vegas69 02-10-2012 01:19 PM

:thumbsup: :D

Flash68 02-10-2012 02:18 PM

That would not have been appreciated by your fancy aluminum block. :wow:

Vegas69 02-10-2012 08:54 PM

I'm figuring it would have cost me a valve seat, valve, pushrod, maybe a head, piston, and block sleeve. Oh ya, a complet rebuild and while I'm at it... Jason, what do you think about a set of them CNC AFR heads, a little bigger cam, how about a single plane intake and new hood? Might as well throw fuel injection on it, right. Carl, send me a vaporworx tank. While it's out, I may as well upgrade to the t56 magnum. :lol: Clearly I'm exxagerating but that .10 cent part about cost me BIG BUCKS.

Vegas69 02-12-2012 06:29 PM

Went out and ran with my local SCCA today. Pissed on me a little on the way out there and during my last fastest run of the day. My front shock adjustment completely changed the car. It's never had this much front grip. :thumbsup: :D It caught me by surprise. Brakes were great as well.

coolwelder62 02-12-2012 06:35 PM

Lookin good,Sound's awesome.Very smooth.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Track Junky 02-12-2012 07:09 PM

Thats good news. Your going to need that grip come September :unibrow:

Just razzin' ya bro, cool vid :thumbsup:

cencalc6 02-12-2012 07:34 PM

Your car sounds really Nice

WicKeD_SS 02-12-2012 07:43 PM

BAD ASS! Sounds awesome! :thumbsup:

Lenie 02-12-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WicKeD_SS (Post 395189)
BAD ASS! Sounds awesome! :thumbsup:

Ya, I make those sounds all the time w/my lips to entertain myself! Choices are limited you know:rofl:

fleet 02-12-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 395176)
Lookin good,Sound's awesome.Very smooth.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


X2; that was impressive.

Long live the BBC. :cool:

Vegas69 02-12-2012 08:28 PM

Appreciate it guys:cheers: It's the best car I've ever had for an autocross. I'm really looking forward to the big track.

awr68 02-12-2012 08:57 PM

Fun video Todd! It's great to see ya use the car so much!! :cheers:

Flash68 02-12-2012 10:19 PM

Looked pretty slow to me. Was there something stuck underneath the gas pedal? :(

Sieg 02-13-2012 06:42 AM

Nice run......that motor sounds proper. :D :thumbsup:

mrr1999 02-13-2012 11:36 AM

Looks great, Todd. Front of the car looks like it is digging in now.

Rybar 02-13-2012 12:54 PM

Cool vid Todd, loved hearing it bounce off the limiter :thumbsup:

Bucketlist2012 02-13-2012 03:14 PM

Very,Very,Nice...Just jacks me up even more...

Great run...:cheers:

waynieZ 02-13-2012 05:44 PM

Nice vid Todd it looks like its running smooth.

WicKeD_SS 02-13-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenie (Post 395195)
Ya, I make those sounds all the time w/my lips to entertain myself! Choices are limited you know:rofl:

Hmm guess im not the only one that dose that as well :_paranoid

Kendall Burleson 02-14-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WicKeD_SS (Post 395373)
Hmm guess im not the only one that dose that as well :_paranoid

I had to stop doing the lip thing my lips were getting a lot of wear in the center:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

chr2002ca 02-14-2012 03:03 PM

Solid. :thumbsup: Thanks for sharing the vid Todd. Look forward to seeing and hearing Payback in person soon at RTTC.

RicerwannaB 02-15-2012 02:56 PM

I just spent 3 days on and off reading all 263 pages, awesome build and a great thread! Lots of worthless, I mean priceless info! The car looks great, its a breath of fresh air around here to see something BBC powered, that hangs with the best of them all day. Gives me hope for my Pontiac project, now if only I can get my hands on an aluminum block! :thumbsup:

Vegas69 02-15-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerwannaB (Post 395708)
I just spent 3 days on and off reading all 263 pages, awesome build and a great thread! Lots of worthless, I mean priceless info! The car looks great, its a breath of fresh air around here to see something BBC powered, that hangs with the best of them all day. Gives me hope for my Pontiac project, now if only I can get my hands on an aluminum block! :thumbsup:

:lol: Thanks man, I'll have to go back through it and read it myself one day. Maybe I'll write a book labeled, "Building a Pro Touring car for dummies". :lol:

In all seriousness, there are some valuable lessons to be learned at my expense.

waynieZ 02-15-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 395716)
:lol: Thanks man, I'll have to go back through it and read it myself one day. Maybe I'll write a book labeled, "Building a Pro Touring car for dummies". :lol:

In all seriousness, there are some valuable lessons to be learned at my expense.

Cool idea, and this dummy will take the first copy :lol:

WicKeD_SS 02-15-2012 06:34 PM

Ill buy the second! :lol:

Sieg 02-15-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 395716)
In all seriousness, there are some valuable lessons to be learned at my expense.

Thank You - I've learned a lot of directly applicable information from this thread thanks to the style and caliber of your build. There's so many exceptional and exotic builds on this site but your car, when all is said and done, is one of the few I'd really like to have in my garage. Keep using it hard, that's where the payback is. :thumbsup:

Vegas69 02-15-2012 09:01 PM

I agree, my car is not out of anybody's league to build and that's what makes it interesting for most guys. Actually getting out there and using it certainly doesn't hurt. The continued tweaking is probably what separates my car from most. I'm certainly not done but it's just little annoyances and tweaks at this point. I really want to get the most out of the car and I still feel I can make some strides and achieve better performance goals. I don't think it's possible to build a perfect car OR buy one for that matter. I really do enjoy the tuning and tweaking and the small gains they allow.

Sieg 02-15-2012 09:34 PM

Well said Todd. Keep the fire burning! Payback is a real asset to the 69 Camaro performance enthusiast. Reality is it could be considered one of our era's naturally aspirated benchmarks. :thumbsup:

Vegas69 02-15-2012 10:19 PM

I'm not there yet but I don't think there is any doubt that I have one of the best all around BIG BLOCK:unibrow: Camaros on the planet.

Getting a really good pass down the 1/4 is a goal of mine this year. I've done a best of 11.95 et and 120mph. I'll be happy with sub 11.6 and around 123-125. With a better burn out, quicker shifting trans, better weather, I think it's there. Close anyway...The best times I've seen from 1st gen car in handling trim is around 11.4-11.5 at 123-125. Believe that was Stielow.

Sieg 02-15-2012 10:34 PM

Maybe the gear ratios in the T56 Mag close ratio will also help. :unibrow:

Flash68 02-15-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 395819)
I'm not there yet but I don't think there is any doubt that I have one of the best all around BIG BLOCK:unibrow: Camaros on the planet.

Getting a really good pass down the 1/4 is a goal of mine this year. I've done a best of 11.95 et and 120mph. I'll be happy with sub 11.6 and around 123-125. With a better burn out, quicker shifting trans, better weather, I think it's there. Close anyway...The best times I've seen from 1st gen car in handling trim is around 11.4-11.5 at 123-125. Believe that was Stielow.

I like the benchmark and goal, but Red Devil ran a 10.91 @ 130. You better get to work on that heads/cam/intake swap. :unibrow:

http://www.redlineoil.com/news_article.aspx?id=135

Vegas69 02-16-2012 07:41 AM

I don't think that's a real world spec.

Payton King 02-16-2012 10:34 AM

I will have to look for the video link
 
but Ron Schwarz in his widebody Mustang ran 10.96 @ 134 on BFG KDW's on a cold track. I know it is not a 1st gen, but it is 3400 lbs and make 573 at the wheels with the LS7. Figured weight and HP was close to your car.

Did Rupp run a low to mid 11?

Flash68 02-16-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 395853)
I don't think that's a real world spec.

Was that on slicks? I couldn't find anything on that...

And what does your MPH translate to at, say, coastal elevation in Socal?

Vegas69 02-16-2012 12:10 PM

You would have to check with Mark. The best I've seen in in the 11.4 range in the videos and magazine coverage. The car is more than capable of mid 10's but not on street tires.

Ron's car is a freak of nature. I don't think anybody understands those numbers. :unibrow:

Rupp ran 11.3 to 11.5 of Mickey Thompson drag radials in Pomona between 123-125.

I don't want to start a pissing match on this in my thread. I am simply saying that I know I can run faster with more experience.:lol:

skatinjay27 02-16-2012 12:24 PM

when it comes to drag racing your 60' times play a BIG role,and todds suck!:lol:

CarlC 02-16-2012 08:22 PM

The best part of that video is the first 1:20 ;)

Vegas69 02-16-2012 08:38 PM

ROCKY V:_party: You, me, my thoroughbred and your cream puff.

Payton King 02-17-2012 06:56 AM

You are taking me completely wrong
 
I was using those as an example..I think you are under estimating what your car can do. The launch is everything about turning a good time as stated above. You just need some time to see what you car likes when you are bringing it out. I don't remember what the air and track temp was like the last time you ran, but your car has more in it.

Sieg 02-17-2012 07:07 AM

Just suspension adjustments that will allow it to transfer weight should drop times. Seat of the pants says reduce front rebound and rear compression, and maybe a lighter rear spring. Then put a chute on the rear just to confuse people. :D


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