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rixtrix1 08-17-2018 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 681988)
The seat is custom and bolted in..... and I purposely had the bars built for 5' 5" or less.... Lurch missed it by a full foot.

LOL

Good thing I love him.

Funny, Greg. Go 2.0!

Panteracer 08-17-2018 03:03 PM

Dirt missile 2
 
Gregg,
You can always cut bars out
I had to do that to reposition the damn seat
in the Mustang I sold to Chet.... was so far
forward originally my knee kept hitting the door
handle opening it when shifting

Good to hear Speedtech is taking over

Bob

FETorino 08-17-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 681988)
The seat is custom and bolted in..... and I purposely had the bars built for 5' 5" or less.... Lurch missed it by a full foot.

LOL

Good thing I love him.

I thought you did that to keep me from being able to record a lap time in it. :shakehead:

It will be good to see you get it sorted out and more importantly see YOU drive it. I doubt that it will be that big of a project. It has some decent bones.

raustinss 08-17-2018 03:49 PM

Please post all kinds of pics ... you know so you can rub it in our faces .. look at me as that other guy put it . I love living thru other peoples builds and having it rubbed in my face . .... wait .. what ?! Lol

GregWeld 08-17-2018 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 682000)
I thought you did that to keep me from being able to record a lap time in it. :shakehead:

It will be good to see you get it sorted out and more importantly see YOU drive it. I doubt that it will be that big of a project. It has some decent bones.



The docs gave me 18 to 24 months --- I've burned thru 7 of those already and the car is still sitting in California -- and will take a few weeks or months depending on what decisions are made and what I want changed.... so figure that burns a year..... You can see why TIME is important to me. If I can't drive it - I'd like to at least see the SOB run some serious laps and know I succeeded. Me driving it is more of a pipe dream now - just that much further away now. F it - it is what it is....

FETorino 08-17-2018 09:15 PM

Well. You are healthy enough and capable of driving it now.
The oiling issue is a quick fix for somebody who knows LS motors.
The suspension is already more competent than you.
Just sort the motor and drive the dam thing. Maybe some additional strengthening of the LCAs and run it.

DBasher 08-17-2018 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 682021)
Well. You are healthy enough and capable of driving it now.
The oiling issue is a quick fix for somebody who knows LS motors.
The suspension is already more competent than you.
Just sort the motor and drive the dam thing. Maybe some additional strengthening of the LCAs and run it.

Don’t forget to cut the cowl back and vent the hood....Maybe toss a couple more sheet metal screws in the taillights so they don’t fall out, lol
What a turd! An easily fixed turd...You’ll be on track before you know it.

GregWeld 08-18-2018 06:35 AM

...... she's a turd alright! I've owned similar in the past - mostly bought off FleaBay sight unseen. They were a little less expensive than this one... LOL


There is so much more "wrong" here - that doesn't meet the litmus test.

#1 - Blowing oil out of the breather (same issue from June T&T day)

#2 - Blowing oil out of the valve cover (same issue from June T&T day)

#3 - Overheating/possible hurt cylinder already (30 laps?)

#4 - Various and many electrical issues

#5 - Safety concerns of Sutton designed "Taco" Lower control arms

#6 - Safety concerns over catastrophic failure of various links in De-coupled Three link

#7 - Body fit and finish (possibly unsalvageable)

I now have come to the conclusion that the ONLY REASON FOR A DECOUPLED THREE LINK REAR --- is to create DEPENDENCY on Ron Sutton for set up - for advice going forward - and for an escape route for him - when sh!t happens with it -- he can simply claim "you must have done something wrong".

I'm having a friend that built many chassis and raced Trans Am cars and many other types... take a look at trying to understand the pluses and minuses of this style rear. So far --- and these are not new folks, they've been around for a long time in various versions --- the prevailing view is "WHY?" -- it's been described as "BUSY" -- "adds complication and parts without any advantages" -- "failure of the acell and decel links causes catastrophic failure when the pinion is free to rotate to the sky".... in other words -- it's more SUTTON SECRET SAUCE that is mostly hype/bullsh!t and dependence building (on him).

So -- when you take your crap to the track -- look around -- see what others are running -- you WILL NOT find ANYONE running J hook LCA's and you won't find anyone else with a decoupled 3 link..... Which means -- you can't walk over to the guy 3 trailers down and discuss set up or nuances. NOPE -- you're going to have to call mister Secret Sauce -- and maybe he gets back to you and maybe he just opens his mouth and more salesman sauce oozes out. The Instructions - which just finally came out this week (people have waited months or a year + for these) -- and my guy says -- "For what it's worth, from my point of view I see a lot of vagueness in the explanation of how it actually affects the instant centers and a lot of steps that need to be tuned by "feel"."

Can you all hear that giant sucking sound??? Sorry for all of you that are in this together. We shall live and learn.

DOOM 08-18-2018 07:05 AM

Greg if Blake needs hands for help getting that body straightened out just let me know I'll be more than happy to go down and spend a few days to help out. I really wanna see you drive this car. Your time line just hit me like a ton of bricks !!!!:(

GregWeld 08-18-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 682036)
Greg if Blake needs hands for help getting that body straightened out just let me know I'll be more than happy to go down and spend a few days to help out. I really wanna see you drive this car. Your time line just hit me like a ton of bricks !!!!:(



Thanks buddy! I know you'd be first one there to help.... and I love you for that!


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