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tjbruning 12-18-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOM (Post 184134)
TJ. Is your patch TIG or MIG:question:
Mario

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68protouring454 (Post 184138)
the only way to metal finish a but welded panel like bruning is tig, its looks like there using reg filler, but silicon bronze works very well and keeps the heat down when welding and metal finishing

Tig. Mig welding has its place (not trying to sound like a tig or bust snob), but not for light gauge sheet metal work.

Tim used silicon bronze filler on some of the thin areas around the quarter skin. The patch was fit and fusion tacked in place. Very little filler rod was needed. The upper section above that patch was also replaced right below the window area.

tjbruning 12-18-2008 03:18 PM

How much would it cost a body man to make this panel flat with filler?

inner fender removed
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6...ates002cz7.jpg

back side
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6...ates004wu6.jpg

or this?

new panel - still in the works... (There is a brace tacked in place supporting the fender mounting flange)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6...fender2xb8.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9...fender4cg4.jpg

back side radius corner
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1...erbackswk4.jpg

rwhite692 12-18-2008 03:39 PM

TJ those look fantastic, nice job!

DOOM 12-18-2008 04:56 PM

Thanx for the reply TJ ! I never tig welded before only mig at my body shop . I have alot to learn. But I never mess with something I do'nt know . Thats why I have MCC doing my floor and nine inch housing on my 69 .Some things you need to leave to the pros.I agree with what you said '' IT TAKES MORE TIME FOR YOU TO UNDO MY SCREW UPS THEN ITS GOING TO COST ME MORE'' just leave it alone if you do'nt know what your doing!!!!!!!
Mario

mazspeed 12-18-2008 05:34 PM

I'm happy to see Ned's car at a proper place. The old metal work looked bad.

rjsjea 12-18-2008 05:48 PM

I was at Bruning Auto Design for a couple hours today and the work that was done previous to being there does not meet anyone's standards.

It looks worse in person than in the pics......sorry Ned. There is no way that any customer should have had to pay anything for what was done by Race Rodz.

I think it's great that Ned hasn't given up on this car. :thumbsup:


-Rob

dhutton 12-19-2008 05:46 AM

This thread is both satisfying and humbling for me. I get some small degree of satisfaction thinking that my amateur efforts are better than the original work done on the car and very humbling knowing that I will never, ever, be able to do the quality of work that is being done on the car now. Amazing work, even more so when you consider the starting point.

Don

Ketzer 12-19-2008 08:06 AM

I've been cussing some of my own patch-panel work all week, seeing the before pics here makes me feel a little better about my own efforts. Sorry, but that stuff really is awful.

DRJDVM's '69 12-19-2008 12:01 PM

Believe me guys... I know how crappy the car ended up, so you wont hurt my feelings by telling it like it is..... its in excellent hands now, so I feel alot better.

As for the work.... I've only been welding for around 2 years now and I am dead on convinced that I could have done better work than that... I mean come on, man.... and it wouldnt have cost me much $$ to butcher it myself.

As for the MIG vs TIG....... I'm a complete amateur but heres my take.... if you can TIG it, then do it...... MIG will work okay alot of the time but you have to stick to some basic principles and techniques...nice gaps and fitment and heat control are key. MIG also doesnt give you much ability to work the metal after the weld, while TIG does, so it allows you to finesse the area more after welding.

I think for alot of guys MIG will be just fine but you need to take your time and stick to a good technique

tjbruning 12-19-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 (Post 184305)
Believe me guys... I know how crappy the car ended up, so you wont hurt my feelings by telling it like it is..... its in excellent hands now, so I feel alot better.

As for the work.... I've only been welding for around 2 years now and I am dead on convinced that I could have done better work than that... I mean come on, man.... and it wouldnt have cost me much $$ to butcher it myself.

As for the MIG vs TIG....... I'm a complete amateur but heres my take.... if you can TIG it, then do it...... MIG will work okay alot of the time but you have to stick to some basic principles and techniques...nice gaps and fitment and heat control are key. MIG also doesnt give you much ability to work the metal after the weld, while TIG does, so it allows you to finesse the area more after welding.

I think for alot of guys MIG will be just fine but you need to take your time and stick to a good technique

Two pieces fusion tacked (no filler) for perfect fitment - Weld is virtually seamless after it is fully welded and metal finished.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7...ates003rq3.jpg

Backside of radius
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8...ates005wb3.jpg


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