I like the stock stuff but with after market bolt ons. Its cheap and works great. I would consider the Hiedts stuff because of its great prices.

This has already been covered here, but you don't need an aftermarket subframe to run at the front of the pack. There are always those that want to bolt in all-new parts, or want the most high-zoot parts available, and we're glad there's a market for that... but if you're looking for value and performance a well-thought out complete system bolted to a stock subframe with a good set of tires will run just as hard or harder than any aftermarket sub setup on the market.

How is the hotchkis tvs kit along with UCA's and LCA's does it even come close to an after market subframe? can it be used with mini tubs?

Hotchkis does not address the steering geometry issues with a first gen subframe. You will still need to do something in this area to come close to the better aftermarket subframes. ATS spindles would be a good start. Tall balljoints would be another. You will also want an upgraded steering box.

Don

X2 on the spindle question is it for the drop?

Their is a price diff 350 for the RT and 875 for the ATS MSRP.
But..tttt ATS also gets you to a better place brake wise (no need for brackets)

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Originally Posted by jcal87 View Post
How is the hotchkis tvs kit along with UCA's and LCA's does it even come close to an after market subframe? can it be used with mini tubs?


but once the steering issues are resolved how are the hotchkis UCA's and LCA's along with the tvs kit would it compare

Heidts
 

so earlier in the thread it was said that Hiedts is cheap and pretty much a knockoff...is this agreed upon? if so this SUCKS cause their prices are awesome and the subframe and especially the pro-G IRS look amazing, im actually saving up for the subframe rite now. is it worht the wait and my money?

have a look at this combination.
http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...rod/prd133.htm

then add this.
http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...rod/prd215.htm

and if you want to go one step further and have C6 brakes there is this

http://www.speedtechperformance.com/...rod/prd187.htm

I don't have a Camaro. But, if I did I wouldn't use Heidt's. Not in comparison to DSE and Speedtech. But, your point was the "prices are awesome." That may be better for you. Out of all the Camaros on here running aftermarket subframes, and trust and believe there are lots of them, why are probably 90% of them running DSE and/or Speedtech? Just my opinion and you asked.:_paranoid

If you are looking for a setup that has proven itself on the track and dont want to break the bank i would use the stock sub and buy all the ridetech components. The ridetech 48 hour camaro drives very well and has all their suspension components with a stock subframe (no seam welding) and no subframe connectors. With their tru turn system you can run a 10" front wheel and with a little work and packaging you can get a little more under it if you want.
http://www.ridetech.com/store/1967-1...m-level-2.html

kevin miller