I think the "time trial" thing that a lot of the open track organizations are using is a way to subvert the insurance problems associated with running a street car in a competition.

Yep.. although I don't even know if you can "officially" call it a timed event.. because that implies a "competition" and thus a race.

i'm sure both sides of the issue (insurance companies & the open track companies) have an incomprehensible pile of legal mumbo-jumbo that absolves them each of liability. We just need a lawyer to tell us which one will stand up.

Wow, this is getting a little :willy: ..

This has to be for fun, for everyone.. leave egos behind..

This needs to be a time trial/school type set up for insurance purposes.

After we run our "time trials", we can have open track time. We could have two classes, street tires and race tires. I don't think we can/need to do wheel to wheel racing. There will be people with alot of experience, some with little to none. The last thing I want to see is someone getting hurt or destroying their car..

SW

I attended the IMCA Super Nationals in Boone, Iowa three few weeks ago. At the entrance to the pit gate was a sign that stated "No Crybabies". The message is that IMCA hosted the event and if any racers did not like the rules or format, they may as well stay out of the track.

The right people will need to step up and front the cash needed to host this event. These people have final say regarding the parameters of the event. Everyone else will just be guests in that hosts' "home" and can either participate or bail. That's just how things work.

Someone let me know if an event like this happens. In the meantime, I'll be hanging out with the "Posers." :D

Well whatever the rules 21st Century Street Machines will plan to attend. See my posting under C28 thread. Ed

just thought i would bring this back up...... you guys planning on maybe electing a commitee at sema to hammer this out?

If this happens in TX, I'd be happy to help organize things and pick up some volunteers to help out. I have plenty of track and shop connections as well, and SW and I get along just fine :)

I agree on the magazine test format, and having separate classes based on modifications. Lap times, slalom, braking distance, and quarter-mile.

Might even be more fun (and affordable) to invite any type of rear-drive performance vehicles to play, and just have separate pro-touring classes for us. Could be a HUGE gathering of nice rides.

Tony

Let's do this...

SW