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Originally Posted by Ketzer (Post 406011)

I personally think this is a whole lot more common than folks want to admit. That's the reason this keeps happening on here again and again.

Jeff-

The internet has allowed this. I prefer to do business with brick and mortar stores. Face to face and handshakes with actual inventory are much more comforting than just giving some guy on the internet your money. The companies with the drop-ship policies cause these guys to deal at cut-throat prices. TO deal at those prices, you have to jack up your volume. If you do not have the capacity to deal with that volume, you'll find things getting out of control. Fast.

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Originally Posted by The WidowMaker (Post 406016)

outright scary

not good......

And why is it so terrifying to imagine that a company doesn't want to operate in the red?

This whole situation stinks. I am with several other people on here in that I managed to dodge a bullet by deciding at the last moment to deal with someone else on my wheels.

From reading the timeline on here and at yellowbullet it sure smells like this "Sale" was a poorly set up scam to buy time while arranging for a favorable bankruptcy after the money that was paid in quietly disappears into daily operating expenses and small cash withdrawals for "petty cash expenses"

I sure hope the aggrieved parties follow through and pursue criminal actions as needed. It never ceases to amaze me just how many broke people "find" 10k or more when it is that or go to jail. There is little doubt in my mind from these accounts that there were orders taken when the management had no intention of paying manufacturers for the product as agreed.

While It is still possible that Jon is a stand up guy and this has all been a misunderstanding but the odds on that are looking mighty slim atm. (not sure I would gamble on that at 50:1)

ok , here we go all ... ive had contact and its not good.. just for the cheerleaders heres a transcript taken straight from my private email ...

he lied his arse off ...

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Gavin,
Yes ready to ship.
Travis bailed, (LONG STORY) but I'm left picking up the pieces to close these things out.

Same shipping information as before, correct? IF so, I'll put it all together and send you the info. We're leaving for the Good Guys show in San Diego, so I may be delayed a day or two, FYI, so you don't think you're being ignored if I don't respond right away.

Jon
NewGenWheels.com
714-915-5533

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Originally Posted by usa-69z

ok cool , well they must be ready to ship if you picked them up last friday? its now wed ..let me know whats happening .

Gavin

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Originally Posted by DriverzInc

Not our fault, FIKSE sucks, lets not blame it all on Driverz.

Your order is READY! I'll be picking them up from A/R on Friday.

Jon

Yes, Jon, I'm back in it.

DriverzInc.com
866-694-5940

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Originally Posted by usa-69z

Travis , please checkout this order as i waited over 10 months for my last set thru driverz thru bad management.

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Originally Posted by DriverzInc

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Originally Posted by usa-69z

Hi Travis, i ws wondering if you can check the status of an order i placed and paid for over a month ago for a set of cl205 us racing wheels for my camaro. I initially dealt with Jon .. name is Gavin *****- these will be shipped to australia when they turn up..

cheers, Gav

Gavin,

Sorry I didn't get a chance to check today on your wheels. I will do it first thing in the morning.

- Travis

__________________

Sales

D R I V E R Z Inc.com

Wheels / Tires / Brakes / Suspension / Parts /
Check out our new website, we're much more than just wheels!

Toll Free: 1-866-694-5940 _Corona, CA

and this today ... from his facebook account...:mad:

Jonathan Henson:unibrow:

Call your credit card company now and charge it back as soon as possible. Driverzinc is not going to fill any more orders, and there's nothing I can do about it, your money went into the DriverzInc account, and there's nothing I can do about it now.

.

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Originally Posted by garickman (Post 406117)

Not cool at all! In fact that is just BS. If it is too late to file a claim with your credit card company and you can not get your money back, you may have to go to court. Do your homework and contact as many people as you can who have had similar dealings with Driver'z Inc. You actually may be able to use these forums such as this one and pro-touring.com to show that there has been intent to defraud. Before everyone jumps all over me, I AM NOT saying that is what happened, I am just saying it is possible and there are some things that need to be looked at. For example;

Jon has been a member on lateral-g and pro-touring for 5 1/2 years under the user name of Driverz Inc.

Now on 2/20/12 on pro-touring.com, there is a post under Jons username that states Driverz Inc is under new ownership. It ends with poster stating his name is Travis Dulgerian. In that post, Travis states that Jon is now focusing soley on NewGen Wheel. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...ht=driverz+inc

On 3/15/12 on pro-touring.com, there is a post which states Driverz Inc is having a sale on overstock items. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...ht=driverz+inc. On 3/20/12 in this same thread, Jon Henson replies to someone using his new user name of NewGenWheels. He tells this person he emailed them a quote for shipping and to call Driverz Inc to order. Now according to Travis (alleged new owner) his last day at Driverz Inc. was 3/16/12. My question would be why was it Jon who quoted the shipping cost, and why did Jon tell this person to call Driverz Inc. to order if he knew Travis left 4 days earlier? Why was anyone taking customers money when they clearly knew the business was in major trouble?
Here is a link in which Travis states he no longer with Drivers Inc. His user name is street3285 http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...ht=driverz+inc.

Now for lateral-g. On 2/20/12, there is a post under Jon's username of DriverzInc stating Driverz is under new ownership. It is the same post that was used on pro-touring.com, and again the poster states his name is Travis Dulgerian.

On 3/20/12 there is a post on lateral-g.net under Jon's username of DriversInc stating they have a magnaflow exhaust special. Keep in mind this is exactly one month after the announcement of the new ownership. Exactly one month after Jon was to soley focus on NewGen Wheels. Exactly 14 days after the new alleged owner Travis stated he was officially in the office and exactly 4 days after Travis stated he was not the owner of Driverz Inc. and was no longer with Driverz Inc as of 3/16/12. So who posted the tread advertising the sale? Why was this sale even offered if Travis was no longer there and the business was in complete disarray? Was it an honest mistake or was there intent to defraud customers promising a sale on product they could not deliver?

I want to be very clear that I am in no way stating that either Travis or Jon ever had any intent to defraud customers. I am simply pointing out some discrepancies that I noticed on some public forums along with some questions I have raised and if answered might put some peoples mind at ease.

1. Why were Travis and Jon using the same user name of DriverzInc so it is impossible to tell who was posting?

2. Why would Travis come on public forums announcing he is in fact the new owner of Driverz Inc knowing full well he was not legally the owner?

3. Did the transfer/sale of the business really fall through or was there ever a deal in the first place?

4. Did Jon know the business had more potential to fail than succeed? If so, why keep offering sales, taking customers money?

Greg, I thought you said you were not an expert or the sharpest tool in the box. To me, it seems as if you have figured it all out and it makes plenty of good sense to me. I'm only out of $80. If you are out of more, I hope you get dealt right or your money gets returned. You know speaking of all of the "logging in under different names" back then I did notice that, but didn't give it much thought because I assumed everything was on the up and up with the sale back then. I just thought it was two guys who were friends doing a business deal.

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Originally Posted by 509Chevelle (Post 406122)

Fortunatley, I am not out any money as I am not one of the unlucky customers. I just can't stand to see people ripped off their hard earned money so I figured this might be a way I could possibly help.

i have contacted my cc company and they will investigate..They said it takes 6 weeks ..??? i told them the story and they report it as non recieved goods that you paid for? i will push it more after the weekend.

on the other side of things ,, he (JON) took my money $1400 on the 13/2/2012 and said the order was placed , then he has said he picked them up , then he had them in the shop ready to ship..If thats not fraud/theft i dont know what is?? thats as blatant as can be.... ive had numerous emails today from other guys that have spoken to him as recent as today and he is still telling them there wheels are on there way..

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Originally Posted by garickman (Post 406125)

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I have no sympathy for a liar and less for a thief. From the looks of it, and I repeat...from the looks of it he seems to be both. Notice I said "seems to be." I'm trying to remain as positive as I can about all of this hoping he will make all right.

i am either missing something or your posts got edited. theres no wrong doing that i see other than him being delayed (which sucks but not criminal). i dont see any attempt at fraud. but then again, i think your posts must have been edited and it dont see anything about facebook????