3 in and out burgers and some rivals and your back in buddy!!

Might have to add a couple chocolate shakes and some Animal fries..... oh - and wipers and headlights and signals.... Oh! And...... would it be okay if I ran a Euro plate??? LOL Do you think I could get away with rebadging this as an EVO??

Kidding of course --- we can have a bit of laughter can't we??







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Dan, I think we're carrying the same virus. Maybe we caught it from too many of Greg's barbecue weenies . . .

The "unlimited" thing used to be why race cars existed. Perhaps USCA is just helping to build the perfect kind of throwback forum (for building and running the craziest contraption in a kind of automotive decathlon sense). Maybe they're simply the beta version . . .

I hope so! I've read that the 2016 rules will be out by the end of the year, we'll see what they come up with. I'd love to see them embrace cars like Dusolds Camaro and Pappys "thing" (that he isn't sharing any pictures of). Shoot, just on this site you could find a dozen "outlaw" style streetcars...I'd imagine some of the import and newer American muscle guys would love to see an Ultimate/Unlimited class as well.

This whole thread comes up every year, It just gets long each year. We attended last year with the Chevelle, It was an extremely well ran event. I still don't understand even why we got an invite. Since we are really rookies to the event, we ran with the all show class. We can't pass and you just go parade around behind the slow car that unknowingly leads the parade. We paid them nothing and they never used any footage from us on TV. They just gave away space to let attempt to make a fool of ourselves with a 1970 Chevelle magazine cover car. They could have let guys who were way more serious participate for a bigger benefit for them selves. But they let us attend. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, we had a ball.

By the way we took my 1 year old daughter on the road rally with my wife in the back seat. If you can do that you truly have a street car.

Obviously like anything that is supposed to be fun, everyone gets really serious and wants a leg up on the competition. So as more people realize they would rather win then look cool in a stock suspension 1 gen Camaro. I have said this for years, Pro-touring is going to create to kinds of people, those who build race cars for the street and guys who think their car is capable of racing. People are now realizing that a stock C6 Vette is just as fast as well modded 1st gen Camaro. And cheaper. You don't build winning race cars with bolt on parts for very long, as some one will out think you with their welder pretty soon. If they don't make what is needed for the advantage some will make it.

Optima is trying to have an event to give these guys of different skill levels a place to kinda race. Its really not a race when there are other style and taste elements involved. But its alot of fun, but you can't have cars and track with guys you like to compete for long before some one rolls out some money to have an advantage if its allowed. USCA's job is to promote events people will attend and keep people safe and try to make a profit so they can support their own families. Rules are meant to level the playing field and try to keep people as safe as they can and their insurance requires.

Like a read in Jackass 2.0 yesterday, Stielow did not want build a muscle car on the level that it would now take to compete. I get that, the testing time and design time would kill any social life that guy might want as it will raise the bar so high. That is why you see guys running basically the same old car as that is probably now getting really well sorted after all these years.

Everyone would be much better suited to spend their money on training first. Go to every driving school you can and just drive what ever you have until it aint gonna go any faster ever. This aint Nascar, or any type of real professional racing. Heck just look at the grass roots drag racing these days. Those so called "STREET CARS" are going 3.87 in the 1/8 mile on a drag radials. But those guys will build and do what ever is needed.

100% correct^^^^^. Im going to ron fellows driving school in pahrump in january. My father in law bought a new z06 w/z07pkg so he got a real sweet deal on the school. Im tagging along to keep him company and im gonna do the school in a regular c7. I know more than anyone that i need to learn how to drive. I did a track x event here at the national corvette museum motorsports park and knew immediately I was out of my league. It was very fun and scary at the same time. I just want to get better with what i got and not build a race car that you can drive on the street.

I think most know that this isn't any kind of real race, more of an event to get together and run your car at whatever level you may be at. Some people go to GoodGuys, set up a chair and look at people looking at their car....uh, ok. For the folks that like to run their car in different events, this is the one to attend. (I'm talking more about the regional events then the finals in Vegas) I've seen all levels up folks running all sorts of cars. Is it for everyone? Obviously not.

It's a track day with more auto-X and speed stop then you'd get any place else. Throw in the vendors, expert drivers, an ass load of like minded people and you've got a great weekend. All that's needed is the Ultimate/Unlimited class:woot:



p.s. 1/8 mile is only half of a drag race

Chad, I actually worked on the same chart just to see where I could have possibly stacked up if it was scored as a GTV class. Unfortunately I did not score any points at the OUSCI. I gave my car hell and feel I drove it hard and stretched some of my own limits did better than some of the newer and nicer vehicle. But more importantly, in my own self evaluation I did better than I thought I would given the field and with a few more runs I would have done even better.

I compete in the USCA events because it is well organized, provides lots of seat time (if the event is not too crowded) has instructors to take advantage of and has some great like minded people to hang around with, learn from and have some friendly competition with. Vendor support is usually present and welcomed. It also lets me drive my car in a venue with other like cars to give me a bench mark of my cars abilities as well as my own. With the information I gathered over the course of competing in these events over the last year, I made some changes to the car and gathered much needed driving and set up experience. Granted, I am never going to rise to the driving level of Danny, Brian, Mary or Jake but if I can get close I am mostly satisfied and know I am going in the right direction.

Being lucky enough to have been invited to this years OUSCI I felt humbled by the field of drivers, the level and variety of cars, the SEMA experience, vendor support, and the event itself. Logistically it was difficult to arrange for time off, last minute hotel, costs and vehicle prep but it may be a once in a lifetime experience. A bucket list item and something I am very grateful and fortunate to have been a part of but it took a lot of work.

I knew before I started this build that trying to make a near 50 year old car out handle a newer prepared all wheel drive car, C5/6/7 or Porsche or other exotic was never going to happen. I chose to build my car because it provided a challenge and I love old iron. It would be easier and cheaper to have started with something newer and better like a C5/6 but then I wouldn't' be part of this group or even in this discussion. I just wanted to go out there and have fun and fun was had!

That being said the OUSCI had a different feel to it that a normal event. There was an East Coast/West Coast type feel to it and did not have the sense of community like I have seen in the past. Maybe it was just me or the fact that we were spread out across a large area I don't know. I normally keep to myself but I did reach out to several others that I only knew through facebook posts. I think I managed to get more noticed when I went out and hammered on the car and had some great conversations with some other drivers. Not sure if the car got any coverage as the camera crews seemed focused on all the usual suspects.

Jimi and his staff as well as the Optima staff do tons to get these events together and definitely hear and read what we are saying about the series. If the series is to survive it has to draw the participants regardless of class. If you like vintage and can live with never being the Ultimate Car then run it. if you really have to win and have the talent to win jump into another class.

There is always room for improvement, for instance as a participant i have a front row seat to the action, not so great for a spectator, family member or fan. You would have needed a good camera to get a good shot and you didn't get to feel the thunder of an engine at full tilt coming through the straights. There was a really good crowd at the event and hopefully they will continue to come in the future. As for the classes, I love GTV but I also would like to see some recognition in that area. The Ultimate winner should remain that winner regardless of class but maybe something can be done to level the field. The D&E really made a difference in where I placed as well as others. I have to figure out where I get dinged and make some changes.

All that said, I am a home builder. My car is cobbled from cast off used parts, Ebay, Craigs, sites like this on or wherever I can find them. I have busted knuckles, bled, sweat, countless hours of time invested as well as money. I feel I have built a good car. It's opened up so many new doors for me. It's even surprised a few people. Can it be better? Of course, and I will continue to work on it as well as myself and participate in this series as long as it remains reasonably affordable and fun. I look forward to next year and maybe another invite. In the meantime there is more work to do.

For those that haven't done one of these at least try it. Get your cars together, make them as safe as possible and worry about where you may stack up later and run within your ability. This is the only series that i know of that lets you run on iconic tracks and really push your cars and yourselves. Build them, drive them, fix them, repeat!

The "thing" ....old photo.... I'll start a thread soon since I am a lot further down the road with the project than this photo indicates.

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I don't see them doing an Unlimited class, as they currently don't even allow kit cars like Factory Five stuff...I could be wrong...will see soon enough