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tones2SS 03-21-2011 04:45 PM

Rich, your car is looking great. Keep up the great work.:yes: :thumbsup:

waynieZ 04-10-2011 12:04 PM

Hi Rich How's the progress going, Anything to report?

67ragtp 04-10-2011 03:07 PM

Hey Wayne, Not to bad, although sometimes you take a couple steps foward and then some back. I was having a tough time bleeding my hyd clutch set up. So I jump in the car while my son is under it getting ready to crack the bleeder open while I pump the pedal. I lay my hand on the steering wheel and the column tilt mechanism decides its going to blow its self out of its detent and ratchet all the way to the top position. Now Im sitting there saying WTF this is a brand new column from one of the best in the industry, I start playing with it and from the middle position to the top it will not lock, just slips out of every position except the two lowest. Im seeing red. Tell my son were done, get out of the shop because sh*t is going to be flying around this place. So I call them and they tell me they had a rash of them go out in late 08, my car was still having the body done while I bought the part, They were very apologetic, although I told her that I would have to sacrifice her first born if I have to rip my whole instrument cluster out to remove the column, luckily for her I did not. They turned it, in 48 hours and another 2 hours of install time and I was back were I started. So getting back to the Hyd clutch, wow, I pumped fluid from the bottom to the top, pedal bled it, and tried the mityvac hand pump and couldnt get the air out. Finally I hooked up my 8 cfm rotary vacuum pump through a huge pickle jar, pulled a serious vacuum and sucked a quart of fluid through the system in a minute or two and its perfect. Finally got to install the DSE rear sway bar and all the E-brake cables are completed. Im so close to firing it, I need a group34/78 red top, nobody has them locally here, I really want to buy it local in case it takes a dump on me. Been reading a lot of mixed reviews on them lately. My battery tray is milled for that exact battery so Im stuck with it. I had great sucess with my red top in my 67 so Im hoping there quality is still good. All the fluids are in the engine now, so it shouldnt be long now. Got my Crow harnesses they are so cool.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...cture207-1.jpg

Installed some marquez emblems
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...cture200-1.jpg

Thinking of installing, these on the sides of the cowl hood, what do you think?
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...cture205-1.jpg
Rich

frankv11 04-10-2011 08:09 PM

wow nice work , took me an a while from start to finish but very well worth it.

keep it up !!!!

awr68 04-10-2011 09:08 PM

Nice progress! Personally I'm not a fan of any badging on cowl hoods - less is more for me. :cheers:

Vegas69 04-10-2011 09:22 PM

Let me guess, Ididit?

67ragtp 04-11-2011 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 342779)
Let me guess, Ididit?

Oh ya they didit.

waynieZ 04-11-2011 08:16 AM

Sorry to hear about the column. I can understand your blood pressure going through the roof. I'm glad to hear your getting close. I like the numbers on the fender. I'm on the fence for the ones on the hood. I was thinking of having mine airbrushed on. The car's looking great. I can't wait to hear your first video when its running. Those belts will keep you in your seat for sure!

67ragtp 04-30-2011 09:04 AM

Well today was to be the first fire up of the ls7, unfortunately the fuel pump(ricks gs340) doesn't want to turn on. The computor is an e38 and when the key goes to the ignition I get 12volts at the pump for 3 seconds then the voltage goes to zero. The problem is while the voltage is present I dont here the pump running. The strange thing is when I bought the battery a week ago, I hooked it up with a dry gas tank, and turned the ignition one click to far and heard the pump growl for a second or two and immediatly shut it off and pulled the pump fuse to check the rest of the electrical system. Now the tank has 12 gallons in it and it dont want to turn on, I cant believe I could have damaged the pump with a momentaty turn on dry. If you guys have any ideas what to check I would appreciate it.

Thanks Rich

GregWeld 04-30-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ragtp (Post 345550)
Well today was to be the first fire up of the ls7, unfortunately the fuel pump(ricks gs340) doesn't want to turn on. The computor is an e38 and when the key goes to the ignition I get 12volts at the pump for 3 seconds then the voltage goes to zero. The problem is while the voltage is present I dont here the pump running. The strange thing is when I bought the battery a week ago, I hooked it up with a dry gas tank, and turned the ignition one click to far and heard the pump growl for a second or two and immediatly shut it off and pulled the pump fuse to check the rest of the electrical system. Now the tank has 12 gallons in it and it dont want to turn on, I cant believe I could have damaged the pump with a momentaty turn on dry. If you guys have any ideas what to check I would appreciate it.

Thanks Rich

Just jumper it.... that will tell u if its the pump or the ECU.

67ragtp 04-30-2011 01:35 PM

Thanks Greg - Ill be making up some test cables shortly. Thought I had this nailed down, oh well :( :( :(

GregWeld 04-30-2011 05:20 PM

If it was easy...... the fat chicks would be doing it.
:rofl:

Ron in SoCal 04-30-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 345592)
If it was easy...... the fat chicks would be doing it.
:rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm turning you into NOW...:)

GregWeld 04-30-2011 05:48 PM

I would also DOUBLE CHECK that you have 12V + at your lead from the relay...

Sometimes these are 12V- in order to run to another relay.

67ragtp 05-07-2011 08:01 AM

IT RUNS!! YEE HA!! Not very good, but nice to see good oil pressure/ fuel pressure and hear it come to life. In great backyard mechanic style I hooked up some home depot drain tubing and with a couple of pvc elbows, stuck it to the back of the muffs. It doesn't run very long, wont idle, but I believe the computer/MAF needs the proper parameters. It does sound healthy. Im kinda stuck at this point since I dont have hp tuners and really would bumble my way through the software. Got a leak at the firewall on one of the heater core fitttings so I need to resolve that. I tried the video feature on my camera but its not very good although if you turn up the volume you can hear the magnaflows barking.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture225.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture226.jpg

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DOOM 05-07-2011 09:22 AM

:willy: :willy: :willy: Thats great Rich!!!!!!

bonecrrusher 05-07-2011 10:06 AM

That car looks niceeee!

Ron in SoCal 05-07-2011 02:20 PM

Congrats Rich! Car looks great...:thumbsup:

BritishGreen68 05-07-2011 02:57 PM

Wow man looks great! What shifter are you using?

67ragtp 05-07-2011 04:41 PM

Thanks Guys

The shifter is a pro 5.0, I cut the threaded portion off the handle and welded a 3 inch stainless shoulder bolt at the angle I liked.

Thanks again Rich

waynieZ 05-07-2011 05:43 PM

Thats Awesome Rich, Sweet! Glad to hear the mistery is solved.

tones2SS 05-08-2011 09:32 AM

Congrats Rich.
Your car looks great. Inside and out.:thumbsup:

67ragtp 05-22-2011 11:40 AM

Good news to report :yes: , the engine didn't want to run more than about 10 seconds. So I was checking the MAF pin placement in the connector and relized I flipped the air temp sensor wires. After correcting the mis wiring in the MAF connector, I also had heater water leaks in the bulk head plumbing at the firewall, I really dont like those oring hose barb fittings so I tore it all out and switched it to AN stuff. The engine ran great, pig rich but Im sure speartech did that to ensure his ECU doesn't lean out a new engine. The throttle by wire is a very strange feel to me, especially after coming back from a long cruise in my 67 SB camaro(finally nice weather on the east coast). The Ls7 is so refined, my son and I are looking under the hood at the ls7 idling at 800 rpm and we looked at each other and said it seems so stock, does that thing really make power. I mean it idles like your daily driver. I finally tracked down Ed Hutchins, he's a master tuner, Im gonna try and get him to come to my house to tune this thing, next step is a test drive. Bought a couple ring bros/DSE trinkets in the pics, moving forward.

The RB Button head bolts with the large counter bored washers, I wish I could do the whole engine compartment.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...cture270-1.jpg

The RB hood stops
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture269.jpg

cool ring from DSE
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture273.jpg

Finally got the short dumps on the mufflers, I actually cut them off a perfectly good set of magnaflow tail pipes, just for 8 inches of turned pipe with an expanded end, what a waste. They probably would have sat around my shop for the next two decades anyway.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture265.jpg

Rich

waynieZ 05-22-2011 12:11 PM

Glad to hear you got it figured out. That must be a load off your mind for sure. Those parts look sweet on there and I agree the button head bolts and washers dress it up nice. I hope he get there to tune it for you its got to be Tuff being this close to driving it. Nice job figuring out the problem.

ModernMuseum 05-23-2011 07:42 AM

Very nice! :lateral:

Do you mind sharing what pieces you used for your intake and air cleaner?

Also, where did you source them from?

67ragtp 05-23-2011 09:58 AM

Wayne- Thanks, I do feel a lot better, it just needs to be dialed in. I will keep you posted.

ModernMuseum- Thankyou, Dont mind at all, the intake tubing is from spectre performance you can purchase through summit or jegs. One 90deg 4 inch OD alluminum tubing with a 7 inch leg- part number 97990 and one 22 deg 4 inch OD alluminum tubing with a 6 inch leg- part number 97290

The filter is K&N part number RE-0870
And an AEM dry flow pre-filter part number- 1-4001

The MAF housing and sensor is a Powermax- powerMAF 100 its basically a stock ls7 hitachi sensor with there custom housing.

I used spectre's couplers. Hope this helps- Rich

ModernMuseum 05-23-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ragtp (Post 349536)
Wayne- Thanks, I do feel a lot better, it just needs to be dialed in. I will keep you posted.

ModernMuseum- Thankyou, Dont mind at all, the intake tubing is from spectre performance you can purchase through summit or jegs. One 90deg 4 inch OD alluminum tubing with a 7 inch leg- part number 97990 and one 22 deg 4 inch OD alluminum tubing with a 6 inch leg- part number 97290

The filter is K&N part number RE-0870
And an AEM dry flow pre-filter part number- 1-4001

The MAF housing and sensor is a Powermax- powerMAF 100 its basically a stock ls7 hitachi sensor with there custom housing.

I used spectre's couplers. Hope this helps- Rich

Thanks a lot for the break-down and part numbers.

I've seen a lot of people route it this way. I'm guessing your air cleaner is routed into the void in the fender well? Do you think you're pulling in relatively cool air this way? Just curious, as I've seen people build air boxes to separate the air cleaner air from the engine bay.

67ragtp 05-23-2011 01:13 PM

If you look at the drivers side head light, just to the right of it is the grill opening and its taking in outside air. I imagine it has to be cooler than the filter being directly under the hood. Yes, the filter is almost completely under the front fender. You could build a sheet metal wall where it enters the fender isolating the filter from the engine bay, I dont think its necessary though. Scott G was very helpful when I was designing mine and informed me that it is a very dirty area and the pre-filter is a must. I would have never thought of that, I guess his filter got pretty dirty in short amount of time.

tones2SS 05-23-2011 05:27 PM

Looks great. Love the Ring Brother and DSE upgrades.:thumbsup:

ModernMuseum 05-23-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ragtp (Post 349555)
If you look at the drivers side head light, just to the right of it is the grill opening and its taking in outside air. I imagine it has to be cooler than the filter being directly under the hood. Yes, the filter is almost completely under the front fender. You could build a sheet metal wall where it enters the fender isolating the filter from the engine bay, I dont think its necessary though. Scott G was very helpful when I was designing mine and informed me that it is a very dirty area and the pre-filter is a must. I would have never thought of that, I guess his filter got pretty dirty in short amount of time.

Sweet. Ill probably do mine the same way then.

Any particular reason you pointed your exhaust inward like that? Do you think you get much more noise that way vs running it all the way to the back?

mrgm 05-23-2011 08:43 PM

http://www.owned.lv/images/x3xcf58cf...8f7ccce76c.jpg

awr68 05-23-2011 09:03 PM

Looks great Rich! :thumbsup:

67ragtp 05-24-2011 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModernMuseum (Post 349623)
Sweet. Ill probably do mine the same way then.

Any particular reason you pointed your exhaust inward like that? Do you think you get much more noise that way vs running it all the way to the back?

Straight down and it resonates off the pavement, can be even more annoying than the way I have it setup. By pointing them at each other and slightly down Im hoping for some slight noise cancelation. No matter how I look at it, it sucks. Also tried to direct the exhaust gas away from the inside of the wheel so I cut the angle accordingly. I would love to have full tails going out the back which would be significantly quieter but there are to many monkey bars back there. I try to do every thing I can myself with car building, exhaust systems have become my nemisis. It didn't seem obnoxiously loud while running in my basement, so it will have to do for now.

67ragtp 06-12-2011 01:37 PM

Well it finally got out on the driveway, exposed to the sun. First time since it came home from paint, one year later. Ran the engine for a while, Fan turned on at 200, I was happy to see that working properly, off at 190. The second fan never turned on, dont know what the set point is. First check was steering, couldnt move the wheel, and the brake pedal was bouncing all over the place. This is a hydraboost system so we jacked up the front end and turned the wheel a half million times and pumped the brake pedal another half million times. It feels alot better now. The hyd clutch needed 2 turns on the clevis linkage, and hopefully Im not bottoming out the master, pedal is hitting the floor board so I believe it is stopping before it hits the bottom of the master. The clutch feels good, drove up and down the driveway a few times and it seems to work nice, grabs just off the floor. I couldnt take it out for a maiden voyage since the the front fenders are practically sitting on the tires.
I think the Wilwood WS6 calipers were a poor choice on my part there just to big and the .250 spacer to clear them pushed the 10 inch forglines out enough to be to close to the edge. Ive got a little over 2 deg of negitive camber in this thing and cant get it to clear. I hope adjusting the ride height helps. My rims are a 7 inch inner and a 3 inch outer, Im wondering if I went to a 2.5 inch outer hoop making the rim a 9.5" would the 275 tire fit on it and would it be in the front fender a 1/2 deeper. If this makes sense please comment. Heres some pics almost complete outside. Thanks Rich

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture279.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture280.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture281.jpg

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elitecustombody 06-12-2011 03:31 PM

Beautiful car:thumbsup:great attention to detail

War 06-12-2011 04:39 PM

Rich, the car came out incredible. That is a great looking car you have, well done.:thumbsup:

cencalc6 06-12-2011 05:05 PM

your car is beautiful :cheers:

Ron in SoCal 06-12-2011 05:07 PM

Wow Rich...major props, she looks great from every angle! FYI, my Forgelines are 6.9" BS so I think you're right on the money. DSE does not use the C6 control arms as the AME sub on my bucket but I believe it's the same geometry and wheel clearance (i.e. 18x10). Front fender width should be very close also, which means time to roll those lips or get a diff front caliper? Keep me posted!

Oh, and that Endura buumper looks right at home...:lol:

waynieZ 06-12-2011 05:34 PM

Oh So SWEET! Nice work Rich, it looks great. Thaty must have felt good even just in the driveway. Very Nice.

67ragtp 06-12-2011 06:09 PM

Thanks guys, its been rewarding, I still have a bunch of sorting out to do. And Ed Hutchings is coming to my house to tune this thing the last week in June so I need to make it road worthy.

Thanks again- Rich


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