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nvr2fst 09-24-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 236197)
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...maro/photo.jpg

Sweet, Hurry up and get these on so I can envision them on a 69 you have!

Swain 09-25-2009 01:57 PM

Here is a few Pics I just took with my phone they look kind of dark.. The centers don't look that color they look like the pic above.



http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...MAICCENTER.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...b/CERAMIC2.jpg

ironworks 09-25-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swain (Post 236805)
Here is a few Pics I just took with my phone they look kind of dark.. The centers don't look that color they look like the pic above.



http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...MAICCENTER.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...b/CERAMIC2.jpg

Looks good Jay, but can you take a better pic when the coastal fog clears?

Swain 09-25-2009 02:29 PM

Damn pocket lint cleaned it off a bit.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ICCENTER-1.jpg

novanutcase 09-25-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swain (Post 236811)
Damn pocket lint cleaned it off a bit.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ICCENTER-1.jpg

WOW!!! Sweet wheel!!!:thumbsup:

John

Swain 09-25-2009 02:35 PM

One more without the center cap

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...k/CERAMIC3.jpg

ironworks 09-25-2009 02:59 PM

Wow those look awesome, I must say Thanks to Tyler for letting me copy his idea. I must give credit where credit is due. So Tuesday we can install with our BFG tires.....

Thanks to the everyone at Budnik for these awesome wheels and the support on this project.

camaro2nv 09-25-2009 03:39 PM

How much do they weigh? Black lip looks good!

awr68 09-25-2009 03:57 PM

Looks good guys!! :thumbsup:

Swain 09-25-2009 04:01 PM

The rears were 24.3 lbs Fronts I didn't weigh yet

70rs 09-25-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swain (Post 236813)

That is a really nice looking wheel. I like the color combo.:thumbsup:

ironworks 09-25-2009 05:25 PM

Here is pic that Sheila from Budnik sent me. Wow looks better then expected.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...o/NewImage.jpg

olds87 09-25-2009 06:04 PM

That just sick.

tones2SS 09-26-2009 09:01 AM

Looks amazing!!!:wow:

tobenk 09-26-2009 09:52 AM

Those look awesome Roger. I sure like my Budniks. :hail:

RECOVERY ROOM 09-26-2009 10:52 AM

Very nice setup

ironworks 09-28-2009 07:41 AM

Thanks Guys, I'm pretty excited about the build myself. We will get the wheels tomorrow morning.

I'm looking forward to getting these Budnik wheels and BFG tires installed on the car to see it togther.

Rodger

crazycarl 09-28-2009 11:43 AM

Hey Rodger, everything looks great. I have been AWOL lately with other responsibilities. Sorry I missed you guys in August but hopefully will be able to hook up for the next round. I'm looking forward to seeing this car in person, maybe I'll be able to make it to SEMA.

Carl

ironworks 09-29-2009 06:19 PM

With out making any body wait anylonger and the 5 phone calls I got today asking to see pics, HERE YA GO.

Drum Roll Please...........

This is a really go idea of the actual color of the wheels and those 295 front tires look awesome. The wheels are 18x10 and 18x12.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009071.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009074.jpg

The Budnik steering wheel looks awesome. Same finish as the wheels.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009076.jpg



I just want to say Thanks to Jay and Sheila at Budnik for working with me to get these wheels set up. Jay really helped pic the center color and Sheila was patient enough to work with me to get it done.

Thanks

HWY Nova 09-29-2009 06:24 PM

NICE!!!!



--Eric

Teetoe_Jones 09-29-2009 06:54 PM

You know i love it.

The tire and wheel become seamless and blend together, making the lighter color spokes 'float' in the tire.

Get that thing slammed for a pic and get it outdoors!

Tyler

ItDoRun 09-29-2009 06:59 PM

How much lower do you expect the car to be? I'm just curious how much more adjustment you have in the rear with the G-Link. I've seen several installation pictures of the G-Link, but no final ride height pictures. I'm hoping to have mine in a couple of weeks.

NvrDun71 09-29-2009 07:21 PM

Looks Great :thumbsup:, what does Budnik call the center wheel color?

ironworks 09-29-2009 07:46 PM

When I got the rear tire on the car the studs are way to long, I want an open ended lug nuts but these wheels require a small 12 point kinda lug nut so I'm going to machine the tops off the lug nuts and run the studs out the top of the lug nuts.

The spring collar in the rear is spun all the way down and may need a lighter or shorter spring to get it to sit properly at the current weight. The front is just a tiny bit high but may not be able to be slammed with the 295 without tire fender contact on compression. Now that we have the wheels where we can make sure everything clears properly.

Which brings me to another bit of news, that may be plainly obvious Since SEMA is not to far away and the car is still bare metal. We decided that it was more important to include all the design features we wanted in the build of the car and be able to test the car for more then 2 weeks before SEMA. We will not be running the car in the Optima Shootout. James Shipka made me aware of the rule that unless you win the event you cannot run the same car twice in that event. There are some awesome well sorted out cars coming to the event that have had way more track time and testing then I could ever get in between now and SEMA and the Optima Challenge. So we will work through the winter to have the car ready to rock in 2010. We have events like the One Lap event, Silver state, Virginia City Hill climb, and the Goodguys auto cross events to run next year. Almost 30 events at this point. Next year will be a blast and I can finish all the ideas we have to to the level I want. In reality I picked up the chassis parts from Chassisworks 105 days ago. I guess we are not doing to bad.

As much as this sucks, I want to be able to incorporate "ALL" of the ideas I want in this car and not be cut short just to make an appearance at an event. Plus I'm not independently wealthy and I have customer who hired us to work on their cars and we need them to do that and to keep them happy.

Thanks guys

nvr2fst 09-29-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 237698)
When I got the rear tire on the car the studs are way to long, I want an open ended lug nuts but these wheels require a small 12 point kinda lug nut so I'm going to machine the tops off the lug nuts and run the studs out the top of the lug nuts.

The spring collar in the rear is spun all the way down and may need a lighter or shorter spring to get it to sit properly at the current weight. The front is just a tiny bit high but may not be able to be slammed with the 295 without tire fender contact on compression. Now that we have the wheels where we can make sure everything clears properly.

Which brings me to another bit of news, that may be plainly obvious Since SEMA is not to far away and the car is still bare metal. We decided that it was more important to include all the design features we wanted in the build of the car and be able to test the car for more then 2 weeks before SEMA. We will not be running the car in the Optima Shootout. James Shipka made me aware of the rule that unless you win the event you cannot run the same car twice in that event. There are some awesome well sorted out cars coming to the event that have had way more track time and testing then I could ever get in between now and SEMA and the Optima Challenge. So we will work through the winter to have the car ready to rock in 2010. We have events like the One Lap event, Silver state, Virginia City Hill climb, and the Goodguys auto cross events to run next year. Almost 30 events at this point. Next year will be a blast and I can finish all the ideas we have to to the level I want. In reality I picked up the chassis parts from Chassisworks 105 days ago. I guess we are not doing to bad.

As much as this sucks, I want to be able to incorporate "ALL" of the ideas I want in this car and not be cut short just to make an appearance at an event. Plus I'm not independently wealthy and I have customer who hired us to work on their cars and we need them to do that and to keep them happy.

Thanks guys

I guess Ill start off by saying your reasoning for not debuting is a smart move and as you say theres a ton of events always. But now that the thrash is somewhat off I do enjoy reading your last sentence.

awr68 09-29-2009 08:34 PM

Rodger, you are clearly making the right choice here...it's not an easy one...but the right one in the end! :cheers:

ccracin 09-30-2009 05:09 AM

I hope alot of people pay attention to your posts Rodger. As good as you guys are it is still about the customer all the time. :cheers:

Swain 09-30-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 237666)
With out making any body wait anylonger and the 5 phone calls I got today asking to see pics, HERE YA GO.

Drum Roll Please...........

This is a really go idea of the actual color of the wheels and those 295 front tires look awesome. The wheels are 18x10 and 18x12.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009071.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009074.jpg

The Budnik steering wheel looks awesome. Same finish as the wheels.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ber2009076.jpg



I just want to say Thanks to Jay and Sheila at Budnik for working with me to get these wheels set up. Jay really helped pic the center color and Sheila was patient enough to work with me to get it done.

Thanks

Hey Rodger the wheels look good mounted, why dont you throw on the custom grip we sent with the steering wheel haha. That color is in season right now. Can't wait to see this car finished..

tones2SS 09-30-2009 11:04 AM

Looking good guys.:thumbsup:

ItDoRun 09-30-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 237698)
The spring collar in the rear is spun all the way down and may need a lighter or shorter spring to get it to sit properly at the current weight. The front is just a tiny bit high but may not be able to be slammed with the 295 without tire fender contact on compression. Now that we have the wheels where we can make sure everything clears properly.

So you should have about 2-3 more inches of rear ride height adjustment if the nut is all the way down, right?

ironworks 09-30-2009 12:16 PM

Maybe 2" but we have pretty stiff springs in the car, The car might come down 1" in the rear but I may not have 1 inch to lower the front, without jacking the geometry.

Now that I have the tires and wheels installed I can finalize all the room left from these big tires.

Rodger

crazycarl 09-30-2009 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItDoRun (Post 237845)
So you should have about 2-3 more inches of rear ride height adjustment if the nut is all the way down, right?

If the nut is all the way down then they should be able to go to a softer spring. The suspension has a specific static shock length in mind. If it's longer than that then a softer spring will allow the car to drop more. The g-Link also has adjustable shock mounts so depending on where they are set now the car may be able to drop lower in the back.

But as Rodger mentioned before, with that much tire you have to be concerning with rubbing at full compression.

Vegas69 09-30-2009 04:30 PM

You can't forget shock compression either. The lower you go, the less travel you have.

ironworks 09-30-2009 04:39 PM

But Carl, I'm also not building a car to ride like a Cadillac. Plus Not all the weight is in the car and Yes the adjustable shock mounts are at the bottom of the adjustment. The other thing is this car it lighter then typical and these springs are just what they recommend for a starting base line spring. Not for the gutted camaro with carbon this and light weight this and blah, blah, blah.

crazycarl 09-30-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 237924)
But Carl, I'm also not building a car to ride like a Cadillac. Plus Not all the weight is in the car and Yes the adjustable shock mounts are at the bottom of the adjustment. The other thing is this car it lighter then typical and these springs are just what they recommend for a starting base line spring. Not for the gutted camaro with carbon this and light weight this and blah, blah, blah.

Dear Mister Ape, I didn't know that this car was lightened up from factory. Here I was thinking that all of these modifications were purely to make it look nice and purdy. Thank you, oh grape one, for showing me the light. :hail:

:lol:

ironworks 09-30-2009 04:54 PM

No problem, Team Hollywood driver #2. You missed out on the blood and guts at the Round 2 of the Livermore race..... The Grape ape was handlin foo's, REALLY...The cuts on my hand are just now healing....

As far as the lightening goes you might want to check out the previous 28 pages.

Thanks CARL

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...eed/cencal.jpg

crazycarl 09-30-2009 05:08 PM

Rodger, Rodger, Rodger, the previous 28 pages are the past. I only concern myself with the future. (Besides if you look at post #44 you will find I was already putting in my useless opinion. And I stand by my statement that the rendering looks like Velocity. I also am positive that it won't look at all like it real life so don't take it personal. I am familiar with S4 girl and her car.)

Yes, I missed the last round and I was bummed it had to go down that way. Hopefully I'll be back for the next round, I have some things a-brewin'.

Sorry for the thread-jack.

ironworks 09-30-2009 05:17 PM

Hay don't worry Carl, this car building takes a back seat to the indoor go karting clinic that "the dish", Dipstick Jimmey and myself put on. We only lost by 22 seconds after a 10 second pit penalty and running 4 laps under the electronic shut down, and the rigged kart selection. We almost lapped 2nd place by 2 laps last race. So you know they were gunning for us.

I think anybody would get pissed if a huge purple blob passed you as many time as Ty "think with your dipstick, JIMMY" from Air ride, Clint Petree like "the dish" and Warren Wallace, did. I will take a dripping bloody hand anyday to see the look when I grabbed him kart and pulled him back to make the move after they rammed us into the wall. The look on Victor's face was awesome......

I still wanna put Team Silver spoon in the wall.... SUCKA :unibrow: :unibrow: :D

crazycarl 09-30-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironworks (Post 237942)
I will take a dripping bloody hand anyday to see the look when I grabbed him kart and pulled him back to make the move after they rammed us into the wall. The look on Victor's face was awesome......
:D

I haven't seen Clint in a while so I haven't heard the stories. Things are starting to calm down up here so we're gonna have to :cheers: soon.

ironworks 09-30-2009 05:45 PM

It was a full on 3 ring circus driving clinic put on by Team Cencal. You would have been proud...:D


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