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Payton King 06-28-2011 11:18 AM

Ooooooh!
 
I like that

Ron in SoCal 06-28-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 356671)
Looking DAMM good their Ron! Looking forward to seeing it in person soon..

Haha...I was referring to you when I said 'being built right' on the prior page. See you real soon Cris!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 356703)
I like that

Thx Payton. Can't wait to hear how that rear end performs! :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 06-29-2011 04:19 PM

How about a little eye candy?

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olFrame001.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olFrame005.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olFrame004.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olFrame002.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olFrame003.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olFrame007.jpg

MODO Innovations 06-29-2011 04:39 PM

I really like the red pinstripe. Great job.:thumbsup:

96z28ss 06-29-2011 04:56 PM

Where did you get the billet uprights?

GregWeld 06-29-2011 05:21 PM

Who's sub is that Ron??

Vegas69 06-29-2011 05:24 PM

Looks like a Wayne Due.

Gandalf 06-29-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 356973)
Who's sub is that Ron??

That be one of them fancy Art Morrision sub frames ;-) Lookin' good Ron.

G.

GregWeld 06-29-2011 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 356976)
That be one of them fancy Art Morrision sub frames ;-) Lookin' good Ron.

G.

AH HA --- that's why it looked so familiar -- I had a Wayne Due with C5....

Ron in SoCal 06-29-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MODO Innovations (Post 356968)
I really like the red pinstripe. Great job.:thumbsup:

Thanks Shannon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 356971)
Where did you get the billet uprights?

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 356973)
Who's sub is that Ron??

What that is is an AME sub w their HD adjustable sway bar, LG Billet Spindles, Pfadt Poly bushings and Lower BJ. Travis modified the Spindles to work as AME does and designed/oversaw the custom billet steel steering arms for the modified geometry. Arms are powdercoated silver and the uprights are cleared. It really was a big a** project. BTW, thanks to Trav, Rupp, AME Matt and Fernando (Killer67)...:thumbsup:

ZR1 hubs are sitting at home waiting to be put on!

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 356974)
Looks like a Wayne Due.

Iowa public schools in the house. I half expected you to say it's a Scott Mock..:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf (Post 356976)
That be one of them fancy Art Morrision sub frames ;-) Lookin' good Ron.

G.

Thx G. I knew you'd spot it first! It kinda freaked me out when I saw the rack arms about an inch and half forward of the rack. Matt calmed me down though...:lol:

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 356977)
AH HA --- that's why it looked so familiar -- I had a Wayne Due with C5....

GW - I am not 100% positive, but I think there's some connection WD->AME. Maybe you can refresh me on that?

skatinjay27 06-29-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 356981)



Iowa public schools in the house. I half expected you to say it's a Scott Mock..:lol:



HAHA at least that guess would be up to date!

having everything finished on that sub makes it pure car porn!
and those uprights are sexy!!!

GregWeld 06-29-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 356981)
GW - I am not 100% positive, but I think there's some connection WD->AME. Maybe you can refresh me on that?


Wayne was a local builder -- and I think that when he closed up shop - AME just kind of took over where he left off. I have no personal knowledge of any business transaction - if any - it's just very similar to what Wayne was building.

Vegas69 06-29-2011 09:15 PM

It really looks like a Wayne Due with some tweaks. Those uprights and the adjustable sway bar are tits. Looking forward to seeing it in my rear view mirror.:lol:

Ron in SoCal 06-29-2011 09:50 PM

^ "Objects in the rear view mirror may be closer than they appear..."

Thx for the props Bro! :thumbsup:

Track Junky 06-29-2011 10:34 PM

Damn, late to the party again!! Thats some serious hardware SoCal, LOL.:thumbsup:

Jr 06-29-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 356977)
AH HA --- that's why it looked so familiar -- I had a Wayne Due with C5....

What happened with this sub?

Jr 06-29-2011 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 356981)
Thanks Shannon!





What that is is an AME sub w their HD adjustable sway bar, LG Billet Spindles, Pfadt Poly bushings and Lower BJ. Travis modified the Spindles to work as AME does and designed/oversaw the custom billet steel steering arms for the modified geometry. Arms are powdercoated silver and the uprights are cleared. It really was a big a** project. BTW, thanks to Trav, Rupp, AME Matt and Fernando (Killer67)...:thumbsup:

ZR1 hubs are sitting at home waiting to be put on!



that's one hell of a list! Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 06-29-2011 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 356987)
Wayne was a local builder -- and I think that when he closed up shop - AME just kind of took over where he left off. I have no personal knowledge of any business transaction - if any - it's just very similar to what Wayne was building.

That would be interesting to know...

I keep thinking that the AME product is light years ahead of Wayne Due's subframes, not that I can recall the specifics as to why. I'm sure our pro-touring guru Mr. Stielow would know.

Anyway, that is some fine looking hardware you've got there, Ron. Billet uprights and all - very trick. So, when are you going to break down and get some Penske shocks to go with everything :rofl:

Matt

Jgpclone 06-30-2011 01:10 AM

Thats one bad azz ride u have. love the paint job!!

Bryan O 06-30-2011 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 356961)
How about a little eye candy?

Sweet! :thumbsup:

Payton King 06-30-2011 06:27 AM

LG uprights
 
Are those the ones with the 1 inch drop built in? Pretty cool stuff right there.

cencalc6 06-30-2011 07:32 AM

Ron, your car is coming out Very Nice....Great List of things you got in the car :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 06-30-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 357038)
Damn, late to the party again!! Thats some serious hardware SoCal, LOL.:thumbsup:

No you're not. You're right on time Gae! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by DJW32 (Post 357040)
that's one hell of a list! Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

T.Y Sir...:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 357048)
That would be interesting to know...

I keep thinking that the AME product is light years ahead of Wayne Due's subframes, not that I can recall the specifics as to why. I'm sure our pro-touring guru Mr. Stielow would know.

Anyway, that is some fine looking hardware you've got there, Ron. Billet uprights and all - very trick. So, when are you going to break down and get some Penske shocks to go with everything :rofl:

Matt

Yeah, don't think I wasn't thinking about it when James put those up for sale. But then I was like, naw I don't have any 'show' touring bars to mount the resivours on...:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jgpclone (Post 357053)
Thats one bad azz ride u have. love the paint job!!

Thx Jgp!

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Originally Posted by The Patch (Post 357065)
Sweet! :thumbsup:

Thx Bry! Just saw your sweet bodywork update...:thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 06-30-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 357069)
Are those the ones with the 1 inch drop built in? Pretty cool stuff right there.

Exactly. The genesis was that I got the render and was talking w Matt and JCG Cris about ride height. Cris (the man) said 'no prob Ron, we can do anything you want.' AME has some low cars on their site, but Matt thought drop spindles would be the best approach and put me onto LG. The 1" drop in a c6 spindle does not have the same issues as what you see on a stock spindle; basically the same geometry can be achieved with a lower COG. Mr Rupp really had the roadmap on this so we started talking about design/weak points - one fix creates a new issue to look at so I had to go all in. Turns out LG has some track proven stuff and recently came out w these extruded pieces which made them within my reach. Fernando sourced them for me. Really a team effort.

BTW, I used full height body mounts but I know I'm in a world of hurt on my tunnel and inner fenders. Pretty sure the tubs and rear suspension is fine. Oh well, add two more items to the punch list...:yes:

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Originally Posted by cencalc6 (Post 357091)
Ron, your car is coming out Very Nice....Great List of things you got in the car :thumbsup:

Thx Phillip! Looking forward to some updates on your sweet ride...:thumbsup:

Track Junky 06-30-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 357106)
Exactly. The genesis was that I got the render and was talking w Matt and JCG Cris about ride height. Cris (the man) said 'no prob Ron, we can do anything you want.' AME has some low cars on their site, but Matt thought drop spindles would be the best approach and put me onto LG. The 1" drop in a c6 spindle does not have the same issues as what you see on a stock spindle; basically the same geometry can be achieved with a lower COG. Mr Rupp really had the roadmap on this so we started talking about design/weak points - one fix creates a new issue to look at so I had to go all in. Turns out LG has some track proven stuff and recently came out w these extruded pieces which made them within my reach. Fernando sourced them for me. Really a team effort.

BTW, I used full height body mounts but I know I'm in a world of hurt on my tunnel and inner fenders. Pretty sure the tubs and rear suspension is fine. Oh well, add two more items to the punch list...:yes:

Way to take the bull by the horns Ron. Learn by everybody elses trials and tribulations and theoretically you should only have to do this right one time saving you time and money.

Solid team you put together also. I mean with the many builds Chris has put together and the many, many, many changes and experiences Penny and Rupp have been through theoretically you should be in good shape.

Anxious to see how she looks and rides up front. :thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 06-30-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 357098)

Yeah, don't think I wasn't thinking about it when James put those up for sale. But then I was like, naw I don't have any 'show' touring bars to mount the resivours on...:lol:

Excuse me, but the correct terminology would be "up bars." Down bars tie the subframe into the cage, and "up bars" hold the shock reservoirs "up."

Matt

Payton King 06-30-2011 11:20 AM

I hear you on the fender well clearence
 
That was the main reason I went with my fabbed aluminum ones.

Car is really coming together!

Ron in SoCal 06-30-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 69MSA (Post 357146)
Excuse me, but the correct terminology would be "up bars." Down bars tie the subframe into the cage, and "up bars" hold the shock reservoirs "up."

Matt

I stand corrected, Matt. I believe you've found your niche - 'Pro Touring Terminology'. You can write a book about it, make up a few new ones and fund that go kart build...:lol:

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Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 357164)
That was the main reason I went with my fabbed aluminum ones.

Car is really coming together!

Thx Payton, so is yours...:thumbsup:..I'm not looking to fab alum, although it does look nice. Maybe look into Anvil's, not sure yet.

Flash68 06-30-2011 11:45 AM

Ron, you pioneer, you.... :thumbsup:

Looks killer man. Just a lil pressure to drive it as good as it looks when it's done! :D

Ron in SoCal 06-30-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 357168)
Ron, you pioneer, you.... :thumbsup:

Looks killer man. Just a lil pressure to drive it as good as it looks when it's done! :D

Haha...I'm killin' it on the engineering front, right? :lol:

Driving it hard is the plan Bro, although I think we'll all be chasing Fernando one day on the straights (930 hp)....:thumbsup:

Cris@JCG 06-30-2011 01:18 PM

Don't worry about it Ron! We will just cut out the floor out & channel the body over the sub-frame! You don't need trunk space? The rear suspension can be stuffed in their.. Then we will get the ride height we want.. An inch of ground clearance is all we need!! LMAO!

Ron in SoCal 06-30-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 357184)
Don't worry about it Ron! We will just cut out the floor out & channel the body over the sub-frame! You don't need trunk space? The rear suspension can be stuffed in their.. Then we will get the ride height we want.. An inch of ground clearance is all we need!! LMAO!

Yee-um. Just custom fab me some dollies so we can load it on/off the trailer...:D

Flash68 06-30-2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 357182)
Haha...I'm killin' it on the engineering front, right? :lol:

Driving it hard is the plan Bro, although I think we'll all be chasing Fernando one day on the straights (930 hp)....:thumbsup:

Seriously tho very cool stuff.

And yeah I think 930hp will be... enough. :lol:

rwhite692 06-30-2011 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 356981)

GW - I am not 100% positive, but I think there's some connection WD->AME...


Wayne told me that he used Morrison as a supplier of the mandrel bent side rails and lower cradle for the C5 subframes when he was building them (since Wayne did not have that capability).

When Wayne closed shop, Morrison took over the design and refined it to make it easier to produce / less costly to produce, and also added features (the included trans crossmember being one of several).

They also did away with the use of the Speedway Engineering splined swaybar arrangement. Everything else, ie, track width, UCA/LCA mounting points, etc, is the same, to the best of my knowledge.

Here are few pics of my WD C5:

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/42...600x600Q85.jpg


http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/43...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/44...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg

Ron in SoCal 06-30-2011 05:03 PM

Great historical post Rob. Your WD sub sure looks similar. On the swaybar upgrade, I had the choice of a splined set up or the one I got. I chose mine based on installed 'on car' adjustability and less weight.

killer67 06-30-2011 08:11 PM

DAMN! That frame is so sexy and muscular. I love it and even better, it will be under something in a couple of weeks. Killer upgrades on it :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 07-01-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by killer67 (Post 357256)
DAMN! That frame is so sexy and muscular. I love it and even better, it will be under something in a couple of weeks. Killer upgrades on it :thumbsup:

Thx Bro. I gotta do something to neutralize 930hp...:yes:

Ron in SoCal 07-01-2011 02:54 PM

Happy 4th of July weekend guys. Hope everyone has a fun and safe weekend!

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olTrunk001.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olTrunk002.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/a...olTrunk003.jpg

cencalc6 07-01-2011 03:49 PM

What Brand undercoating did you use? came out very nice :thumbsup:

Ron, What Headers are you plan on using? There's (3) Headers I have in mind.

1. Art Morisson Headers 1-3/4 with 3" Collectror
Mild Steel $625.00

2. Stainless Works 1-3/4 with 2"-1/2 Collector
Stainless Steel $890.00

3. Kooks 1-7/8 with 3" collector
Mild Steel $950.00

Gandalf 07-01-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cencalc6 (Post 357407)
Ron, What Headers are you plan on using? There's (3) Headers I have in mind.

1. Art Morisson Headers 1-3/4 with 3" Collectror
Mild Steel $625.00

2. Stainless Works 1-3/4 with 2"-1/2 Collector
Stainless Steel $890.00

3. Kooks 1-7/8 with 3" collector
Mild Steel $950.00


Ron - time for that visit we talked about... We have options and they are hot on/off the press. "Call me".

Have a great 4th holiday weekend bud!

Gregg.


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