that's sig material, love it! :lol:

You speak the truth :thumbsup: It's even more fun taking out the high $ cars with all their electronics, ie throttle stops, delay boxs.

I had the privilege of meeting Gwen and Greg and getting a quick personal trailer tour of Old Yeller today! The car is exceptional in person, what a track weapon! Great job on the build Charlie. :thumbsup:

Greg - It was a real pleasure to finally meet you and your lovely wife all though way too brief of a meeting.

Hope the forecast holds as it looks to be awfully good. Will Gwen get some instruction/site laps to learn the reference points?

Have a great time at T-Hill! :thumbsup:

Thanks buddy! Was good to shake hands with you too!

We settled into Redding for the night -- it was a dilly dally kind of day.... no big rush to get down here... Got all day tomorrow to goof off now.

Hope those heads work out for you!

:cheers:

Ahh Redding.... I spent a month there one night... don't ask. :_paranoid

You got your lines down for the weekend? Got a lap time goal? :lateral:

How was lunch? Katie buy? :D We meet at the Blvd Grille in the summer since the owner is a car guy and blocks a section of the front lot for us.

If they don't work out they'll be the coolest bookends I've ever owned. :D
Taking them to the builder today for a strategic planning session. :unibrow:

Thanks again, enjoy D-D'ing today. Track walk after dinner tonight?

Yeah -- sort of.... I'd like to be 2.08's or better


Visit Redding - Your passport for adventure!


:rofl:

Lunch was fine - can't hurt a Cob salad much... I didn't know Geoff was a car guy... He's Katies boss where he is partner in a pizza joint... so he bought us dessert. Katie ate it.

Those heads will be killer - especially if you go stroker 383... Amazing how much more torque you can get out of 33 more cubic inches. Just keep the rod short.

GM was selling a 383 short block - don't know if they still do - but IIRC it was a bargain.

:cheers:

Greg,

I was planning on trying to come visit you at the track tomorrow, limited time I know. Hope to see ya in the morning.

IIRC Geoff has a blue/white Tri-5.

Torque?????



:unibrow:
I love the sound of that mouse motor.


383 is the plan for the future, I might just do a quickie this season........we'll see after today's get togther.

Excellent Mike! If we're not on the track we'll be sitting on our butts talking smack and ragging on Charley.

We'll be parked as a group at the far end of the paddock from the entrance.

Hey Greg, I don't mean to butt in, but what heads might they be? Reason I ask is I would like to see some more power out of my 388 and right now I am head limited with my Iron Eagle 200s. I'm tentatively keeping my eyes open for any extra info/wisdom I can come across regarding heads for my engine.

Good luck out on track!

I'm running a 408 inch stroker with 180 Dart Aluminum heads - making 525 hp and 481 tq IIRC....

The heads we're referring to are a set of 190 AFR Aluminum heads -- ported etc... and they'll be fine on a 350 ci motor.

I used my Canfield 220cc heads on a BLOWN 383 - made 625 hp and 581 tq on the dyno...

Heads all depend on camshaft - cam - compression - etc and what RPMS you want to make power at. 200's won't have much bottom end.

My 406 on the Dyno with the 180 Dart heads

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...no/406dyno.jpg


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/IMG_1712.jpg



My brother in laws Blown 383 on the dyno with my old Canfield 220cc heads and very mild blower cam.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...dynosheets.jpg

All it really has right now is bottom end, it made 310whp at 5500 with an RPM Gap and a Comp 268 cam. The heads are about 10-12 years old so they are the older style casting from what I understand.

Thanks for the dyno sheets, I'm surprised to see an engine as big as your 406 with 180 heads; I guess they flowed well enough though!

A motor - as you know - is all about the TOTAL COMBO of parts.... and the stated goal.

I wanted a very torquey STREET ROD motor for a heavy car - The Nomad - which weighs in at over 4000 #'s..... has an automatic - and I wanted a fun to drive motor with some power. This motor kicks azz.... puts your butt hard in the seat at very low rpms and pulls like a freight train until you lift. But idles well and keeps the A/C humming...

It's FAR superior to the 427 SBC with the big 220cc Canfield heads that was in it before. As in night and day.

IT'S GO TIME!!!!!
Nothing like adrenaline induced butterflies for breakfast! :thumbsup:

Thanks Greg.

..and remember, NO POINT-BYS!!!

I ran red group today --- no point bys were given by me!

2:12.04 (we use turn 5) was my best lap time during one session. I was too stupid to get the Gtech thingy magingy working correctly - but finally got it to work and clock the laps.


I let Gwen run the car -- but it's too much car for her....


She got to ride along in a Miata with one of the guys that runs here all the time --- and sadly -- in Red group -- I lapped them. :D

Nice that you both enjoy trackin'. :thumbsup:

There both turn 5 bud, only one is the bypass(bypassing the cyclone) and the other is the cyclone. Sounds like you ran cyclone configuration.

Great job! 2:12 is respectable considering the amount of wheel time you've had. :thumbsup:

Talked to Dave and he said he had a great time with you guy's.

NCRC will be running bypass on July 1st. Think you can make that one?

First time is understandable, hopefully it didn't put too much fear in her.

Did she go on ride alongs afterwards?

Can't scare her right now, must get her acclimated for the future. :thumbsup:

Were you satisfied with your overall performance?

If anyone (like me) is trying to negotiate that line between street car and race car, don't go see Greg's Mustang. Unlike 99% of dedicated track cars out there, this one is so much cleaner and I was surprised at just how much the pics don't do it justice. Nice gaps (yeah, I said it Renner) and function AND form was factored in on this build. It's short of license plates and wipers from being one of the nicer cars to show up at our "pro touring" events or gatherings. My drive home was spent seeing which ways I might duplicate the systems in this car. Thanks Greg.... d!ck. :lol:

Oh, and nice driving too Greg. Not too shabby. Got a 2:10 in ya tmrw? :unibrow:

Oh, and to steal your line you used on Mike P today..... it was your pleasure to have been graced with my presence there today. :D

Thanks Dave...... I think....:_paranoid



I was really glad a couple Lat G guys dropped by yesterday. Makes me think I'm at home.:lol:

Trust me -- spending the weekend with Charley is enough to make feel like I want to go home!


I don't know about 2:10's... if they're there they're there. I think I'd likely have a better chance at that in Green group where I wasn't always trying to get by someone?

:woot:

First time I've been to a track day where I didn't have my car there. Thought I'd not enjoy it nearly as much, and while I wish I had my car there, I had a great time and the environment is just tough to beat, even if it was just a few of us. Good times...

Charley is a real hoot. Which car did he bring out today? He wasn't too happy with that janky exhaust mod from yesterday....

Thanks Greg, Charlie and friends for letting me hang out. VERY NICE car Greg. Enjoyed your company, and your driving. Look forward to seeing you guys run again. Hopefully I can get to a happy medium of needed safety items, and keep it safe on the street for my kids to enjoy too, and join you guys soon.

I drove the same 66 Shelby again on Sunday but only for one session. The exhaust mod at the track to make it pass sound made it run like crap. It did make sound though. now the search for a system that is quiet without killing too much power. The good news is Greg only got 1 black flag...

Since when did they start getting serious about db levels out there....they must have hired a new guy.....fricken sound nazi

BTW, how did Jack do?

what happens if they run you clockwise? :unibrow:

I know last fall they started really enforcing 103 db as about 5 of my friends got black flagged. A friend called the city and county about it and they said it was self imposed by SCCA. City and County have no problem with the sound. Apparently there is one neighbor that complains. I would either tell him to pound sand or just impose a 20.00 fine for anyone over 103 db. SCCA could then give the guy the money to shut him up. I would gladly pay 20.00 per day to not have to worry about sound.

Met Jack -- super nice guy and fun to talk to -- he built an awesome car for Greg. I didn't catch his times but he had a well prepped late model Mustang with a big wing. Thing looked fast on track.

Greg/Charley - you catch his times?

Charley -- I didn't look closer, but do those stock cars there from Borelli have driver side exit to pass sound? They seemed pretty loud, as well as that rough white Mustang coupe with the kid driving it with girl passenger.

I clocked Jack at 2:08... It's a really well prepped car - and he can wheel it. Carbon fiber doors and roof... gutted out -- sorted out.
Huge 3:15's all around - compared to Charley and my skinny old skool 2:45's!
Those things are just steam rollers!

So how'd you run today? Car performing well as usual? I am sure it is.

Ran the same consistent 2:12 / 2:14 laps.... Found a cut driver rear tire while checking pressures. Somehow the tire managed to "get into" the fender lip... so of course -- much investigation went on to figure out if something had come loose etc. Nothing had - and one of the very experienced guys said I may have experienced some spring wrap up/wheel hop while loaded or unloaded which may have caused the problem. The cut was only 8 inches long and the damage to the fender lip was almost unnoticeable. But the investigation etc took up most of one session. So only ran for about 5 minutes that session and ran 2 total on Sunday.

We wanted to take the "scenic" route - Hwy 20 along Clear Lake to 101 South then down to St Helena... So we all split after lunch... so it was a short day.

The car runs great and is far faster than the driver.:thumbsup:

I spun in turn 10 after getting a point by - needed some more throttle to get by - then was too far inside... tried to go back wide - brake - heel/toe to 3rd and missed the shift - by that time I was too deep and watched as the overtaken driver blew by me... I did manage to keep the car on track... but of course the old "Will Greg Weld please come to the principles office" black flag was being waved vigorously...:willy: :lol:

Nothing a little roll of a baseball bat wont fix. :unibrow:

Sorry I missed you guys but I skipped a work day on Friday to play with my car and had to go in extra early on Saturday only to find out I was short an interior door. Wasted day....didn't even bother to pull my compressor and gun out of my truck but did manage to complete the demo of the other doors.

So when you coming back to Cali? I still have a couple more times I need to get out to dial my car in. NCRC events preferably as those are the ones that fit my pocket book.

Yeah --- You should have come over... it's way more fun than work!

My next Cali trip will be Northern California Shelby Mini Nats at Sonoma Raceway --- first week of August I think it is.

Your going to love that track. My favorite. You wont get the speeds you see at T-Hill.........maybe 10 mph less top speed......but the configuration along with the turns with elevation changes is great fun. The only turn that gives me the pucker factor there is turn 10. Not a sketchy turn and plenty of visibility but trying to draw as much speed as you can without drifting to far out to the left has always been a thing with me. The end of the esses going into 9 is where ameatures like us could learn to pick up more time. learned that one from my instructor and once he told me i wasn't giving enough throttle down the hill through there I gave it a whirl and picked up at least a second and a half or two.

Hmm...I might have to bite the bullet and meet you guys. Hopefully Dave will be ready by then also.

Greg was so dang fast my camera barely caught a glimpse. That thing sounded good at speed.

It did sound good. :cool: