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INTMD8 12-24-2013 01:59 PM

Thanks guys.

Bowtieracing, I didn't take any other pics of the progress or the stock manifolds, sorry.

INTMD8 12-24-2013 02:01 PM

Well these pics were a nice Christmas present. Ready for chrome!

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/4256/3w1u.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/1538/dif3.jpg

INTMD8 12-26-2013 05:53 PM

Here's the start of my new intercooler. (I ditched the air/air). Holley high ram base and liquid intercooler core that fits it.

Bent up the end tanks and clamped them to the top flange so I could mark the intake manifold for holes to be drilled.

The holes in the end tanks will have long -8 male fittings welded to them and have an external o-ring to seal inside bungs that will be welded to the intake manifold in the same locations. So, when finished I can drop the intercooler core in the intake manifold, the o-rings will seal boost/vacuum and the 3 -8 fittings per side will be the coolant flow inlets/outlets.


http://imageshack.us/a/img196/1585/crls.jpg
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Rick D 12-27-2013 06:09 AM

Nice work Jim, that should clean up the engine compartment nicely!!

Love the wheels, so what did they do different from the first set?

Musclerodz 12-27-2013 07:58 AM

Excellent idea and execution.

INTMD8 12-27-2013 09:52 AM

Rick, the first set were staggered 19/20 and appeared to be 15/16 with the simulated white wall.

This set is the same 20x9 front and rear (and spare) and appear to be 17's.

Center hub is straight instead of angled which ends up with a bigger hubcap, one more groove in the center hub between the fins and the hubcap is sunk into the wheel more so it has less of a front wheel drive look to it.

Also this set will be chrome plated for more bling. I thought the clear coating over polished took away too much luster.



Mike, thanks but it has been done before (well, not sure how the water lines were done) so I can't take credit for the idea. The rest of this project will be unique however. Back to the garage! :)

Rick D 12-27-2013 11:27 AM

How does this intercooler work compaired to a front mount? Is this just for better packaging? I know your not going for all out HP on this one but was wondering if you give a lot to run this setup?

How's the 59 coming?:underchair: :peepwall:

dontlifttoshift 12-27-2013 11:48 AM

Awesome on the heat exchanger.

Who did you find that was willing to chrome plate wheels?

INTMD8 12-27-2013 12:52 PM

Rick, if you run enough water flow through them they work great. The guy who owns the turbo Nova from drag week ran the same core at mid 8's and mid 160mph trap speeds so that's over 1100hp.

The other advantage is more weight is kept behind the front axle instead of leveraged over it way out in the nose, and the induction piping is shorter.

Another option is to run an extra evaporator core that chills the intercooler water and used on demand but since I already have 2 a/c systems I think that would be asking too much of the compressor/condenser.

For a road race car that will see continual wide open throttle use I think air/air is definitely the way to go for the most efficiency.


Donny, the same place that did all of my other chrome parts (Custom Metal Finishing in Indiana) looked into getting the anodes for the wheels and said they could do them no problem

INTMD8 12-27-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 525172)

How's the 59 coming?:underchair: :peepwall:

Slow! Well I do have most of an engine but still no trans. Reground cam, LS1 valves and some bowl work in the heads, LS7 valvesprings, should make at least 200hp! :bang:

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/7788/agr7.jpg
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INTMD8 12-29-2013 09:30 PM

This is what an original 57 Eldorado air cleaner housing looks like-

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8967/d7lz.jpg

What I'm building won't be an exact copy but it will be built in that style. (The overall dimensions are exactly the same as original). Where the oil bath pods originally were on both sides will now be throttle bodies.

I'll start on the top next. Have to order the chrome "V" as well.

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FETorino 12-29-2013 09:35 PM

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Stellar. :king:

As always Jim your build is over the top.



:cheers:

Flash68 12-29-2013 09:40 PM

Holy moly. That is just cool. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 12-30-2013 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 525543)
Holy moly. That is just cool. :thumbsup:





No! That's just cool as hell!!

Rick D 12-30-2013 05:28 AM

:confused59: :confused59: :confused59:

Wow now that is freaking bad azz!! Jim have ever thought of building cars for living?? :idea: :lol:

GregWeld 12-30-2013 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 525563)
:confused59: :confused59: :confused59:

Wow now that is freaking bad azz!! Jim have ever thought of building cars for living?? :idea: :lol:



OR.... Does he want to make a living, so he can build cars????



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jon69RagTop 12-30-2013 05:53 AM

Wow
 
You've got some real talents, nice job-very creative.

INTMD8 12-31-2013 02:01 PM

Thanks guys!

I did some more work on it and ordered the chrome "V" and star nuts. (still not sure if I will put the star nuts on it as I think it looks pretty clean as-is).

Just looking at pics of the original it seemed to peak in the middle but then the entire thing canted back behind the "V". This is just .190 aluminum so I'm not going to try to put a bunch of curves into it but I still made the top out of 2 pieces to somewhat emulate the original.

I'm thinking at this point I will do the engine in the original colors. (Gold batwing and valve covers, everything else dark blue).

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/9287/g66z.jpg
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GregWeld 12-31-2013 02:17 PM

Nice work!



So you may have said this before -- but obviously you've got a couple holes for intake air... What's the plan there? Canisters of some kind ala the original??

INTMD8 12-31-2013 02:57 PM

Thanks Greg.

I have 2 Chevy Cobalt throttle bodies that will go there.

I'm having a friend who owns a machine shop make me some 1/2" thick flanges with the throttle body pattern on one side and 4" round on the other side with an internal bell mouth.

From there I'm not entirely sure yet. I considered making some shrouds to cover the throttle bodies that look like the pods but wanted to see what it looked like first.

waynieZ 12-31-2013 08:35 PM

Awesome!

INTMD8 12-31-2013 08:52 PM

Thanks! From an outside prospective, should I sink the 4 star nuts into the top even if they are obviously not attaching dual carbs or filter pods?

fleet 12-31-2013 09:37 PM

Jim,

I would since you're doing the faux top.

Shoot, some people probably bought those cars just for the batwing. ;)

INTMD8 01-23-2014 08:44 PM

Skip, come on man it's not a faux top! Faux top would be like draping a batwing over the top of a stock LS intake. This one actually works! Well, it will work one day :lol:

I should have this whole induction/intercooler project finished up by the end of the weekend. I'll then show how it all works.

For now, a couple of progress pics....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/42/1l3x.jpg
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Rick D 01-24-2014 05:18 AM

Very nice Jim! Man at this rate you should be done with the car by the time you retire! :lol: but seriously you are really stepping it up on this car!!!

INTMD8 01-24-2014 06:38 PM

Thanks Rick! Yeah it's kind of depressing that I've owned this car for 2 and a half years and there is no end in sight. Probably doesn't help that I keep getting ideas that require me to rebuild everything I've already done, LOL

67zo6Camaro 01-24-2014 09:45 PM


awesome sauce

INTMD8 01-26-2014 01:57 PM

Thanks!

I didn't get the throttle body flanges so I can't finish it this weekend but here is the liquid side of it.

Triple 5/8 inlet and outlet tubes on the core end tanks drop through internally o-ringed bungs welded to the lower intake plenum. Hoses connect to water manifolds (with stepped internal directors to help promote even flow) terminating to a single 1" inlet and outlet through the rear bulkhead of the intake.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/834/4ria.jpg
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clill 01-26-2014 02:00 PM

Son of a bitch that is trick...

E.rodz 01-26-2014 05:36 PM

wow you continue to amaze me with your out of the box thinking! and your persistent desire to get the car done some day! keep on it my friend and it will be done with no regrets!:thumbsup:

Jr 01-27-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 531939)
Thanks!

I didn't get the throttle body flanges so I can't finish it this weekend but here is the liquid side of it.

Triple 5/8 inlet and outlet tubes on the core end tanks drop through internally o-ringed bungs welded to the lower intake plenum. Hoses connect to water manifolds (with stepped internal directors to help promote even flow) terminating to a single 1" inlet and outlet through the rear bulkhead of the intake.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/826/leab.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/829/x6fv.jpg

What kind of power will this support? It does look badass!

Code510 01-27-2014 03:07 PM

:king: :king: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

INTMD8 01-27-2014 05:39 PM

LOL thanks guys.

As for the intercooler and it's capability, I got the idea from TurboBu's Nova as 417 built a setup for him with a liquid core in a high ram base.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...2&postcount=19

I think it's the same core, not sure how his water flow is ran but he said flow was limited and his car still runs mid 8's/1100hp.

In other words it should handle way more power than this car is capable of making.

TurboBu 01-28-2014 07:14 AM

The original for my street strip car that was custom built to fit under the stock hood on my street strip 62 Chevy II
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...psd42f6385.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps2a6cb9e1.jpg
The production model of which you can buy today. It adds 2.5" to the height of the intake, works with either a Hi-ram or Mid-rise Holley intake (obviously any intake can be made to work with the right fab), is 100% American made, has (4)-12 o-ring fittings, and we are told by the core manufacture that it will have no problem supporting 1500hp. The Mid-Rise with the cooler is about the same overall height as a Hi-Ram w/o the cooler.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps467b48fe.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/s...psead47f78.jpg

Anyone interested in more information can email me at [email protected] I don't make of these and didn't bring up the subject, I was asked for more information so I provided it. Please don't delete this post.

Windsor GTO 01-28-2014 07:38 AM

This is amazing
 
The work is great. I cant wait to see the finished product

INTMD8 01-28-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboBu (Post 532254)
The original for my street strip car that was custom built to fit under the stock hood on my street strip 62 Chevy II
http://rs574.pbsrc.com/albums/ss190/...85.jpg~320x480

So the one built for your car had 2 inlets and outlets? What size?

INTMD8 01-28-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windsor GTO (Post 532257)
The work is great. I cant wait to see the finished product

Thanks :)

TurboBu 01-30-2014 08:42 PM

(2) -10 inlets (2) -10 outlets but only a single 5/8" heater hose to and from the trunk. All of that is changing to 4 -12 hoses from to rear and a production intercooler on a custom intake to test the i/c.

INTMD8 01-31-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboBu (Post 532903)
(2) -10 inlets (2) -10 outlets but only a single 5/8" heater hose to and from the trunk. All of that is changing to 4 -12 hoses from to rear and a production intercooler on a custom intake to test the i/c.

Damn, I'm surprised you fit -10 through the bottom. (unless you married the core to the intake).

Your planned changes will make a huge difference!

INTMD8 01-31-2014 06:11 PM

Throttle bodies are on. -3 fitting under the front star nut connects a short line to the top/front of the core end tank. Removing the nut will be the high point air bleed when filling the system.

Since I decided the car will be flex fuel but primarily ran on E85 (and in the tradition of doing everything twice) I ordered a new pump setup from Squash performance. Designed as a return type system, billet top and hanger with dual Walbro E85 pumps.

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