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makoshark 05-28-2012 04:11 PM

Looks good! What did you do to the rear package tray? Also, was your car a vinyl top car?

Sonar Chief 05-28-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 416920)
Looks good! What did you do to the rear package tray? Also, was your car a vinyl top car?

Thanks ... thought the wind would never die down.

I removed the glue and paint from the tray and the surrounding areas (discing anything with gold) and started on the inside panels up to the roof, surface rust of course :mad:
No vinyl top car here just a plain coupe!

makoshark 05-28-2012 04:33 PM

I see you have a replacement rear window filler panel you primed. It's been with my experience most vinyl top cars would typically rot in the seam of that panel. My car is originally a vinyl top car and it had some pretty bad rot there which forced me to replace that panel. As with all reproduction panels, it needed tweaking to fit right up against my NOS quarters.

My computer won't read my memory card for some reason, so I haven't been able to make any updates on my car. I've been making progress though.

Sonar Chief 05-28-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 416926)
I see you have a replacement rear window filler panel you primed. It's been with my experience most vinyl top cars would typically rot in the seam of that panel. My car is originally a vinyl top car and it had some pretty bad rot there which forced me to replace that panel. As with all reproduction panels, it needed tweaking to fit right up against my NOS quarters.

My computer won't read my memory card for some reason, so I haven't been able to make any updates on my car. I've been making progress though.

The filler panel rusted from water sitting in the lip under the weatherstripping was glued. I know now to use the self leveling sealer in this area to prevent water from getting between.
Hey, did you ever get the parts from that warehouse deal? I saw you got one mini tub in, how's the other one coming along? I haven't ordered mine yet.

makoshark 05-28-2012 05:24 PM

Self-leveling seam sealer where? In the rear window filler panel to quarter or in the trunk weatherstrip seam area?

I have the mini tubs done. I still need to attach the passenger side trunk support brace and then make the closeout pieces at the package tray area. I'm thinking about making a panel that closes off the trunk completely from the interior compartment, so not ready to finish that part yet.

I do have the new part here. Ready whenever you are:)

Sonar Chief 05-28-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 416937)
Self-leveling seam sealer where? In the rear window filler panel to quarter or in the trunk weatherstrip seam area?

I have the mini tubs done. I still need to attach the passenger side trunk support brace and then make the closeout pieces at the package tray area. I'm thinking about making a panel that closes off the trunk completely from the interior compartment, so not ready to finish that part yet.

I do have the new part here. Ready whenever you are:)

In the trunk weatherstrip lip where the rear filler and the speaker shelf meet needs self leveling seam sealer.

Congrats on the mini tubs :hail:
Thanks on the gas cap ... I won't forget!

Steve68 05-29-2012 04:42 AM

Primer looks good, now your tree wont rust!!!

waynieZ 05-29-2012 10:14 AM

I know money doesn't grow on trees but your lucky down in Texas you have Camaro parts growing on trees. If you wait longer do they turn from green to another color when they're ripe?? It looks like you did a nice job laying down the primer. :thumbsup:

Sonar Chief 05-29-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve68 (Post 416993)
Primer looks good, now your tree wont rust!!!

You know I didn't think of that :D ... thanks for the words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 417029)
I know money doesn't grow on trees but your lucky down in Texas you have Camaro parts growing on trees. If you wait longer do they turn from green to another color when they're ripe?? It looks like you did a nice job laying down the primer. :thumbsup:

Yeah, these parts will go from green to GOLD when ripe :lol: I have had my DeVilbiss HVLP gun for 15 years and I keep telling myself I need a new one, and every time I spray something new it comes out perfect :yes: No need to change I guess.

Thanks for noticing!

Roberts68 05-29-2012 03:14 PM

I had forgotten that your car was gold. You have mentioned it a couple times lately and that reminded me that was a commonality we had, except mine was Ash gold being a '68.

You should be very proud of that tree. If you have anything small like a sidemarker bezel or bracket off of it you don't need ship it to MN!

I could plant it. We'll see if it takes. I'd water it real well, it is farm country.... Similar growing season and climate really.:D

Keep up the great work Chief! A little every day is a tough oath to keep but I am trying to get there.

Sonar Chief 05-29-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 417072)
I had forgotten that your car was gold. You have mentioned it a couple times lately and that reminded me that was a commonality we had, except mine was Ash gold being a '68.

You should be very proud of that tree. If you have anything small like a sidemarker bezel or bracket off of it you don't need ship it to MN!

I could plant it. We'll see if it takes. I'd water it real well, it is farm country.... Similar growing season and climate really.:D

Keep up the great work Chief! A little every day is a tough oath to keep but I am trying to get there.

Yeah thanks, I think that tree is a 67 only year, as of yet - no marker lights, sorry :rofl:

Little everyday is right - colonoscopy this morning and I'm sitting on the porch with a grey scotch brite scuffing the intake and the water pump for the third coat of POR15 :thumbsup:
Just gotta get done ... might as well be now!

Steve68 05-29-2012 06:47 PM

I thought after the procedure you were having a "grey scotch", and I was thinking whats "grey scotch", then I saw the word "brite"? LOL

Roberts68 05-29-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve68 (Post 417110)
I thought after the procedure you were having a "grey scotch", and I was thinking whats "grey scotch", then I saw the word "brite"? LOL

I did a double take at that one too! Glad I'm not the only one.

BTW, Hope that procedure was uneventful and all is well.

Sonar Chief 05-29-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve68 (Post 417110)
I thought after the procedure you were having a "grey scotch", and I was thinking whats "grey scotch", then I saw the word "brite"? LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 417111)
I did a double take at that one too! Glad I'm not the only one.

BTW, Hope that procedure was uneventful and all is well.

All is well .... just a hoop you gotta jump thru when you turn OLD :unibrow:

Sonar Chief 06-02-2012 10:08 AM

More POR15
 
Almost finished the intake last nite, need to do the water pump still, so I taped off the exhaust around the headers this morning. I then realized I've had these headers since 2000 and have never bolted them on to the engine .... guess I'm not alone amongst the gearheads? :thumbsup:
So ... not too exciting, but the POR is soaking into the Al intake (3 coats) so I may spray the heads after masking off and see if there is a primer I can use first to help with coverage, who knows?

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8598/120602602.jpg
She's ORANGE :thumbsup:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5684/120602597.jpg
Headers bolted on for the first time!

While the intake is drying I'm gonna get the underside of the deck lid cleaned off and maybe spray some epoxy later today .... supposed to have severe thunder storms and HAIL? today :(

I hope not cuz I just got my trunk outa the body shop Friday from the last hail storm, new hood and paint and PDR on the roof.

Continued .....

Roberts68 06-02-2012 01:12 PM

That's a pretty killer looking motor in my opinion. I love the sbc orange against the aluminum, and the intake is really intriguing me. I fought smoke stains on mine last summer trying several products by spot treating it for effectiveness.
When all is said and done I could have just pulled it and reblasted it. When I painted the motor it did cross my mind to do the intake.

Did I read you are using POR in different colors or am I imagining that?

I take it you are really a fan of the POR products?

I am looking to select a really tough black for the undercarriage and other areas. I do not want to spray it in some areas though to avoid the risk of under masking and getting overspray.

Sonar Chief 06-02-2012 01:50 PM

POR15 is the sheets!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 417748)
That's a pretty killer looking motor in my opinion. I love the sbc orange against the aluminum, and the intake is really intriguing me. I fought smoke stains on mine last somer trying several products by spot treating it for effectiveness.
When all is said and done I could have just pulled it and reblasted it. When I painted the motor it did cross my mind to do the intake.

Did I read you are using POR in different colors or am I imagining that?

I take it you are really a fan of the POR products?

I am looking to select a really tough black for the undercarriage and other areas. I do not want to spray it in some areas though.


Thanks .... yes I am using different colors of POR, silver for the body work and then cover that with their Chasis Coat Black (knowing you covered everything with change of colors) and of course Chevy Orange for the motor.
As long as you use their Prep and Ready and Marine Clean this stuff will last forever :thumbsup:

I will reduce their black and spray my undercarriage and then a liner spray for texture and reduce chips/ sound deadener.

Did the underside of the trunk and then it's blowing and raining outside of course ... and what's up with the METRIC bolts in the latch? :( repop!

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4517/120602604.jpg
Ready for epoxy.

So I'm gonna keep going and get the cowl stripped and ready for epoxy.

Roberts68 06-02-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 417750)
Thanks .... yes I am using different colors of POR, silver for the body work and then cover that with their Chasis Coat Black (knowing you covered everything with change of colors) and of course Chevy Orange for the motor.
As long as you use their Prep and Ready and Marine Clean this stuff will last forever :thumbsup:

I will reduce their black and spray my undercarriage and then a liner spray for texture and reduce chips/ sound deadener.

When you are painting in your laundry room etc are you brushing it on with those results? If you are I am more impressed with either you or the product. :rofl:

It looks surprisingly smooth and glossy so I have to ask how you are laying it down.

I want to paint/coat my floor 1st without masking everything inside/out. I have a rear diff and new leaf springs I want to do too as far as black goes right now.

Sonar Chief 06-02-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 417751)
When you are painting in your laundry room etc are you brushing it on with those results? If you are I am more impressed with either you or the product. :rofl:

It looks surprisingly smooth and glossy so I have to ask how you are laying it down.

I want to paint/coat my floor 1st without masking everything inside/out. I have a rear diff and new leaf springs I want to do too as far as black goes right now.

It's mostly the POR :thumbsup: ... I have found that if you use a foam brush it lays down smoother and I use the laundry room to keep crap out of the finish. You have to lay down two coats min just as the POR is tacky it will take ....if you let it dry you have to use their Self Etching Primer or a grey scotch brite to get the bite for additional coats.

I can't see doing the undercarriage by brush :willy: so I'll buy their reducer and spray on the black.

67goatman455 06-02-2012 05:34 PM

WOW! I cant believe you have so much motivation still! I'm worried about how much rust mine may have now :/ Keep on going! You are doing a very good job at doing everything right the first time!

Sonar Chief 06-02-2012 07:39 PM

Persistence!
 
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Originally Posted by 67goatman455 (Post 417767)
WOW! I cant believe you have so much motivation still! I'm worried about how much rust mine may have now :/ Keep on going! You are doing a very good job at doing everything right the first time!

Hey thanks 67goatman455 ... my motivation comes from wanting to drive my Camaro :thumbsup: I am realistic and know not everything will work the first time and that's hot rodding, but I'll do my best to minimize the down time by doing it right the first time.

Got the cowl finished today and I thought maybe I'd be able to spray epoxy later but the wind is kicking and it's spitting again ... maybe tomorrow.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/408/120602609.jpg
Finished the cowl.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5810/120602613.jpg
Little finish work left.

I still need to weld the OEM brackets and wiring hold downs to the new cowl, it's always something huh :thumbsup:

makoshark 06-02-2012 09:02 PM

Almost ready for the mini tubs. Looking good

Sonar Chief 06-02-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 417807)
Almost ready for the mini tubs. Looking good

Almost ready? ... you got me scared about doing mini tubs now, thanks :wow:

makoshark 06-02-2012 10:18 PM

HAHA! There's not so bad. I just have a tendency to over-complicate things. You can handle 'em!

Sonar Chief 06-03-2012 12:50 PM

Spraying Epoxy
 
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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 417844)
HAHA! There's not so bad. I just have a tendency to over-complicate things. You can handle 'em!

There is always a first for everything right?

Got everything prepped for some epoxy this morning and as I got ready the heat increased, man it's gotta be 90 out right now, but the epoxy laid down nice. It's a milestone to get some parts in epoxy, it's gonna be cool to see the body ready for primer :thumbsup:
The cowl was a PITA to sand the inside, so much that I cut my arm and was bleeding all over the cowl, then I had to clean all the spots of blood off :( But the cowl came out great and looks nice on the car ... just gotta keep going.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2643/120603616.jpg
Sprayin epoxy finally!
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4638/120603631.jpg
That was alota work for some color :lol:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/343/120603623.jpg
Underside is nice now!
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8928/120603628.jpg
Gotta ding that needs filling, no biggy!

I think I'm gonna POR my water pump in the laundry room and stay cool ... too hot in the garage!
Thanks for looking .... more to come:cheers:

Sonar Chief 06-06-2012 07:32 PM

Time well spent
 
in the garage with the DeWalt discing some of the interior panels. Between the garage being around 90 degrees and the smell of lacquer thinner to clean the undercoating I was starting to hallucinate, so only a couple hours stay time.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7717/120606635.jpg
Getting ready for epoxy.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2315/120606638.jpg
Rust on the inside of the quarter :(
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8720/120606634.jpg
Got both sides down to metal.

The inside of the quarter panel has rust issues and I'm not sure how to take care of that ( I really don't want to do full quarters) ... the more I dig the more rust I find :mad:
Think I'm gonna have to invest in a sand blaster ... suggestions?

Thanks for looking...

Roberts68 06-06-2012 08:01 PM

A small sandblaster isn't a bad investment. Do you have enough air to run one is another question? A guy where I used to work had a very small pistol grip style with a hopper on top. Try searching spotblaster, that might be the trade name.

The pot style are cfm consuming beasts and when I borrowed one 2 decades ago is what prompted me to buy my 6.5hp/60gal upright. It has served me pretty well but there are far more impressive compressors out there... albeit they are 4 times the investment and up.

I wanted to ask what primer you are using. I was recommended Dupont dp90 tonight and I don't know anything about primers/paints to speak of.

makoshark 06-06-2012 08:53 PM

Where inside the quarter are there rust issues? Around the wheel well lip?

Sonar Chief 06-07-2012 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 418413)
Where inside the quarter are there rust issues? Around the wheel well lip?

The rust issues can be seen in the photos above, the inside of the quarters up high above the wheelwells, you can also see the rust when you look up straight up from the wheelwells.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 418408)
A small sandblaster isn't a bad investment. Do you have enough air to run one is another question? A guy where I used to work had a very small pistol grip style with a hopper on top. Try searching spotblaster, that might be the trade name.

The pot style are cfm consuming beasts and when I borrowed one 2 decades ago is what prompted me to buy my 6.5hp/60gal upright. It has served me pretty well but there are far more impressive compressors out there... albeit they are 4 times the investment and up.

I wanted to ask what primer you are using. I was recommended Dupont dp90 tonight and I don't know anything about primers/paints to speak of.

Yeah I don't have the cfm to run a pot blaster, I have been getting by with a 3hp, someday I would like to upgrade to a 6hp 60 gal 230/1, but that is another big purchase I need to save up for .... :thumbsup:

I am using Acme Finish1 epoxy made be Martin Seymour and sold at our NAPA, it is a really nice product and lays down nice. I have used Martin Seymour primers before and they are high quality - hate to pay for just a name such as Dupont.

Thanks for looking ...

makoshark 06-08-2012 03:39 AM

Mine were rotten around the wheel well opening. Every where else, with the exception on the drivers quarter at the rear window filler panel, was rust free. Your's look no where near as rusted as mine did. Quite frankly, I'm not seeing any rust issues from your pictures

Sonar Chief 06-08-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 418600)
.....Quite frankly, I'm not seeing any rust issues from your pictures

From the inside look where the courtesy light would be mounted in the sail panel ... that's rust on the inside of the quarter. And when I removed the wheel wells .... there's a picture of the inside of the quarter through where the wells were. AND ... the driver's side quarter where it meets the rear window channel I'm gonna have to replace that angle part cuz of rust ... it's pretty thin and bubbled. :(
Not sure if I can get that blasted or not, sure gonna try that first, we'll see.

Sonar Chief 06-10-2012 03:23 PM

Spent time in
 
the trunk getting ready for epoxy. I started and figured I'd stay until it was done, and I didn't want to have to keep climbing in and out :unibrow:

Went to the GG car show yesterday and saw some awesome cars and meet some nice folks ... and took a lot of pictures. And then I came home and got to work on mine :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Took some pixs of the quarter panel channel with the rust ... I'm gonna try and cut out the rust and break out my shrinker/ stretcher and follow the quarter panel down to the filler panel. Worse case scenario I replace the quarter :willy:

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/9190/120610843.jpg
Driver's side rust
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3739/120610846.jpg
Underside
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6961/120610844.jpg
Passenger side rust
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3757/120610848.jpg
I made it out :thumbsup:
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2550/120610857.jpg
POR15 the trunk on the way out!

Not so exciting but I was out there working on my car :cheers:

Thanks ...

coolwelder62 06-10-2012 04:15 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Way too keep at it.

Spiffav8 06-10-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 419039)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Way too keep at it.

X2

:captain:

Sonar Chief 06-10-2012 07:14 PM

Thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 419039)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Way too keep at it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 419054)
X2

:captain:

Thanks a lot guys .... I do appreciate the comments :thumbsup:
There is always something to do on the car and I find these and get at her with the time I have that day.

waynieZ 06-11-2012 12:03 PM

Nice job on a crappy place to work in! You did an awesome job in there. My back is hurting just thinking about being in there.

Sonar Chief 06-11-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 419178)
Nice job on a crappy place to work in! You did an awesome job in there. My back is hurting just thinking about being in there.

Thanks ... if my trunk comes out half as nice as yours I'll be doing the happy dance.
Any new updates on the car? I check every now and then ... just wondering.

Sonar Chief 06-23-2012 08:14 PM

Update 6/23
 
I know I have not posted in awhile ... it's field season and as a Fisheries Biologist that means you are in the field.
I have been working on a project that will help biologists determine species composition of their waters ... it's a tethered ROV (remote operated vehicle with video, lights and thrusters) that can be deployed from the boat and in conjunction with the sonar surveys provide live video (FISH PORN) back to the surface. We tested the ROV couple days ago and it works:thumbsup: :thumbsup: ,I made the cage outa 3/16 Al but .... I need to make some larger fins to stabilize the cage but she works and that's kool :cheers:

Anyway, today was 102 and I spent most of the day getting ready for epoxy primer on the NOS fenders when it cooled off ..... mark time 2045 and tha's cuz I was running outa light. I didn't have enough primer to do the inside but I got the bare steel in primer and that's a good day.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9733/120623892.jpg
NOS fenders in primer!
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2299/120623889.jpg
Yeah it's dark now!
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5498/120619875j.jpg
It's not the Camaro but I built it for work!
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4606/120622886.jpg
The ROV inside the cage ... "Scooter":thumbsup:

I am gonna present my FISH PORN for the first time next week in Utah during a sonar workshop ... should go over well:woot:

Thanks for looking .... later.

Steve68 06-24-2012 06:56 AM

Primer looks good,

Liking the GI joe sub!!!

looks like fun to play remote control. what kind of fish are you looking at,

Sonar Chief 06-24-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve68 (Post 421177)
Primer looks good,

Liking the GI joe sub!!!

looks like fun to play remote control. what kind of fish are you looking at,

Thanks .... I don't think a GI Joe would fit inside! BUT ... it is fun to control (read - addicting) the ROV or just let it sit and have the fish swim by the ROV.

Fish species varies with body of water, we are gonna use the ROV to keep track of KOKanee in our large res that we take spawn. But the ROV can be used for various missions.


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