100 percent right. Diet alone won't do it alone! You will starve yourself to death and feel horrible. You have o kick up your metabolism. That's what I love about running, I ran 9miles this morning burned almost 1000 calories. I'm good to go rest of the day

I used to lift weights all the time in college.... now at 38 yrs, I just can not stand the thought of working out. Or running. I tried doing that P90x thing with my wife and I got bored.. or lazy. :D Everytime I see someone running, I say to myself, 'That does not look like fun.'

I DO like riding my mt. bike. We have some great *flat* paved trails around here. I guess the key is finding something you enjoy doing. Otherwise it will just seem like a chore.

But fitness with a poor diet isn't any better than no fitness and a great diet, IMO.

I used to say the same thing about runners. Now, I crave runs.

You bring up a good point and it touches on a topic I've mentioned a few times. You have to find a work out that you can stick with for life. I don't care if it's a walk around the neighborhood, everybody needs to excercise. We are meant to be active, not couch potatoes.

I'd tend to say that an individual with a great diet and clean lifestyle will out last an individual with a poor diet/lifestyle and a good work out ethic.

I've done the work outs with decent nutrition/poor lifestyle and dedicated work outs and felt like ****. I've never had great nutrition and no work outs and never plan to either. I want both.

"Success is making your life what YOU want it to be"

"Remember, success is not a set of standards from our culture but rather a collection of personal values clearly defined and ultimately achieved."

-Jim Rohn

These quotes really hit home for me. For one guy, success may be Greg Weld rich and the lifestyle it permits. The next guy is happy being a social worker and helping people everyday of his life with his 1 bedroom apartment. You get the point. They both feel rich and fulfilled in very different ways.

The sooner you figure out what makes YOU happy in life, the more fulfilled you will be at the end of the road. Also, the more negative influences and parasitic waste of life you eliminate, the more natural fulfillment will come.

One of the many things I like in The Compound Effect is the subject of self improvement. The best way to improve yourself is to be a positive influence on other people and help them achieve success. Those relationships will naturally blossom and you will end up benefiting from them as well. Whether it's your spouse, friends, employees, coworker, or even a perfect stranger. Be the bigger man.

So.... only since you mentioned me....

I can/will relate a statement I made many times to my beautiful bride while at the Monaco Grand Prix. Every time she asked if I was enjoying the trip - my response was - "Yeah... but I'd just as soon be in Willows at the Mexican food joint with my buddies".

I was serious.

I don't care about money. What makes me happy is being ABLE to do what I enjoy... and that is the ability to go hang with my friends, in blue jeans and an oil stained T shirt.

I work out to stay healthy enough to get through the day... lugging tires - loading unloading cars - driving etc. Not to loose weight or be buff... :willy: :cheers:


Now I'm going to go out to the shed and finish welding and installing Rudy's exhaust system. Once again I'll be doing exactly what makes me happy.

Such a great point. I have a lifelong friend who has nothing to give but his time. And he spreads it around to everyone that he knows. Almost too much. The lesson he taught me was "when you honor your friends, you honor yourself."

Taking a moment to improve the lives of others does lead to a sort of fulfillment that cannot be achieved any other way.

Greg, my point was that many people judge success by their bank balance instead of the meat and potatoes of life. Clearly you seem to have both which is great man. :cheers:

Clearly you had to become the person it takes to STAY wealthy. It's one thing to have money, it's another to keep it.

:captain:

This is the healthiest advice in this whole thread. Finding a positive center in your life whatever that may be, is ideal to ultimate health. It's the quest for inner peace and outward enjoyment of life, and that's achieved differently for everyone.

Being a co-survivor, this article is very interesting to me, so I thought I'd share it.

http://blog.imva.info/medicine/baking-soda-cancer-laugh

Tony, what's a "co-survivior"? is it you had cancer or you spouse? or?

My wife had it. She finished up her chemo this summer and has a clean bill of health along with her hair growning back. :woot:

Co-survivors are immediate family members.

You guys are so Zen and enlightened :hail:

Ron is a good egg and took some time for me one day to practice what he's preaching, thanks Ron.


Oh and Todd you are dead on with these statements. :thumbsup:


Long story I don't want to out you guys to sleep with but I have been sitting on my A$$ since the first of this year. I suddenly realized I was about to become a sloth. My buddy I used to ride with was racing in the Over the Hump Mountian bike series so I showed up cold turkey after not riding for a year (I've rode around the block in the last year but not an actual mtn bike ride)

Anyway me, my Niner single speed finished the race in 95 deg heat but I'm not proud of my ranking. I'm back next week to do it again. I got a training ride in last night.

still chugging along here. Took a week break while on Vacation at Hot August Nights in Reno, and only gained 2lbs (tried to eat as healthy as i could with no fridge, stove or microwave) lol. So i think i did pretty good.

back on track today tho.

ran 14.1 on saturday as part of my long slow run (9:45 pace) training for my first marathon and then lifted/ran 3mi recovery run yesterday. then for today i did my 200 pushups/200 setups, planks(normal and side)and i'm good to go.

Not trying to lose weight, the exercise itself takes care of that.

Dude, you are a beast.

far from it, but training for a marathon is tough, mentally more than anything. To think i had to run a extra 12 miles on top of what i ran on saturday is difficult. I like lifting but its tough when your running 30+ miles a week and after not lifting for a couple of days i feel flabby so to speak. Its a challenge, but its a good diversion from cars. thats for sure.

I smell an anorexic in the room...:lol:

I just caught up the last 10 pages of reading, very inspirational.

Man I can lift up a house, but I'm not tough enough for a marathon, huge respect.

The only cardio I can stomach is a 10 min thrash on the cross trainer, a 20 min fast jog or some mountain biking, Distance running takes way more resolve than I have

Weighed in at 177.0 this morning. Two more lbs to my new goal weight. Down from 195 earlier this year.

After my run today, I checked my heart rate drop. It was 168 immediately after and 152 1 minute later. I just read if your heart rate drops less than 12 you need to work on your cardio fitness. I'd have to pull the article but your heart rate must be elevated to between a value and 80% of max before you can check it.

"Learn to work harder on yourself than you do on your job"

"Most of what you have today you have attracted by becoming the person you are today"

-Jim Rohn

What Jim means by that quote is your health, diet, relationships, fincances, and knowledge base. When those areas of your life improve, it will spill over into your career in a very positive way.

Yeah the best thing about reasonable distance runs is that it helps you recover much quicker when you do more intense bursts of activities. Like boxers running the 5 miles in the morning

health/wealth/love all need work:thumbsup:

This is one of my new favorite blogs. It touches on wide range of topics.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/

This is what Crossfit is all about. I have not looked into very much, but it's training like a warrior instead of distance running and lifting 'reps'. The guy and his wife up the street do it and they're in great shape.

yes "crossfit" its 2012s "birkram yoga" lol
crossfits centers have been popping up like weeds around here this year.
just like birkram places in 2010 .

but the nutritionist my wife talks with (her client) does it and swears by it, he's been training for many year but says he feels hes in the best shape ever from doing crossfit. he said the actual work out is only around 20 min. but its pretty $$$

this is whats great about exercising. There are tons of different approaches that will ultimately land us all in the same sort of state. Healthy Living!! It is not as much what you do, but that you do it. the minute you start exercising your body responds. i like to run and lift, others like to bike or swim or crossfit etc. etc. etc. Its all good. Plus its good to mix up stuff too, to confuse your muscles and work them in different ways. i just don't have the time right now, but after my marathon, you bet I will be mixing it up alot more. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: to everyone who is on this bandwagon. Just don't fall off!!

Yep seems to be the latest trend, but from little I read about it sound rooted in good methods...I'm all for the evolution of training.... Anyone remember the aerobic/butt floss fad? lmao

My trainer and I talked about Crossfit today! He has a client that says it's the best thing that ever happened to her practice (some kind of sports medicine Doc)... wishes they'd open more of them.

This is probably the 10th time I've said it but, do you want to make a lifestyle change for a few weeks or life? Crossfit looks about like basic training or an mma fighter getting ready for his next rumble.

If you don't enjoy it, you won't continue to do it. I will admit the crossfit deal intrigues me, I just know it will be short lived. I'd rather find my natural balance in diet and excercise knowing that I can cement it into my life instead of quitting because it's to hard or time consuming for daily life.

It's not what you do sometimes that matters, it's what you do all the time.

Great thread guys. I began my road back to fitness about 4 years ago. After many years of eating out and working in front of a computer, I was 39 years old and 210 lbs. My initial goal was to be under 200 lbs. by my 40th birthday. Since then, I've dealt with cancer including multiple surgeries, chemo and radiation. I can tell you first hand that exercising and eating right will definitely help get you through those challenges. I'm now 43 years old and weigh 170 lbs. (my college weight) at approx. 12% body fat and I've never felt better. My current lifestyle includes:

1) 30-minute high intensity workouts with a personal trainer (2-3 per week)
2) 3.5 mile runs twice per week
3) Eating 6-7 times per day - small meals
4) High protein, low carb diet plan (but I cycle my carbs higher 2 days per week)
5) I try to completely restrict intake of refined sugars and wheat products (bread and pasta) and get most of my carbs from veggies, oatmeal, sweet potatoes, and lower-sugar fruits. However, I allow myself to eat whatever I want on Saturdays after lunch time.
6) I try to set intermediate goals every 6-8 weeks to keep motivation levels up. Goals have ranged from training for a run, to reducing body fat %, to losing x pounds for a specific event.

Good luck to all of you in achieving your health goals. This car thing can only be enjoyed if you are healthy enough to partake.

--Neil

Neil, you have it figured out. :thumbsup: Glad to hear you are feeling fantastic!

Crossfit is dubious in my experience. There's some awful form demonstrated on many of the lifts and very little training of how to do things properly, essentially a load of injuries waiting to happen.

Many people are in great shape from doing it, but I bet they were already in great shape.

It's fashionable for some mad reason, but then if that kind of training appeals then go for it.

I think you'd get more from a decent proven weightlifting routine with a mixture of mountainbiking and "fun" sports.

I mentioned him already in this thread, but Dan John, has tried it all and is very entertaining http://danjohn.net/

That was my point in post #269....


The sports med doc said it was the best thing that ever happened to her business!

Picked up a copy of the Compound Effect. Read the 1st two chapters and I'm already motivated for the change ahead.

:thumbsup: That's great Jose.

It changed my life and I'm not afraid to say it. Make sure you actually write down the answers at the end of the chapters and underline the parts that really hit home. I've read it 4 times and read my underlined sentences countless times. I'm rereading Jim Rohns book "7 Stratagies for Wealth & Happiness" right now as well. It's a great next book for you. I've become a big fan of his as well.

every few years the Fitness people come up with some great idea's

Reebok Step - was a Podiatrists Dream not to mention and Orthopedics dream.

Okay if your truly looking for a great book all about strength and conditioning the real way and trust me this will be something you can actully do for a life time. Jack LaLanne was about trianing with his body weight.

Convict Conditioning

So I just stumbled across this and read through it all. I'm 39 and have been watching my weight slowly go up and my pants size go up. I even started buying expandable waist pants and telling myself I was still a 36" even though they were starting to feel tight all the way stretched out. I had been floating around 215 at 5' 11" and even 218 one time I weighed.

I am away from home work 13+ hours a day between work and commute ,and have infant twins and a 6yo. Gym time is just not going to happen. I have been telling myself I need to do something for the last year but never found the inspiration.

July 12' it was announced we were having a biggest looser contest at work with a weigh in July 15. $50.00 buy in winner take all the last day of August. I said what the heck. July 14 I went to the steak house and had my last meal of my old life. 12 of us signed up and we were off.

I did not smoke or drink but I used to eat 3 large meals a day with dessert at least twice a day mixed in with 2-4 Dr Peppers. I walked a lot work probably 3-4miles a day walking back and forth in the shop but no other physical activity.

I will admit my week was hell. My average day would be french toast sticks and a breakfast sandwich, Bacon Cheese Burger for lunch and a giant plate of spaggetti for dinner. I now have yogart with banana and granola, grilled chicken garden salad and a reasonable dinner. Changed DP to Unsweet tea and apple pie to an apple with peanut butter.

I also started running every other night after the babies are in bed. I live on an 1/8 mile street. The first night it almost killed me to jog to the end and mix running and walking 4 laps to the end and back. After only a month I am running the first 3 trips there and back and have upped the laps to 6.

As of this morning I was at 193.4 lbs 21 lbs lighter than I was 4 weeks ago.

I started this all hoping to win the money and maybe loose a few lbs. Now I don't even care. That $50.00 I spent may be the most important money I have spent in my life. I feel better, my stretched 36" pants have to be tightened 3 belt loops to stay up and strangest thing is I already don't really miss all my favorite old foods.

^^ Yeah that's great to read! :thumbsup: