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Ns RS 06-04-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678350)
Too late --- she's already been gone a week. Seems one of the guys at the construction project down the street had some Snap-On tools a relative left him. So far I've tried the 9/16" box end and it seems to work real well ---- so maybe I got a pretty good deal.

Greg unlike the rest of these yahoos that are easily swayed by your charm & good looks, size of your “tool box”, endless supply of rick Simpson oil and exceptional taste in top notch builders - atleast most of the time, I only like you as a friend...xoxo tell Gwen hi for me )

Blake Foster 06-05-2018 06:50 AM

I love how ALL of your threads just go right off the deep end!!! too funny

dontlifttoshift 06-05-2018 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678350)
Too late --- she's already been gone a week. Seems one of the guys at the construction project down the street had some Snap-On tools a relative left him. So far I've tried the 9/16" box end and it seems to work real well ---- so maybe I got a pretty good deal.

:confused59: Todays edition of quote out of context.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peop...-17-hours.html


NOW, it's off the deep end. :drowninga:

GregWeld 06-05-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ns RS (Post 678354)
Greg unlike the rest of these yahoos that are easily swayed by your charm & good looks, size of your “tool box”, endless supply of rick Simpson oil and exceptional taste in top notch builders - atleast most of the time, I only like you as a friend...xoxo tell Gwen hi for me )



Did I send you my special "Christmas" missive you little Crayon eater??

SSLance 06-05-2018 08:54 AM

I don't even want to know how you found that story Donny!!! lol...

Car looks great Ron, love the obligatory "stance" picture of the rear tire.

I can just imagine Greg giggling at every picture he looks at of this build... :D

Ron Sutton 06-05-2018 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678350)
Too late --- she's already been gone a week. Seems one of the guys at the construction project down the street had some Snap-On tools a relative left him. So far I've tried the 9/16" box end and it seems to work real well ---- so maybe I got a pretty good deal.

:lmao:

Ron Sutton 06-05-2018 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 678368)
:confused59: Todays edition of quote out of context.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peop...-17-hours.html


NOW, it's off the deep end. :drowninga:

:king:

Ns RS 06-05-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678373)
Did I send you my special "Christmas" missive you little Crayon eater??

So that was you....

65_LS1_T56 06-05-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 678368)
:confused59: Todays edition of quote out of context.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peop...-17-hours.html


NOW, it's off the deep end. :drowninga:

Did anybody else notice it was a 14mm wrench? :lmao:

Build-It-Break-it 06-05-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 65_LS1_T56 (Post 678394)
Did anybody else notice it was a 14mm wrench? :lmao:

I saw that to and was like wow poor guy.

GregWeld 06-05-2018 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 65_LS1_T56 (Post 678394)
Did anybody else notice it was a 14mm wrench? :lmao:



Hi buddy!!


Great catch because I did not pay attention to that..... I just kept asking myself "why".......

jarhead 06-05-2018 04:48 PM

O-M-G
Came here for a race car update...

LMAO!

57hemicuda 06-05-2018 06:52 PM

I am NOT going to make a ricer joker, nor am I going to talk about how 14mm is somewhere between 1/2" and 9/16". The whole thing just makes me hate the metric system even more.

DBasher 06-05-2018 07:40 PM

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14mm, it may not be big but at least it’s skinny 😂

GregWeld 06-07-2018 05:33 PM

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This is how you build a race car....... go back and check the start date.



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Build-It-Break-it 06-07-2018 05:36 PM

No no no. This is how YOU Greg Weld builds a race car:G-Dub::popcorn2::cheers:

Outstanding

DBasher 06-07-2018 05:46 PM

Fawk that’s mean lookin! You’re definitely going to need the brown suit.
The width makes it look chopped, wicked.

Is it getting wrapped or painted? I forget.
:bigun2:

Vegas69 06-07-2018 05:48 PM

Pretty simple deal: Concrete goal, right people, and plenty of funding. :lol:

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

GregWeld 06-07-2018 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 678467)
Fawk that’s mean lookin! You’re definitely going to need the brown suit.
The width makes it look chopped, wicked.

Is it getting wrapped or painted? I forget.
:bigun2:


Wrapped ---- it's a track car, no GoodGuys shows for it!

Ford Triple Yellow and Ford Magnetic stripe

Interior is a light grey powder coat - for cleanliness. I've never liked the flat black in OY.



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GregWeld 06-07-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 678468)
Pretty simple deal: Concrete goal, right people, and plenty of funding. :lol:

:lmao::lmao::lmao:


I just wanna be faster than Myers C5.......and Rob...... and Dave..... and Andy..... and Chet..... and Pete.... and Big Mike

FETorino 06-07-2018 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678472)
I just wanna be faster than Myers C5.......and Rob...... and Dave..... and Andy..... and Chet..... and Pete.... and Big Mike

I’ve read the spec sheet on this build. Me and my 335hp and 3100lbs of AO will just tap out now and save myself the embarrasment. :shakehead:

You should go with the brown suit.

Flash68 06-07-2018 10:56 PM

So you're sayin you're gonna be able to see over the Street Outlaws cowl hood....

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...RxBVkxp-XL.png

SSLance 06-08-2018 07:54 AM

I don't care about Greg being able to see over the hood...I just want the GoPro to be able to see over the hood...

DBasher 06-08-2018 12:48 PM

How’s about the wheels? I just saw something online about some new forged wheels and started wondering, besides the strength, is the design any kind of consideration for the aero package?

Ron Sutton 06-08-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 678467)
Fawk that’s mean lookin! You’re definitely going to need the brown suit.
The width makes it look chopped, wicked.

Is it getting wrapped or painted? I forget.
:bigun2:

Wrapped. Yellow with dark gray metallic stripes ... kind of like ol Yeller.

Ron Sutton 06-08-2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678469)
Wrapped ---- it's a track car, no GoodGuys shows for it!

Ford Triple Yellow and Ford Magnetic stripe

Interior is a light grey powder coat - for cleanliness. I've never liked the flat black in OY.



Attachment 65831


Oops! I see Greg posted a sample & details.

DBasher 06-08-2018 01:41 PM

How about the wheel question, you want to take a crack at that?
:flag2::thumbsup:

Matt@BOS 06-08-2018 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 678472)
I just wanna be faster than Myers C5.......and Rob...... and Dave..... and Andy..... and Chet..... and Pete.... and Big Mike

I doubt you even need Ol Yeller to be faster than them.

Ron Sutton 06-08-2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 678468)
Pretty simple deal: Concrete goal, right people, and plenty of funding. :lol:

:lmao::lmao::lmao:


You are spot on Todd, as usual.

I will say that the value of what someone gets for the dollar ...
A. A new base model Howe TA2/GT2 race car is $130k ... $160k with upgrades.
A2. A new base model RSRT TA2 Track Warrior is $110K ... $145k with upgrades.
B. A new base RSRT GT Track Warrior is $170K ... $200k with all these upgrades Greg's has.
C. A new base Porsche 911 GT3 Cup car is $213K ... $235 with upgrades
D. A new Ave/Riley Trans Am race car is $330k ... without engine, trans or body. Add $135k to finish it.
E. A new Panoz Esperante GTR-1 is $890K
F. Of course we all know a lot of high end multi-purpose Pro-Touring cars built to run AX & Track can cost up to whatever someone wants to spend.

Both the Howe TA2 (We're a dealer) & the RSRT TT (soon to be called TA2) perform the same. Our TT/TA2 is not legal in the Trans Am series. It is meant to provide TA2 level performance in whatever muscle car body you want ... 69 Camaro, 70's Camaro or Firebird, Chevelle, etc, etc. Depending on Aero, these cars will be capable of 1:53-ish on the 3-mile Thunderhill track with crows nest & 1:43-ish at Sonoma.

For reference, Greg's mean 65 Mustang ... Ol Yeller ... with 245's all around & no aero ... runs 2:04's.

Greg's RSRT GT Track Warrior will be capable of 1:51-ish on the 3-mile Thunderhill track with crows nest & 1:41-ish at Sonoma. I have a handful of local drivers that could do those times, due to their experience. As we know experience in these type of fast cars is a big deal. Greg being a rookie will be several seconds off that, until he gets similar experience. Once Greg is comfortable, our plan is to run him & the car in some NASA TTU events.

Legend for reading the track records below ...
TTU is NASA's Time Attack with unlimited rules!
T1 is the same thing (sort of) for SCCA
GT1 is full Trans Am Cars
GT3 is "lighter" Trans Am style series for Porsche, Corvettes, etc
GTA is equal to TA2
GTP is for highly developed sports race cars like Panoz, Viper, Corvette, etc
PC is Porsche Cup for GT3 Cup cars only.

Take a look at how these cars compare in performance, for the cost to buy one new.


Ron Sutton 06-08-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 678512)
How’s about the wheels? I just saw something online about some new forged wheels and started wondering, besides the strength, is the design any kind of consideration for the aero package?


No consideration of aero. Just lightness & strength. This may seem like an"unlimited budget" build, but it's not. No carbon fiber wheels here. If you came to me & said build the fastest car on the planet, we'd need $600-700k.

These wheels are 3-piece Forgeline GZ3R competition wheels.
18x13 front & rear. Graphite Powder Coat Centers.

They only weigh 18#. :trophy-1302:

I'll be posting photos, once we mount & install them on the car early next week.


Ron Sutton 06-08-2018 03:21 PM

Car Year & Model: 70 Ford Mustang Fastback
Competing in: Track Car & Occasional NASA TTU races
Front Clip/Suspension: GT Track-Warrior
Rear Clip/Suspension: GT Track-Warrior
Engine: Track-Warrior 3 LS7 700 HP
Trans: PPG Sequential Shift T56 6-Speed
Brakes: StopTech 14” ST60/ST40
Owner: Greg Weld
Builder: Randy Chastain – One-Off Customs

More progess = more photos ! We're on track with this car for initial testing in 20 days !!!

Steel wheel tubs

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...9&d=1528495393

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...0&d=1528495406

Dash with Autometer Digital Dash system, including data acquisition.

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...1&d=1528495464

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...2&d=1528495473

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...3&d=1528495486

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...4&d=1528495506

Front end, hood & doors mock up for fitment
* Reminder: This 70 Fastback is widened 6". 3" per side. Greenhouse (Roof) is factory width.

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...6&d=1528495571

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...7&d=1528495613

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...8&d=1528495697

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...9&d=1528495715

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...0&d=1528495729

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...1&d=1528495745

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...2&d=1528495761

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...3&d=1528495782

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...9&d=1528495941

Ron Sutton 06-08-2018 03:21 PM

Tilt & Telescoping collapsible safety steering column.

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...5&d=1528495527

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...0&d=1528495986

Here are the StopTech Brakes optimized by Ron Sutton

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...4&d=1528495806

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...5&d=1528495847

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...6&d=1528495862

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...7&d=1528495875

http://www.pro-touring.com/attachmen...8&d=1528495903

jlwdvm 06-09-2018 06:27 AM

For the interior sheet metal work: do you finish welding the joints completely, or use seam sealer between the tack welds?

Flash68 06-09-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 678520)

Greg's RSRT GT Track Warrior will be capable of 1:51-ish on the 3-mile Thunderhill track with crows nest & 1:41-ish at Sonoma. Greg being a rookie will be several seconds off that

No pressure Greg.

GregWeld 06-09-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 678540)
No pressure Greg.



I'm going to have to find faster friends......

Ron Sutton 06-09-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jlwdvm (Post 678532)
For the interior sheet metal work: do you finish welding the joints completely, or use seam sealer between the tack welds?

We think of them as "spot" welds, but yes, we use a seam sealer, specifically 3M Fire Barrier Silicone Sealant 2000+. See it HERE.

https://us.all.biz/img/us/catalog/230798.jpeg

mfain 06-10-2018 02:13 PM

Absolutely awesome build! Can't wait to see it on track. ABS? Traction control?

Pappy

TrackMuscle 06-10-2018 08:58 PM

What is the total weight of the car wet with no fuel? And as Pappy asked above, any ABS?

craig510 06-10-2018 09:42 PM

Please keep an eye on the T/C Rods on the lower control arms. The bend in them makes me nervous. They will be under compression under braking which puts a large bending moment on them and they are pre-yielded from the bending process.

With enough wall thickness and yield strength they could be fine but it is something to watch. If you have trouble with your caster alignment changing they could be bending further.

Ron Sutton 06-11-2018 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mfain (Post 678573)
Absolutely awesome build! Can't wait to see it on track. ABS? Traction control?

Pappy

Hi Pappy. No ABS. No Traction control. The only assist is the "no lift shift" for the sequential gear box. So the Driver has to "drive" it. :)


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