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Vegas69 04-29-2012 10:31 PM

I've done a ton of idling and I'd heard the same thing. I always kept the idle above 1000 rpm as I'd heard it helped. After all, this is a street car. :unibrow:

I think I'll just buy a new set and sell off the old ones at a steep discount and let somebody else rebuild them. I like to error on the safe side of the fence.

Gaetano, I'll take the bait. How about 268/272?

FETorino 04-29-2012 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 411076)
F-me. Anybody else want to hop on before the train leaves the station. :rolleyes:

262/264 :D

intocarss 04-29-2012 10:37 PM

Good call!! Spending $400-800 on a new set of lifters now is better then spending $2000-3500 on a complete tear down and rebuild Not to mention "down time"

Flash68 04-29-2012 10:38 PM

Wow dude glad you found that. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 411087)
262/264 :D

G - what rpm is the hp peak at? Without knowing that I'll guess 270/276.

Vegas69 04-29-2012 10:38 PM

:rofl: A set of Isky EZ Rolls goes for $1000-$1200.

intocarss 04-29-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 411091)
:rofl: A set of Isky EZ Rolls goes for $1000-$1200.

Sorry, I ran Crower and we are a dealer for them so i went off that pricing.

OH and don't lie if your car was a "street car" you'd be running Hyd roller lifters ;) :unibrow:

Track Junky 04-29-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 411090)
Wow dude glad you found that. :thumbsup:



G - what rpm is the hp peak at? Without knowing that I'll guess 270/276.

6400.....272/272

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 411091)
:rofl: A set of Isky EZ Rolls goes for $1000-$1200.

Drop in the bucket :lol:

FETorino 04-29-2012 10:47 PM

Why not Crower? I know several solid roller street cars running them. :thumbsup:

Price is better maybe 900-1000

Track Junky 04-29-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 411084)
I've done a ton of idling and I'd heard the same thing. I always kept the idle above 1000 rpm as I'd heard it helped. After all, this is a street car. :unibrow:

I think I'll just buy a new set and sell off the old ones at a steep discount and let somebody else rebuild them. I like to error on the safe side of the fence.

Gaetano, I'll take the bait. How about 268/272?

Never new that about the idling. Thanks Jerry

Good guess.......272/272

Vegas69 04-29-2012 10:57 PM

I like the new Isky EZ Roll design as it eliminates the needle bearings. I had lashed the valves before RTTC and the roller went that fast. If you don't catch it, needle bearings will destroy an engine. They have three stages based on spring pressure. I'll likely opt for one step above what they spec regardless.

intocarss 04-29-2012 11:03 PM

Another trick I have heard of but never done myself, is groove the lifter or the lifter bore so you get more pressurized oil onto the roller wheel. And yes it's better to have a little more spring pressure with solid rollers

CarlC 04-29-2012 11:07 PM

Valve springs? What are those? It's been so long since I've had to tear into an engine I just can't remember. :P

Track Junky 04-29-2012 11:07 PM

Doesn't Morell make the Isky EZ and all other high endurance lifters?

I'm running the PBM RL 955's but I've heard Morell makes those also.

intocarss 04-29-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 411104)
Doesn't Morell make the Isky EZ and all other high endurance lifters?

I'm running the PBM RL 955's but I've heard Morell makes those also.

You'd be surprized on how just one or two Co's make all the lifters and springs for the other Co's ;)

Vegas69 04-29-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlC (Post 411103)
Valve springs? What are those? It's been so long since I've had to tear into an engine I just can't remember. :P

You better knock on some wood. :unibrow:

Track Junky 04-29-2012 11:24 PM

Just checked yellowbullet and there are guys that have run the PBM's for 3 seasons with no issues. $300 bones

Vegas69 04-29-2012 11:30 PM

Big Blocks and Small Blocks are a different ball game.

Flash68 04-29-2012 11:47 PM

You and Pettis talk about oversized lifters?

Vegas69 04-30-2012 12:15 AM

I honestly don't remember but I know it's something he does on a regular basis. By big block solid roller standards, it's really a baby so I don't think it was a real consideration. Solid roller lifters are a wear item in all engines, especially big block chevys. I knew this since day one and that's why I've kept a fairly close eye on them. The valve spring pressure is likely what led to the failure. That or it's one hell of a conincidence. I've read a bunch of threads on solid roller failures and I don't recall valve spring pressure coming up but I feel it's likely the real issue. One thing to remember is a solid roller has lash while a hydraulic roller rides on the lobe at all times.

Swapping springs and replacing/rebuilding lifters are going to be part of the maintenence and I knew it, just didn't know the interval. It almost bit me.

Track Junky 04-30-2012 12:34 AM

I dont like the idea of gauging by miles driven. One of these days I'd like to install an hour gauge. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea for you either since you do alot of street driving. Just the fact that roller lifters dont like idling would be a pretty good deciding factor.
The guys at NYES told me one season for springs and lifters, 2 for rings and bearings and I told them exactly what I would be doing with the car. Yeah, I had a shaky start with those guys but I do believe they know what there doing and talking about now.

Sieg 04-30-2012 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 411123)
I dont like the idea of gauging by miles driven. One of these days I'd like to install an hour gauge.

I run these on my bikes, they should work on a car?
http://trailtech.net/tto_hourmeter.html

Track Junky 04-30-2012 11:39 AM

Thanks Sieg. Nice and compact....could easily tuck away in engine compartment.

intocarss 05-13-2012 10:02 PM

Any up dates? What did you decide to do?

Vegas69 05-13-2012 10:24 PM

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The lifter bodies were in such nice condition and Jason wasn't concerned with me having them rebuilt. I had them rebuilt with the EZX option. They claim they will handle up to 1100 open pressure and will outlast the redzones by 50% life. Since I'm only running 640 lbs of open pressure, they should last a long time and they are needle less. They are on the way back to me. Jason recommended checking every valve spring at installed height and he did and they are here, I just need to buy a valve spring tool and get my ass to work. :unibrow:

Looks like I'll miss both SCCA autocrosses this month so I'm not in a big hurry. I'll have her all buttoned up in a few weeks.

intocarss 05-13-2012 10:39 PM

Cool deal, Did you get new springs or are you going to use VSI shims and bring back the correct pressure with the used springs? :thumbsup:

Vegas69 05-13-2012 10:48 PM

Oh hell no, brand new springs.

intocarss 05-13-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 414143)
Oh hell no, brand new springs.

:thumbsup:

Vegas69 05-23-2012 06:46 PM

Who says 1st gear peanut autocrosses can't be fun.
http://www.superchevy.com/multimedia...0vOssNS16pZQmr

WicKeD_SS 05-23-2012 07:27 PM

Sweet Run! congrats :thumbsup:

skatinjay27 05-23-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 416023)
Who says 1st gear peanut autocrosses can't be fun.
http://www.superchevy.com/multimedia...0vOssNS16pZQmr

what the hell! that was soo last year!:lol:

Flash68 05-23-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 416023)
Who says 1st gear peanut autocrosses can't be fun.
http://www.superchevy.com/multimedia...0vOssNS16pZQmr

Umm...you used to say it everytime someone posted a goodguys autoX video. :D

Track Junky 05-23-2012 08:49 PM

I couldn't find a snoaring smiley so..............:P :lol:

Sieg 05-23-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 416055)
I couldn't find a snoaring smiley so..............:P :lol:

http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums...lies/sleep.gif

http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums...ifferent21.gif

Always willing to lend a helping hand. :unibrow:

DFRESH 05-23-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 416023)
Who says 1st gear peanut autocrosses can't be fun.
http://www.superchevy.com/multimedia...0vOssNS16pZQmr

The fat lady has sung her last song. Never thought I would ever hear you make that statement.

First Dave Gordon = hater of Peanut Auto X. Now Dave Gordon = I :thumbsup: them.

Todd Akes and Peanut Auto X's now = :woot:

You have to sell the car now--there's nothing left.

Bucketlist2012 05-23-2012 09:16 PM

I don't care if it is a peanut or a grapefruit, or a damn watermelon,

I just cannot wait to beat my car at an autocross soon..

I won't make the Pleasanton one in June because I am going to Yosemite(bucket List), but August I will be there, and hopefully something bigger sometime this year.

I have too many new parts and tires I have to wear out..

Vegas69 05-23-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skatinjay27 (Post 416038)
what the hell! that was soo last year!:lol:

If my crew chief would get off his lazy ass and put my engine back together I wouldn't have to relive old victories. :unibrow:

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 416048)
Umm...you used to say it everytime someone posted a goodguys autoX video. :D

I'm a prick, you should know that by now.

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 416055)
I couldn't find a snoaring smiley so..............:P :lol:

At least I have some video. For all I know, you are just fabricating stories. I find it hard to believe you ran exactly the time you predicted. :lol:

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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 416060)
The fat lady has sung her last song. Never thought I would ever hear you make that statement.

First Dave Gordon = hater of Peanut Auto X. Now Dave Gordon = I :thumbsup: them.

Todd Akes and Peanut Auto X's now = :woot:

You have to sell the car now--there's nothing left.

The bitch is singing loud and clear.

Bucketlist2012 05-23-2012 09:45 PM

I don't do fat chicks, so there will be no singing here..

And since I won't be winning IF I ever get my sorry arse to one of these events, there will be no fat chicks singing for me anyways...

Vegas69 05-23-2012 10:01 PM

This one is from the inaugaral RTTC in 2010. It's the longest speed stop course I've ran. Later in the day I was able to run the fastest time of anybody at the event.(Including the DSE Cars, Finch, etc) Todd was gratious enough to run to town for some aligator clips and wire so the guys without cigarette ligthers could be timed. I say 110 in the video but it ended up being like 107 or 108. It put me well into the 13's in 0-100-0 which is where you find a majority of the super cars.

It's a pretty interesting video as you see Frank, Todd, and Cris before we all knew him so well.


Flash68 05-23-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 416060)
The fat lady has sung her last song. Never thought I would ever hear you make that statement.

First Dave Gordon = hater of Peanut Auto X. Now Dave Gordon = I :thumbsup: them.

Todd Akes and Peanut Auto X's now = :woot:

You have to sell the car now--there's nothing left.

You caught me. And I'm sorry but my starter tinker toy kit had to have more than 180 horsepower so I had options. You? Not so much.

Now if we can just get Gaetano to run the peanut in his car, the world will surely end.

COYBILT 05-23-2012 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 416072)
I don't do fat chicks, so there will be no singing here..

And since I won't be winning IF I ever get my sorry arse to one of these events, there will be no fat chicks singing for me anyways...

LMAO, I just caught the last of this. Pretty damn funny if you ask me.


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