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novanutcase 11-26-2007 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DDY RCKT
Hmm... The cutting and welding doesn't bother me. Hot Rods to Hell has a full truck arm setup available for the 2nd Gen, I think they come in at $1900 for everything.

You guys really like the truck arm for track duty, then? Even over a 4-link?

I like it although I think some are concerned with the unsprung weight it provides along with trying to run exhaust.

John

MarkM66 11-26-2007 09:35 AM

Using an iron block LSX will save you little in weight. If you've got a good BBC at a good price, use it.

LS1:

457.6 lbs, LS1 auto; 497.2 lbs, LS1/LS6 manual

BBC & SBC

From Chevy2only; http://www.chevy2only.com/index.php...N_position=54:8

Weights are from carb to oil pan with HEI dist, harmonic balancer, and iron water pump.

SMALL BLOCK
All iron small block 520 lbs.
Alum heads w/iron small block 480 lbs.
All alum motor 389 lbs.

BIG BLOCK
All iron BB 754 lbs.
Alum heads with iron block 660 lbs.
All alum BB 501 lbs.

backtobas 11-26-2007 09:50 AM

My brother recently picked up LS out of 98 Camaro, with a cam, upgraded rod bolts, headgaskets, etc, plus 4l60 trans, for 2600.00 Engine trans, wiring computer, etc everything for 2600.00

Point being, the power, weight of LS engine, are hard to beat, and out there if you shop it around.

silver63c10 11-26-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDY RCKT
You guys really like the truck arm for track duty, then? Even over a 4-link?

We picked it mostly because of the simplicity of the setup. There is adjustability, having two positions in the front and being able to affect it with blocks, but to be able to really fine tune the car, a 3-link seems to be the way to go. We're just sticking to the KISS principle, coming into this with basically zero chassis tuning experience.

silver63c10 11-26-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuce_454
it does however require a fair bit of cutting and welding....

A fair bit, yes :lol:

http://www.acmeautopartsonline.com/g...amaroweb42.jpg

http://www.acmeautopartsonline.com/g...amaroweb45.jpg

On the weight issue, we never weighed them side by side, but I would be willing to bet that the arms, shocks, and crossmember don't weigh much more than the factory leafs did. We got all our parts from Stock Car Products. Their arms are $225 each, and it says the bushing style ones weigh 19 pounds each.

On the exhaust, pretty much the only possibility is a side dump. There's room around the rear end for tailpipes, but there's just no clearance around the arms to get pipe back there. We will be running oval tubing with the low profile SpinTechs, mounted solid to the frame rails and body, with a slash cut exiting in front of the tire NASCAR style.

DDY RCKT 11-26-2007 05:43 PM

I'll have to see if the Hot Rods to Hell kit needs that much cutting. That's getting too close to purpose built race car trim for the conditions, methinks.

va72mlibu 11-27-2007 08:10 AM

Do you have a line on the LQ4?

DDY RCKT 11-27-2007 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by va72mlibu
Do you have a line on the LQ4?

There are a few out there, but they're all pretty far away. I'm not pressed to get one now, so I'm just casually looking right now.

va72mlibu 11-27-2007 10:23 AM

I assume though that if a "deal of a lifetime" LS1 stumbled your way, then you would get it? In other words, is the LQ4 a compromise or is there some particular reason you want to get that, other than cost?

DDY RCKT 11-27-2007 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by va72mlibu
I assume though that if a "deal of a lifetime" LS1 stumbled your way, then you would get it? In other words, is the LQ4 a compromise or is there some particular reason you want to get that, other than cost?

I wouldn't pass up a deal of a lifetime LS1 for sure! I like the LQ4 for the 4" bore, but I can get power from an LS1 as well. The LQ4 with the L92 heads and the L76 intake with a mild cam is around 550 HP, but it's also 150-200 lbs heavier than the all aluminum LS.

Why, do you have one? :unibrow:


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