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Stielow 11-08-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuart Adams (Post 377458)
I think Kyle was 3 seconds faster than last year also. That is alot of time.

Maybe Mark can elaborate on how you make up 3 seconds, that has to be close to driving to the limits.

I changed the following:

• Fixed the ABS to have no faults with my new axle
• Changed the blower and added appox 50 HP
• Filled the fuel tank so I would not fuel starve out of Pahrump turn 2
• Fixed the clutch to allow faster shifts
• Fixed the transmission to allow better 2 - 3 shifts (Faster)
• Retuned the shocks
• Swapped brakes to Stop-Tech to re-balance the brakes
• Ran a lot of practice laps

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...PahrumpLap.jpg

For a 3600 lbs Hot Rod Power Tour car that idles at 700 RPM it goes OK. :thumbsup:

With some more laps on that track in my car I'm sure I could go 1:43 but getting down to a 1:42 in Red Devil I don't think is possible. It is just physics. Also I’m sure Danny with a little practice could go down to a sub 1:40 lap. This was his first time on Spring Mountain.

There were a lot of great cars and drivers at this years’ event! Danny did a great job and had a great car he deserved to win. It was so close this year that one change in position would have giving me or Danny the clear win. Danny clearly beat me in the AutoX and the road course. I beat him in Style and Speed Stop.

Another way to make people "happy" is for someone in the "Pro-Touring" industy to sponsor a overall winner with a "Pro-Touring" car. So follow the One Lap of America format a little and break out the final awards to single out groups of cars.

Winner for Pro-Touring (Pre-1991)
Winner Truck / SUV
Winner 5th Gen Camaro
Winner Uber Perfrmance (Z06s, GTRs, GT2, etc.....)
Winner Tunner
Etc.....

Then "we" in the Pro-Touring community could have our champion. Instead of DSE sponsoring a road rally that everyone dislikes (or maybe just me) have them sponsor the Pro-Touring award. Have Lingenfelter sponsor the 5th Gen award…. Just an idea.

I love this event and don't want a lot of rules layered on just to make a small group happy. I think FM3 and Optima has done a great job putting on an event that is gaining in status and popularity. Next year will be even wilder, I can’t wait!

Stielow

DOOM 11-08-2011 06:09 AM

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See thats all you have to do.....:D

96z28ss 11-08-2011 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stielow (Post 377469)
I changed the following:

• Fixed the ABS to have no faults with my new axle
• Changed the blower and added appox 50 HP
• Filled the fuel tank so I would not fuel starve out of Pahrump turn 2
• Fixed the clutch to allow faster shifts
• Fixed the transmission to allow better 2 - 3 shifts (Faster)
• Retuned the shocks
• Swapped brakes to Stop-Tech to re-balance the brakes
• Ran a lot of practice laps



For a 3600 lbs Hot Rod Power Tour car that idles at 700 RPM it goes OK. :thumbsup:

With some more laps on that track in my car I'm sure I could go 1:43 but getting down to a 1:42 in Red Devil I don't think is possible. It is just physics. Also I’m sure Danny with a little practice could go down to a sub 1:40 lap. This was his first time on Spring Mountain.

There were a lot of great cars and drivers at this years’ event! Danny did a great job and had a great car he deserved to win. It was so close this year that one change in position would have giving me or Danny the clear win. Danny clearly beat me in the AutoX and the road course. I beat him in Style and Speed Stop.

Another way to make people "happy" is for someone in the "Pro-Touring" industy to sponsor a overall winner with a "Pro-Touring" car. So follow the One Lap of America format a little and break out the final awards to single out groups of cars.

Winner for Pro-Touring (Pre-1991)
Winner Truck / SUV
Winner 5th Gen Camaro
Winner Uber Perfrmance (Z06s, GTRs, GT2, etc.....)
Winner Tunner
Etc.....

Then "we" in the Pro-Touring community could have our champion. Instead of DSE sponsoring a road rally that everyone dislikes (or maybe just me) have them sponsor the Pro-Touring award. Have Lingenfelter sponsor the 5th Gen award…. Just an idea.

I love this event and don't want a lot of rules layered on just to make a small group happy. I think FM3 and Optima has done a great job putting on an event that is gaining in status and popularity. Next year will be even wilder, I can’t wait!

Stielow

I'd actually like to see you bring a 5th Gen ZL1 next year. Would the times be marginally better, or a lot better?

Stielow 11-08-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 377505)
I'd actually like to see you bring a 5th Gen ZL1 next year. Would the times be marginally better, or a lot better?

Lets see a ZL-1 is 400 lbs heavier, 200 less HP and is bigger. I'm gunna say it would be 3 seconds a lap slower.

Stielow

Bow Tie 67 11-08-2011 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 377505)
I'd actually like to see you bring a 5th Gen ZL1 next year. Would the times be marginally better, or a lot better?

I want to see him in a 67 Camaro :thumbsup:

Gimpala63n70 11-08-2011 11:21 AM

I was there to see this, and it was amazing. Both drivers were just awesome and I loved the fact that the other team let the white z06 borrow the master cylinder!

GrabberGT 11-08-2011 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bow Tie 67 (Post 377514)
I want to see him in a 67 Camaro :thumbsup:

I'd like to see him n anything BUT a Camaro. :D

On the subject of fairness, I'd like to see "Street Car" defined. Maybe let the wives come up with a list of items that define a car as street worthy and use that list as part of the style portion of the contest. Give the vehicles a 1 sec penalty for every item they do not have from the list and the rest would be fit and finish. Im sure all of the cars but a the CTS-V, Mercedes, and a couple others would have given up some valuable time there.

On another note, who do we have to talk to in order to get more than 45 minutes worth of TV coverage out of this? I'd love to see a feature on every car there in addition to a more detailed, play by play of the competition.

preston 11-08-2011 12:57 PM

Anybody have any info on the C6 Danny was driving ? I know the devil is in the details but I'm interested in the general specs on that car.

Ah the old street vs race debate - that's one I have with myself every day as one disappointing thing about my personal toy is the high level of NVH. Tolerable, but certainly not anywhere near modern OEM (its a built from scratch tube frame deal, so I probably shouldn't be so finicky).

But I still definitely like the idea of lights, wipers, HV, windows (preferably glass), and some semblance of carpet and upholstery. Of course its interesting to let the bare bones style cars (ie roadsters) show up too, but not fair in terms of competition.

Of course it would be great to have a pro drive the top cars back to back and contrast and compare, but that's not gonna happen except on an ad-hoc voluntary basis.

From a marketing perspective, what I would really like to see the most is a breakdown on all of the entries with build sheets and links to build threads or web pages if they exist. A great opportunity for everyone to tout their wares, and satisfy us internet junkies. Right now all I have is some photos of cool cars and a scoring sheet with no idea what was involved with most of these rigs.

I"m the guy at all the car shows rolling around on the ground trying to look under the cars, as sheet metal bores me after about 2 seconds.

73CPCAMARO 11-08-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preston (Post 377542)
Anybody have any info on the C6 Danny was driving ? I know the devil is in the details but I'm interested in the general specs on that car.

Ah the old street vs race debate - that's one I have with myself every day as one disappointing thing about my personal toy is the high level of NVH. Tolerable, but certainly not anywhere near modern OEM (its a built from scratch tube frame deal, so I probably shouldn't be so finicky).

But I still definitely like the idea of lights, wipers, HV, windows (preferably glass), and some semblance of carpet and upholstery. Of course its interesting to let the bare bones style cars (ie roadsters) show up too, but not fair in terms of competition.

Of course it would be great to have a pro drive the top cars back to back and contrast and compare, but that's not gonna happen except on an ad-hoc voluntary basis.

From a marketing perspective, what I would really like to see the most is a breakdown on all of the entries with build sheets and links to build threads or web pages if they exist. A great opportunity for everyone to tout their wares, and satisfy us internet junkies. Right now all I have is some photos of cool cars and a scoring sheet with no idea what was involved with most of these rigs.

I"m the guy at all the car shows rolling around on the ground trying to look under the cars, as sheet metal bores me after about 2 seconds.

As far as a "pro" driving the top cars, the top cars already have top notch drivers driving them.

Why was no one crying about the incredible 1962 Corvette that was in last years OUSCI? Goodguys Street Machine of the year and SEMA GM design award winner. It did not even have a roof. I don't think that car has door glass either. Would that car not be allowed? Every car in this years competition had all the lights, wipers, glass needed to be street legal. This is not a "pro-touring" event. Some like more comfort features than others. All of these cars were street legal. Leave it at that.

96z28ss 11-08-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 377554)
As far as a "pro" driving the top cars, the top cars already have top notch drivers driving them.

Why was no one crying about the incredible 1962 Corvette that was in last years OUSCI? Goodguys Street Machine of the year and SEMA GM design award winner. It did not even have a roof. I don't think that car has door glass either. Would that car not be allowed? Every car in this years competition had all the lights, wipers, glass needed to be street legal. This is not a "pro-touring" event. Some like more comfort features than others. All of these cars were street legal. Leave it at that.

No it shouldn't be allowed! Is that what you would like to hear?
When you have a roadster there needs to be a higher level of saftey. It did not have a roll bar of any type that I saw.
The speed stop challenge and autocross don't have a very high risk, but sometimes accidents happen (Like DSE 69 Camaro RTTH event). The road course version of the event has very high speeds and if there was an issue with a car with no safety equipment and someone got hurt, it could end the event from ever happening again. NHRA IHRA SCCA etc.. No roof more rules!!

Not sure what state you live in, but there were cars at the event without wipers. You need that to pass DEQ to be street legal also need working turn signals, and horn etc... I'm not saying your car shouldn't have been there. I think that going forward in events to come there needs to be some rules added or split into classes.


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