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more than you think....and still enjoy it. :relax:

I'd work for free to learn from you.

I don't care if they bought it or built it, I'm just a jealous hater cuz it's not mine. :guns: Especially if they got it through "Overhaulin". :)

Got me why this old topic came up in the recent Lateral-g newsletter . . . but it seems to be frowning as much on the "built" side as much as it's claiming the builders are doing to the buyers. I haven't read this whole thread, but at least initially . . . "pot, meet kettle".

As a DIY'er about lots of things (not just the automotive stuff), I think the folks who aren't involved at all in the physical parts of the build are missing out. For example - when you're all done with your engine assembly (major machining is past my depth) and you're standing on that "thrill of victory/agony of defeat" moment as you turn the key to crank that engine for the first time, it's different when it's your own work that's on the line. Even more so when it's not your day job to do that sort of thing.

There's satisfaction to be had from figuring out how to make something fit, overcoming other little snags, or doing something unusual or unique that in the end, works. That's a kind of satisfaction that a 'buyer' isn't going to have (and may not even truly understand).


Norm

well said. We love to tinker.

i agree but i think its more a problem when others rub the fact that some one bought and didn't build thing that's going on.

I guess I interpret the phrase a bit differently than some of the others who have responded here, but I don't think there is any malice in the phrase (despite the fact that some use it to belittle others who did pay for their car to be built by a shop).
It seems the popular opinion here is that it's a phrase primarily used to shame those who buy their cars already built or have a shop do the work for them.

And I don't really think that's the case, I think it is instead just a sign of people having pride in their own work (even if that only involves assembling parts from a catalog).
I would agree that it's a silly phrase when it's being used by a guy who thinks his car is "built" when all he did was swap out an air intake and put on some new wheels.

But there are many people here who extensively plan out their own build, learn to weld, do their own bodywork and paint, and more. I'm sure some will disagree, but to me that is a great personal accomplishment that's not quite achieved when someone else is doing it for you.

The newsletter article however asks an interesting question. Is built running the hobby. The key part to that question is the use of the term hobby.

I haven't seen anyone define the term.

If your hobby is driving the wheels off a car then your hobby does not really factor how the car got created (built or bought).
If your hobby is fabrication, construction, engineering etc then you are likely a builder. I've seen guys on here who build then sell and put less than 100 miles on a car they've built. Clearly for them building is the hobby.

The article and this thread are intentionally provocative and completely subjective.

Everyone's hobby (by their own definition) is different and it's place in their personal priorities is different.

We may as well argue over which are the hottest women, redheads, blondes or brunettes.

Blondes!...er Red...er Brunettes...oh fu#@!!!

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I read the article and figured most normal people do both out of necessity.

I can't believe this thread is still going on!!:catfight: :BlahBlah: