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72Z/28 03-24-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 543137)
Thanks guys.

This weekend felt good. Its always good when the car becomes driveable again!



Are you running the TCI setup with wider than 245 front tires? I believe they have since updated their design to eliminate the problem I had. I'm currently running my old 245 front tires and the setup up works perfectly with 5* of caster. Its the mixing of 5*+ and a 275 front tire that I started having problems. A solution for which has been back burnered until now.

Glad you got everthing taken care of. I have the Speedtech complete front clip with 245/40/18s. The tire gets very close to the back fender during steering but does not. However, not sure if it is going to rub while driving. I am going to check my alignment specs. I have read in one of the forums that you will run into rubbing issue if the caster is more than 5*

Chad-1stGen 03-24-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 72Z/28 (Post 543184)
Glad you got everthing taken care of. I have the Speedtech complete front clip with 245/40/18s. The tire gets very close to the back fender during steering but does not. However, not sure if it is going to rub while driving. I am going to check my alignment specs. I have read in one of the forums that you will run into rubbing issue if the caster is more than 5*

Ah ok, I don't know anything about the Speedtech setup. Perhaps you won't have any issue during driving. For me the rubbing only occurred at close to full lock, so those conditions are usually at low speeds so not like there is a ton of extra stress driving except maybe a super tight autocross course.

My fix will involve modification to the lower control arm. I've heard of mods done to clock the inner fender to create some more room.

Track Junky 03-24-2014 05:56 PM

Great news Chad. Were having a little get together at T-Hill May 3rd and 4th. Might be a good idea for you to stop by even if you don't bring the car.

72Z/28 03-24-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 543189)
Ah ok, I don't know anything about the Speedtech setup. Perhaps you won't have any issue during driving. For me the rubbing only occurred at close to full lock, so those conditions are usually at low speeds so not like there is a ton of extra stress driving except maybe a super tight autocross course.

My fix will involve modification to the lower control arm. I've heard of mods done to clock the inner fender to create some more room.


The good thing about Speedtech LCA is that it has adjustable steering stop which prevents tire to frame contact.

Gambit 04-10-2014 05:12 PM

wow dude, just read this over the last few days while I've been sick in bed. Hope you're on the track to getting it all sorted!!

Never been a big fan of red cars but the pic of post 208 could easily sway me.
Can't wait to see an update where you're back out on the track!

Cheers

Chad-1stGen 04-28-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambit (Post 546222)
wow dude, just read this over the last few days while I've been sick in bed. Hope you're on the track to getting it all sorted!!

Never been a big fan of red cars but the pic of post 208 could easily sway me.
Can't wait to see an update where you're back out on the track!

Cheers

Thanks Gambit!! LoL about the red car comment. I've thought that if I ever need to assign my car a name for some reason I'd call it "Just Another Red Camaro" ha ha.

I too can't wait for an update back on the track!

The car is getting closer. The car is currently undergoing some mods to bring it up to current spec for the TCI front subframe which should make fitting my 275 front tires a done deal.

Also may be adding some new suspension goodies. Will update once complete. And man I really want to hit the track!

LM7_67 04-29-2014 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 548043)
Also may be adding some new suspension goodies. Will update once complete. And man I really want to hit the track!

Going to be ready in time for AutoClub this Saturday with SpeedVentures? :D

Chad-1stGen 04-29-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LM7_67 (Post 548076)
Going to be ready in time for AutoClub this Saturday with SpeedVentures? :D

Ha ha I wish!! Sadly, it will not. Are you going? Are you just doing Saturday or are they running Sunday too?

Saturday I'm going to the Chino air show but if you are running Sunday I might be able to stop by and watch.

LM7_67 04-29-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 548119)
Ha ha I wish!! Sadly, it will not. Are you going? Are you just doing Saturday or are they running Sunday too?

Saturday I'm going to the Chino air show but if you are running Sunday I might be able to stop by and watch.

They'll be running both days, but I'll just be there on Saturday.

Chad-1stGen 07-15-2014 12:36 PM

The car is back and ready for some fun!


I got the car back recently from TCI. While at their shop they made some changes to the Camaro Subframe and Torque arm setup to bring up to their current specs. I'm now able to stuff my R888 275 front tire with 6* of caster and -1* of camber with full turning radius!

With the updates to the suspension done it was time to focus on tuning the suspension for track day fun! The first step was upgrading to the Ridetech triple adjustable coil over shocks on all four corners. The car was then corner weighted and final ride height set, which you can see in this pic.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/image...3/19063232.jpg

The front ended up in about the same place and the rear was raised slightly. The Ridetech shocks plus ride height adjustments completely transformed the car. With my old coil overs even at soft setting the car was still very stiff feeling for regular street driving and rough pavement transitions or bumps in the pavement were very unpleasant. Now even with the shocks tuned for baseline track setting the car is awesome on the street.

I left the spec sheet at home but I will post up my corner weights when I get a chance.

I still have some small work left to do on the car such as installing an oil cooler (first one I ordered and had waiting for me all this time was a hair too big) resealing the firewall where the new wiring harness and A/C lines pass through, etc.

I'm planning on doing some maiden testing out at Adams Motorsports Park. Next week for sure and I am trying to leave work early today to get out there too. So if anyone local wants to join me....

Musclerodz 07-15-2014 01:15 PM

Can never go wrong with a red Camaro, looks awesome.

Ron in SoCal 07-15-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 560602)
The car is back and ready for some fun!

I'm planning on doing some maiden testing out at Adams Motorsports Park. Next week for sure and I am trying to leave work early today to get out there too. So if anyone local wants to join me....

Way to go Chad!! I've been waiting a year for this post :thumbsup:

Can't make Adams till Aug, but I'll see you out there soon!

:cheers:

glassman 07-15-2014 07:14 PM

Yeah, way to go!! Been following your build for quite a while and was wondering what happened?

Now glide her slideways!!!!

BTW, what happened to the engine and/or what was the fix?

Track Junky 07-15-2014 09:53 PM

Congrats Chad :thumbsup:

Richio1 07-15-2014 10:28 PM

Yeah great to hear Chad. We know its been a long bumpy road for ya. Glad to see it all coming together and ready to go. Looking forward to more updates.

She looks awesome!

Flash68 07-16-2014 12:04 AM

Chad you get your butt back out to Willow so she can stretch her legs again. Pronto. :stirthepot:

Hope to see ya again soon. :cheers:

WSSix 07-16-2014 05:55 AM

car looks great, Chad! Congrats on getting it back on the road.

Chad-1stGen 07-16-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 560607)
Can never go wrong with a red Camaro, looks awesome.

Ha! Damn red Camaros. I've thought more than once that if I "name" my car I will call it JARC which will stand for Just Another Red Camaro :)

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 560665)
Way to go Chad!! I've been waiting a year for this post :thumbsup:

Can't make Adams till Aug, but I'll see you out there soon!

:cheers:

Thanks Ron. I've been waiting a long time too, a very long time!! First half of August is packed for me but if you go in the 2nd half I hope I can join you!

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 560674)
Yeah, way to go!! Been following your build for quite a while and was wondering what happened?

Now glide her slideways!!!!

BTW, what happened to the engine and/or what was the fix?

Does a spin count as slideways because that did happen last night.

Engine... well lets just say Mast Motorsports and I are no longer on speaking terms. No my choice but after promising to resolve the issue they just randomly dropped off the map and don't return my phone calls. The last exchange I had with them was that while my oil pressure is lower than they typically expect in a Mast Motorsports motor it is still sufficient and to just run an oil cooler... I'm leaning towards the run it until it breaks mindset.

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 560695)
Congrats Chad :thumbsup:

Thanks Gaetano!

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Originally Posted by Richio1 (Post 560697)
Yeah great to hear Chad. We know its been a long bumpy road for ya. Glad to see it all coming together and ready to go. Looking forward to more updates.

She looks awesome!

Bumpy road for sure. I hit a few more "bumps" last night too. I will post about my maiden voyage in a separate post.

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 560705)
Chad you get your butt back out to Willow so she can stretch her legs again. Pronto. :stirthepot:

Hope to see ya again soon. :cheers:

Yeah I can't wait to hit a full road course track! Yeah Dave I can't believe I've been out of the scene for basically 3 years. Last night reminded me how much fun this stuff is!

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 560719)
car looks great, Chad! Congrats on getting it back on the road.

Thanks!

Chad-1stGen 07-16-2014 09:58 AM

Adams Motorsports Park 7/15/14
 
I did in fact make it out to Adams Motorsports Park last night for my maiden flogging of the V3.0 Camaro. I haven't been that nervous in years. It was awesome ha ha.

I was so focused on paying attention to what was going on and trying to get my car ready and monitoring engine vitals that I didn't take any pictures of some of the other bad ass rides out there. The Black Widow truck was there, The Tapout Nova, Don's hotrod and at least 3 other muscle cars/trucks.

I haven't run Adam's since 2010 and while the track hasn't changed they have changed the placement of the artifical chicane on the long straight. In 2010 it was placed near the middle of the straight which kept speeds lower, now it is placed 3/4 of the way down the straight so you can get a longer run at it.

My best time in 2010 under that set up was a 48.25 based on some forum posts I made back then. Last night I ran a best of 44.78. The car is completely different in every way. The handling is far far better balanced, much more HP, and better brakes. I was pleased with a 44.78 given this is the first seat time I've gotten in 3 years and first time on this track in 4 years.

I've got to run to a meeting so I will throw up the vid of my two fastest laps. Official time sheets listed them both at 44.78 though my timing equipment showed slightly different as you will see.

http://youtu.be/gicVzHKFLos



Will come back and finish some info about that night later.

slow4dr 07-16-2014 12:32 PM

It was great seeing the Camaro out there last night Chad! I see the dialogue is already opened up with Sal so hopefully we can go back out next Tuesday.

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...psde45fe4f.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9c78d863.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4e4b420d.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...psea816134.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps25d8e5db.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8d6e7911.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps346293d9.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps89995531.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps565b3a35.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3a511974.jpg

-J

Chad-1stGen 07-16-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by slow4dr (Post 560806)
It was great seeing the Camaro out there last night Chad!
-J

Thanks again for the help Jason. Also, thanks for the sweet pics! Very cool!

I don't think next Tuesday will happen given scheduling but I will be back as soon as I can.

Flash68 07-16-2014 04:59 PM

Chad from what I've seen your 44.xx is a very good time for first time out there in the new setup. Atta boy.

Car looks and sounds great. Just beat on her til there's no oil pressure I say. :sieg:

Vegas69 07-16-2014 06:33 PM

Your car is working great and it looks like you are doing a damn good job behind the wheel.

DFRESH 07-16-2014 06:37 PM

I know we spoke today--but this is a great moment and I had to say it again.

Way to persevere and stay in it to win it. Very happy for you bro!

I will plan to Adam's with you in the next couple of months for sure.

D

Chad-1stGen 07-16-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 560853)
Chad from what I've seen your 44.xx is a very good time for first time out there in the new setup. Atta boy.

Car looks and sounds great. Just beat on her til there's no oil pressure I say. :sieg:

haha is that the advice your 377 received? :D Yeah my car is certainly sounding a wee bit better than the old zz4 motor.

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 560874)
Your car is working great and it looks like you are doing a damn good job behind the wheel.

Thanks Todd. It felt good to beat my old time by so much and I was seeing consistent improvement in each timed session (did 5 sessions before part failure) so I think there is a lot more left in the car on this particular track. I hope so anyways.

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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 560875)
I know we spoke today--but this is a great moment and I had to say it again.

Way to persevere and stay in it to win it. Very happy for you bro!

I will plan to Adam's with you in the next couple of months for sure.

D

Thanks Doug. I look forward to do some events together again and hanging out.

Flash68 07-16-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 560875)
I know we spoke today

Well look at you.... out having real world conversations and stuff instead of just typing crap onto the internet. :computer:

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 560897)
haha is that the advice your 377 received? :D Yeah my car is certainly sounding a wee bit better than the old zz4 motor.


It sounds great on the puter.. :)

And the 377 and I are no longer on speaking terms. And that was my fault.

We gotta get back to Willow and destroy our previous times.

Chad-1stGen 07-16-2014 10:54 PM

Continuing my recap of last night at Adams...

The track at Adams is so tight that my data overlay is hard to read but here is another illustration of one of my 44 second laps. Each yellow bar represents G's greater than 0.75 and less than 1.0. Each red bar represents G's greater than 1.0.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/image...7/19063378.jpg

Unfortunately my night was cut short. A bolt came lose on one of the pinion down bars which caused the other hiem joint to snap. I was able to make it home by reconnecting the first pinion down bar. I had virtually no tools or equipment at the track so it was through the generosity of fellow car guys that I got the car drivable and drove it home. Special thanks to Don with the 38 Ford hotrod and Jason from TCI who helped me get it back together. Don even offered to trailer me home which wasn't a short distance if I couldn't get the car drivable again. Way very cool.

GregWeld 07-17-2014 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 560905)
Continuing my recap of last night at Adams...

Unfortunately my night was cut short. A bolt came lose on one of the pinion down bars which caused the other hiem joint to snap. I was able to make it home by reconnecting the first pinion down bar. I had virtually no tools or equipment at the track so it was through the generosity of fellow car guys that I got the car drivable and drove it home. Special thanks to Don with the 32 Ford hotrod and Jason from TCI who helped me get it back together. Don even offered to trailer me home which wasn't a short distance if I couldn't get the car drivable again. Way very cool.



What a fantastic thing to do!!



Car and driver look awesome. Sorry to hear about the MAST motor. I won't be ordering anything from them for my projects after learning of your treatment. I was offered their motors in another project I'm planning and now - that will just be a Hell NO!

slow4dr 07-17-2014 09:34 AM

That was a very generous offer from Don. Especially since he lives 30 miles in the opposite direction. He's a pretty cool old goat.

Jr 07-28-2014 06:09 PM

Chad,
What radiator and headers are you running?

Chad-1stGen 08-20-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jr (Post 563211)
Chad,
What radiator and headers are you running?

Hi Jr.

I'm running the AFCO LS1 radiator with a Mark VIII fan.

Headers are Headman Heder PN 45106. The fit on these are pretty much perfect with the TCI subframe. The big downside is the "race" style collector which slip fits over the individual tubes rather than being welded so they are noisy. I am considering swapping them.

Also, I've been out of town for the past 3 weeks. 2 weeks of vacation vagabond style on motorcycles and 1 week for work.

But exciting thing that I haven't been able to think about much for 3 weeks is:

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Please accept this as your formal invitation to the seventh annual Super Chevy Suspension & Handling Challenge on August 25 and 26. This year’s event will once again be held at The Streets of Willow Springs Raceway in Rosamond, California. Our event consists of three track-type tests (slalom, skidpad and autocross) and an on-the-road evaluation for comfort and roadability.
Should be interesting! Its coming down to the wire on finding 200tw tires since I have the R888's right now.

Jr 08-20-2014 04:50 PM

Sounds good.

Which header will you try next?

Chad-1stGen 08-20-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jr (Post 566651)
Sounds good.

Which header will you try next?

No idea and it is not a very high priority item so unless I find out it is messing with my O2 sensors it will be a long time from now.

Chad-1stGen 08-29-2014 09:49 AM

Here are a couple of fun teaser pics from a trip out to Streets of Willow Springs earlier this week for the Super Chevy Handling Challenge.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...50207456_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hph...37493839_n.jpg

http://scontent-b-sea.cdninstagram.c...48805835_n.jpg

I like the middle pic with both Streets and Big Willow in the background :)

efs69 08-29-2014 02:43 PM

Chad,

Good meeting you at Willow. The car looked really good out there.

Efrain

Chad-1stGen 08-29-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by efs69 (Post 568001)
Chad,

Good meeting you at Willow. The car looked really good out there.

Efrain

Efrain, thanks for stopping by the thread. It was good meeting you too. I was impressed with your dedication on day 2!!! Your car is pretty baddass!

tubbed69 08-29-2014 06:50 PM

Chad your camaro looks great,nice job:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Flash68 08-29-2014 07:17 PM

Awesome Chad... can't wait to see some "results" :)

Ron in SoCal 08-29-2014 08:46 PM

Chad pics look great! How was the two days?

Sorry I missed it...:getout:

Chad-1stGen 08-30-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 568030)
Chad your camaro looks great,nice job:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thank you! Still more wrenching to do but hoping to get that ratio as close to 100% driving and 0% wrenching as I can :)

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 568033)
Awesome Chad... can't wait to see some "results" :)

Yeah, well sadly you have to wait until the January issue of the Super Chevy magazine.

I've been comparing my own data to the last time I was at SOWS and except for two high speed turns that are more of a car comfort / balls thing the car went around a lot faster with a lot higher G's than the last time I was there. Turn 1 and turn 10 which are both at the end of a high speed section, neither myself or Marry P. came close to the speeds I was carrying back in 2011. Seems I was either fearless or maybe a few hundred laps on the old setup gave me a high level of confidence on the high speed stuff :p

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 568046)
Chad pics look great! How was the two days?

Sorry I missed it...:getout:

I'm sorry you missed it too Ron. IMO you didn't miss anything Monday. Monday was the slalom and skid pad and running the cars through those for the magazine was pretty boring as a spectator. Tuesday was a lot of fun though. Much more fun as a spectator to see these cars out on the course. Also, more fun to be able to take your own car out there.

It was fun to compare my track data against Marry Pozzi's driving too.

The first time I got to hear my own car come down the straight redlining second gear I about jizzed my pants!!! lol. I didn't have the coolest engine their and there were folks making more power, but damn did my car sound good coming down the straight!!


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