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Boosted Falcon 05-23-2019 09:00 AM

Like this build (rebuild) and has giving me the boot in the ass I need to get more than a few hours a week on my project.

craig510 05-24-2019 09:24 PM

Spent many hours tig welding on the tunnel:
https://i.imgur.com/37WwGAzl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xShWwxGl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WTCygK7l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VY1p2OOl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Nc280FMl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/G12kvGDl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wGrrYIql.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5TpZo48l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GLpcCLCl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/35L88ZIl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XfXYuDIl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4iW8F1yl.jpg

Beechy 05-24-2019 10:00 PM

Very creative :superhack:

I like the way those crossmember sections taper out.

BTW.....who is the cad designer? I'm ex GM Holden cad guy.

craig510 05-25-2019 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beechy (Post 692943)
Very creative :superhack:

I like the way those crossmember sections taper out.

BTW.....who is the cad designer? I'm ex GM Holden cad guy.

Thanks. I do all the CAD work. I’m a mechanical engineer by trade. And by CAD I mean both computer aided and cardboard aided. This job was all hand fabricated and cutout with a jig saw and angle grinder.

Try2paz 05-25-2019 07:24 AM

Craig car is looking great! Pm me when you head down to crows as I’ll roll with you.

craig510 05-25-2019 08:17 AM

:RunninDog:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Try2paz (Post 692953)
Craig car is looking great! Pm me when you head down to crows as I’ll roll with you.

Sounds good. I’m going to run Good Guys next weekend and skip AAS. I hope to run one or both days for the LMP AAS event on 7/6 and 7/7.

Are you going to run the Camaro in cam-c?

Try2paz 05-28-2019 03:53 PM

I'm going to run the Camaro @ AAS this Sunday morning however i'm (50/50) as the Wife is due any day now with baby #3.

I just do fun run because I don't run enough for them to give me a Cam-C number.

If that all falls apart i'll most likely roll over to GG

rustomatic 05-29-2019 11:45 AM

This--I like the Saturday (7-6). Maybe I can finally get to Crows and make a mess . . .

Are you cam-T, Craig? My car looks pretty "traditional," so it should fit there.

Nice work on the car as usual!

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 692954)
:RunninDog:

Sounds good. I’m going to run Good Guys next weekend and skip AAS. I hope to run one or both days for the LMP AAS event on 7/6 and 7/7.

Are you going to run the Camaro in cam-c?


craig510 05-29-2019 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 693027)
This--I like the Saturday (7-6). Maybe I can finally get to Crows and make a mess . . .

Are you cam-T, Craig? My car looks pretty "traditional," so it should fit there.

Nice work on the car as usual!

Yes cam-t for me. As long as it has floor coverings and is 3000# or more it should be fine. No floor coverings and or less than 3000# is cam-s.

craig510 05-29-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Try2paz (Post 692994)
I'm going to run the Camaro @ AAS this Sunday morning however i'm (50/50) as the Wife is due any day now with baby #3.

I just do fun run because I don't run enough for them to give me a Cam-C number.

If that all falls apart i'll most likely roll over to GG

Good luck with the new baby! I don’t know whether to say “congratulations or you poor bastard” 😀.

Flash68 05-29-2019 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 693034)
Good luck with the new baby! I don’t know whether to say “congratulations or you poor bastard” 😀.

As the father of 2 and 4 year olds... I am gonna go with you poor bastard! :headspin: :lol:

Try2paz 05-29-2019 10:08 PM

Hence the purchase of a turn key track car vs a 60yr old one!

Flash68 05-30-2019 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Try2paz (Post 693048)
Hence the purchase of a turn key track car vs a 60yr old one!

Smart man! :D

glassman 06-02-2019 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Try2paz (Post 692994)
I'm going to run the Camaro @ AAS this Sunday morning however i'm (50/50) as the Wife is due any day now with baby #3.

I just do fun run because I don't run enough for them to give me a Cam-C number.

If that all falls apart i'll most likely roll over to GG

Yours? :lol:

I had no idea you guys were pregs. Congrats and well wishes, now back to our regular scheduled programming

glassman 06-02-2019 07:05 AM

Car looked really good out there yesterday Craig. How did the Holley yesterday?

I developed a stumble, might be the 9 month old gas lol, or the nut behind the wheel (I had a not so good driving day, but a great day with friends)

craig510 06-03-2019 09:23 PM

Had a great weekend. Surprised a few people and hurt some feelings :D.

All the hard work payed off and the car performed flawlessly. The RE-71Rs picked up 0.2g's in grip over the 615K+ and I picked up 10 mph with the new motor.

This was my best run from Saturday was an 82.6. I studied the videos and logs and made some line changes for Sunday. First run was down to 80.2 plus one cone. By the end of the day I was down to a 79.8 which was good enough for 2nd in Street Machine and 10th overall.

I made it into the shootout but took myself out on the first run by overcooking the second straight and plowing through some cones. Better luck next time, but at least I am in the running again.

This was my run from Saturday. I'll post up the 79.8 with telemetry later.


craig510 06-04-2019 04:11 PM

Best run from the weekend. The new motor rips. 52 mph in first gear and 1.2 cornering 1.4 braking g’s.

glassman 06-04-2019 07:01 PM

Excellent. Hard work paying off!

Panteracer 06-05-2019 08:54 AM

1963 Falcon
 
Great news Craig.. glad the car
is doing what you want... always
a good feeling

Bob

SSLance 06-05-2019 10:54 AM

Car looks VERY composed Craig! Nice work.

Man that's a long course...I've seen a few sideline videos of it but first one from inside the car for me. Would have loved to run that a few times to get the hang of it.

I too have made the shootout a few times now but haven't been able to do anything with it once in. That's the next thing I want to do, win at least one round in one. :D

rustomatic 06-05-2019 07:23 PM

Very nice video action, Craig. That obscure non-LS Ford engine sounds quite happy having the snot revved out of it in your non-1969 non-Camaro Falcon. I'll hope to see this thing in action once again in the next couple of months.:lol:

craig510 06-05-2019 08:33 PM

Thanks guys. I’m basically tickled pink. Motor pulls 8k, runs on 91 octane and the 285 RE-71Rs stick like crazy. Now it’s up to me to step up my game.

SSLance 06-06-2019 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 693337)
Thanks guys. I’m basically tickled pink. Motor pulls 8k, runs on 91 octane and the 285 RE-71Rs stick like crazy. Now it’s up to me to step up my game.

Were you on the rev limiter coming thru the finish?

And I bet you love the new small tire rule for SM right? :D

craig510 06-06-2019 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 693351)
Were you on the rev limiter coming thru the finish?

And I bet you love the new small tire rule for SM right? :D

Yes and yes. I hit the limiter crossing the line both laps. It is set at 7900. The new tire rule was why I got 285s and didn’t jump to 335s and flares.

Boosted Falcon 06-07-2019 12:33 PM

Craig,

Would like to hear what work you had to do to fit the 285's. To fit the 285's did you mini tub the inner fender? What width wheels are you running? With all the measuring I have done I believe I can fit 275 with a 9.5 wide wheel with the stock wheel opening/inner fender. The wheels I want to run, Trans Am Engineering have a number of options for back spacing which has me wondering if I might be able to squeeze in a 285.

craig510 06-10-2019 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Falcon (Post 693444)
Craig,

Would like to hear what work you had to do to fit the 285's. To fit the 285's did you mini tub the inner fender? What width wheels are you running? With all the measuring I have done I believe I can fit 275 with a 9.5 wide wheel with the stock wheel opening/inner fender. The wheels I want to run, Trans Am Engineering have a number of options for back spacing which has me wondering if I might be able to squeeze in a 285.

If you go back to about page 3 in my thread you can see the mini-tub. No way, no how would they fit without a mini-tub or flares. No way would a 275 fit either. I had to push the lips out another 1/2" and notch the back area of the frame another 3/8" to get the 285's to barely fit in the rear and they rub pretty bad articulating in and out of my driveway.

The front "fit" pretty well with my short spindles and the MOD1 control arms. I had to limit the steering angle a bit to keep the tire from rubbing the shock and I pulled another 3/4" out of the front fenders. The lips are rolled pulled flattened and pulled. I managed to put a small wrinkle in them this time.

Wheels are very difficult to remove in the rear and require removing the push rods to allow for more droop. (this was a problem with the 255's as well, I use to remove a shackle bolt). I am seriously considering cutting the lips off front and rear and doing some small flares. I was going to go big (with 335's) but I really like how it looks tucking some tire and I am competitive in Street Machine now so big flares will have to weight.

Wheels are 10.5" wide.

Boosted Falcon 06-14-2019 01:19 PM

Thanks

rustomatic 06-25-2019 10:28 AM

I so respect and appreciate the honesty in this post, Craig. More people, at least those who actually do their own work, need to read this post, as it clearly and specifically shows what it takes to add functionality with big tires. Granted, people probably don't realize how ridiculously high your standards are, but hey, making non-standard **** work is hard.

I gave up on "tucking tire" a long time ago . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 693565)
If you go back to about page 3 in my thread you can see the mini-tub. No way, no how would they fit without a mini-tub or flares. No way would a 275 fit either. I had to push the lips out another 1/2" and notch the back area of the frame another 3/8" to get the 285's to barely fit in the rear and they rub pretty bad articulating in and out of my driveway.

The front "fit" pretty well with my short spindles and the MOD1 control arms. I had to limit the steering angle a bit to keep the tire from rubbing the shock and I pulled another 3/4" out of the front fenders. The lips are rolled pulled flattened and pulled. I managed to put a small wrinkle in them this time.

Wheels are very difficult to remove in the rear and require removing the push rods to allow for more droop. (this was a problem with the 255's as well, I use to remove a shackle bolt). I am seriously considering cutting the lips off front and rear and doing some small flares. I was going to go big (with 335's) but I really like how it looks tucking some tire and I am competitive in Street Machine now so big flares will have to weight.

Wheels are 10.5" wide.


craig510 07-31-2019 05:20 PM

Been working on some flares.


jarhead 08-01-2019 10:39 AM

Wow!

syborg tt 08-01-2019 11:59 AM

Freaking Awesome !!!

So do you plan to make flare so you can fir a wider tire ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 695271)
Been working on some flares.



rustomatic 08-01-2019 06:52 PM

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Flares, shmares. Go for the second line up. Get the angle grinder. The first cut is never the deepest, but we get better cutting as we practice . . . :disgusted:

craig510 08-03-2019 09:17 PM

My little guy likes to get in on the action:
https://i.imgur.com/gLP5kMWl.jpg

Still will be able to keep the trim:
https://i.imgur.com/AmLaouXl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XkOA2sol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/p26Nr7pl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dNSaTfFl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VDaqNdnl.jpg

Super nice fit for fusion TIG welding.
https://i.imgur.com/B05HAF9l.jpg

craig510 08-03-2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 695305)
Flares, shmares. Go for the second line up. Get the angle grinder. The first cut is never the deepest, but we get better cutting as we practice . . . :disgusted:

No thanks. I’ll keep it sanitary and stock looking. The body saw and 80 grit on a right angle die grinder to get the gaps perfect for hours of TIG.

craig510 08-04-2019 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyd (Post 695374)
Looks great. What are you using to make the flares? Other fenders? Hand forming?

Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Thanks.

I used quarter panel patch sections for the basic shapes but they have been heavily reworked. The fronts are 71 Mustang rear and the rears are W123 Mercedes. I had to narrow the front lips and flatten the rears plus form the contour so that it matches the factory lines. Plus a bunch of shrinker/ stretcher work and sectioning to adjust the radius.

craig510 08-30-2019 10:12 PM

Had a good time at GoodGuys. Got 4th in a tight 4 way battle for street machine. Made it into the shootout and got knocked out first round. At least I put in a good showing and made the winner work for it. It was a quick clean run but he got me by about 3 tenths.

https://i.imgur.com/0F6vGSfl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RMSvA3el.jpg
Sitting in the pits with raw metal and all

https://i.imgur.com/hJ5DWxll.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gauyZYal.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vrOA7Ynl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MZtsaGWl.jpg
Near Perfect fit for TIG welding

https://i.imgur.com/FE4O54Bl.jpg

And a Video to prove it:


Enjoy - Craig

Kcrain 08-31-2019 06:43 AM

Boy those flares really blend in and fit the car. When painted probably won’t be noticeable without parking beside a stocker. Look great Keith

hackster 08-31-2019 06:15 PM

Stellar work as always man.

I friggin love this car and what you are doing.

Sean

craig510 09-02-2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackster (Post 696175)
Stellar work as always man.

I friggin love this car and what you are doing.

Sean

Thanks Sean, not as fast as you but I think I have a little more attention to detail. You get out and wheel more though so I think you win.

I don't think I shared my dyno pull. It sounded absoultly amazing, then the numbers came up and it was a little disapointing. Only 318hp and 300ft-lb at the tire. It was about 98 degrees and I only had 28 deg timing. Solid roller and 9.7:1 with Arco 91 octane. It feels better and runs cooler at 34 degrees.


Dave Pratt 09-02-2019 10:32 PM

Man I've got a new favourite car! Great work it's beyond cool...


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