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Vegas69 04-11-2014 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 546376)
Next year you'll probably be arguing for a transmission like the 'Vette has for public roads or autocross. :lol:

That and ass warmers. :D

Cris@JCG 07-21-2014 08:51 AM

Go bored with the look in the engine bay! Looking for some more power on the top end.. setting the rev limiter to 7200! Testing this weekend @ Streets of Willow.. Then we are off to Portland for the USCA event.. Plus we got a C5 Z06 Corvette that we just did a LS7 swap!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7e8211f8.jpg

syborg tt 07-21-2014 08:55 AM

I love that intake but does it fit under the hood

Cris@JCG 07-21-2014 09:03 AM

Cutting up the TA hood right now.. We barely cleared it!


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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 561696)
I love that intake but does it fit under the hood


65_LS1_T56 07-21-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 561699)
Cutting up the TA hood right now..

Oh boy...here comes the hate mail :lol:


You gonna make it to Motorstate Chris? I think I remember Good Ron saying you were not.

Cris@JCG 07-21-2014 09:23 AM

I get alot of crap for the LS in the Mopar.. but when this thing comes down the track screaming @ WOT.. People just over see it.. sometimes..

Unfornately I will not be making it to Motorstate this year.. I have family coming in from TX that did not allow me to go racing.. Plus I am driving the Challenger @ Portland.. Motorstate is one of my favorite events!


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Originally Posted by 65_LS1_T56 (Post 561701)
Oh boy...here comes the hate mail :lol:


You gonna make it to Motorstate Chris? I think I remember Good Ron saying you were not.


Cris@JCG 07-21-2014 09:28 AM

Here is a video of me driving @ USCA in Fontana..


Flash68 07-21-2014 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 561711)
Here is a video of me driving @ USCA in Fontana..


Cris, your lines were pretty good....



















when you were following Rockin Rob. :lol:

Vince@Meanstreets 07-21-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 561699)
Cutting up the TA hood right now.. We barely cleared it!

SIX PACK HOOD SIX PACK HOOD!!!! :theresa: :theresa: :theresa:

Rick D 07-21-2014 06:03 PM

Nice run Cris, I keep saying he has way more power then the other cars out there shouldn't be to long be for you pass them!!

efs69 07-21-2014 10:53 PM

The car is already fast. What kind of power bump will the intake give?

tom091074 07-23-2014 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 504515)
That is nothing.. You should see the way our welder outlets are thru out the shop! :superhack:

Electrician is due next week to fix that..

I'm an electrician if you want to work out a trade? :D

GregWeld 07-23-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tom091074 (Post 562181)
I'm an electrician if you want to work out a trade? :D



If I was an inspector -- I'd have red tagged the building.

tom091074 07-23-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 562206)
If I was an inspector -- I'd have red tagged the building.

This one is way worse!

Jtomas801 07-23-2014 09:49 PM

The Challenger keeps getting better, keep up the great work!

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Originally Posted by tom091074 (Post 562424)
This one is way worse!

Nothing 2 more extension boxes can't fix ;)


Jon

tom091074 07-23-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtomas801 (Post 562430)
The Challenger keeps getting better, keep up the great work!



Nothing 2 more extension boxes can't fix ;)


Jon

True.

Cris@JCG 07-24-2014 07:39 AM

My afternoon sessions were faster as I cleaned up my driving & was shown what were cleaner lines.. plus was shifting sooner instead of hitting the rev limiter plus was only in 3rd & 4th gear..

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 561762)
Cris, your lines were pretty good....

when you were following Rockin Rob. :lol:

Uncertain what power gains we will see but hoping to some power that we lost in the top end with the cam swap we did.. Yesterday we tuned the car & feel a bit of a difference.. but the biggest improvement was how much cooler the air temp was while driving.. as soon as you shut the car off the heat soak of the intake would get hot..

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Originally Posted by efs69 (Post 561899)
The car is already fast. What kind of power bump will the intake give?

Still sitting the same as the last picture! :D

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 562206)
If I was an inspector -- I'd have red tagged the building.


Jr 07-24-2014 08:51 AM

Cris,
Did you change the brakes? If so, how did they work? Will you share the new setup?

Track Junky 07-24-2014 09:23 AM

Enjoyed the vid Chris. 200 TW tires are way too much work. :lol:

MCB Matt 07-24-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tom091074 (Post 562424)
This one is way worse!

As a previous Electrician as well, that J box is a MESS!!! I can't believe some Tradesmen would do work like that nice little fire hazzard, not to mention the poor guy who has to troubleshoot in that little 4 sq box!

Matt

Cris@JCG 08-04-2014 06:42 PM

So last Saturday (July 26th) took the Challenger out for some testing with the new intake to Streets of Willow & hurt the engine.. I thought I was done & was not going to make the event with USCA in Portland but Karl let me borrow a back up motor for the event.. bone stock LS3 crate engine with a cam.. 525 hp crate engine.. Rev limiter was set at 6600 rpm.. no time to break in the engine.. but managed to get the engine swaped out in one day.. & off to the event. PIR was one hell of a track!!! It took me awhile to get used driving on that back straight..

Some video! I made due with what I had.. was early breaking with appexing.. but that is where I felt comfortable driving.. Plus it sucked being down HP & torque!


GregWeld 08-04-2014 09:09 PM

There is no break in on a roller cam motor....

efs69 08-05-2014 11:44 AM

Chris what program or app are you using for the video capture with data? Also on the rear spoiler do you make something like that for a first generation camaro?

Cris@JCG 08-05-2014 04:10 PM

Using the Smarty cam & data logger from http://www.aim-sportline.com/index_eng.htm..

Have not made a spoiler like the one from the Challenger for any 1st gen Camaros.. but got a 69 coming in next month for some aero work.. I will let ya know if come up with something...



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Originally Posted by efs69 (Post 564122)
Chris what program or app are you using for the video capture with data? Also on the rear spoiler do you make something like that for a first generation camaro?


efs69 08-05-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 564152)
Using the Smarty cam & data logger from http://www.aim-sportline.com/index_eng.htm..

Have not made a spoiler like the one from the Challenger for any 1st gen Camaros.. but got a 69 coming in next month for some aero work.. I will let ya know if come up with something...

Thanks Cris.

adamp 01-01-2015 09:33 PM

AMAZING!!! This car is just perfect! I joined this forum just for this thread (a member of forabodiesonly turned me on to it.

I am currently in the process of putting an LS in my 1970 Dodge Dart. You're Challenger is just beautiful... I have a site for all LS swapped cars including mine www.builttobedriven.com

would you mind if I featured your ride once I get the section going?

:king:
:king:
:king:

Cris@JCG 01-03-2015 03:33 PM

Thank you for the compliments on the 70 Challenger! This car has been an absolute blast to not only race it but the privlidge of building ... I am glad that we will not only be the only ones with an LS Mopar.. We got notified a few weeks ago that we have a feature story in Hot Rod Magazine.. Great honor to get some ink in that magazine.. we have no problems with you doing a feature on the car..

Here is a great picture that Falken tire did last month!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68f7680f.jpg


I finally shipped the car home to Karl for Christmas.. I had a hard time letting the car go because it was such a great car to drive around town.. My daughter luved me picking her up from school with it.. car had 4500 miles on it!
Karl knew that I was going a hard time shipping it out .. so he did not want to send out the trailer empty back to CA.. My new toy for 2015.. 1971 Trans Am!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...psc46d4d9c.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ps12641825.jpg



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Originally Posted by adamp (Post 587907)
AMAZING!!! This car is just perfect! I joined this forum just for this thread (a member of forabodiesonly turned me on to it.

I am currently in the process of putting an LS in my 1970 Dodge Dart. You're Challenger is just beautiful... I have a site for all LS swapped cars including mine www.builttobedriven.com

would you mind if I featured your ride once I get the section going?

:king:
:king:
:king:


89 RS 01-07-2015 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=Cris@JCG;588097]Thank you for the compliments on the 70 Challenger! This car has been an absolute blast to not only race it but the privlidge of building ... I am glad that we will not only be the only ones with an LS Mopar.. We got notified a few weeks ago that we have a feature story in Hot Rod Magazine.. Great honor to get some ink in that magazine.. we have no problems with you doing a feature on the car..

Here is a great picture that Falken tire did last month!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ps68f7680f.jpg


Killer pic! The Challenger is one wicked machine!

Cris, I tried searching, but I couldn't find anything about the Corvette in your avatar. Is the Corvette a current build? I love the looks of it in the avatar.

Lenie 01-08-2015 12:53 PM

Great pic Cris!

Kcrain 01-08-2015 04:15 PM

Seen the write up in the new issues of hot rod looked at the picture than had to run out for work. Looks like a nice write up will read when I get home. Keith

hp2 01-08-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 564033)
So last Saturday (July 26th) took the Challenger out for some testing with the new intake to Streets of Willow & hurt the engine.. I thought I was done & was not going to make the event with USCA in Portland but Karl let me borrow a back up motor for the event.. bone stock LS3 crate engine with a cam..

I hadn't followed this build since way back when all the driveline was sold off up until now when it popped up in Hot Rod's recent issue. I had missed the post above in the meantime.

So are two custom built and one stock with a cam LSs still cheaper and easier than a well built 3G Hemi?

Last I checked an Indy Cylinder Head 426cid 3G Hemi with 720 hp is $18,500. An Arrington 440cid 3G Hemi making 630hp is $16,950. I think those are right there in the hunt price and power wise with some of those Mast offerings.

jlwdvm 01-09-2015 10:22 AM

Which Borla's did you use? Sounds Awesome!
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Originally Posted by Cris@JCG (Post 521307)
Finally found some time to get some work done on the Challenger.. Next week we get the trunk & hood mounted.. & the driving begins to proof all the prototype suspension we have developed.. So far all is looking good!



Cris@JCG 01-09-2015 06:50 PM

We got 4 cars we run.. We can swap motors or keep one spare & keep us racing.. As long as we own the Challenger.. It will be powered by an LS..:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by hp2 (Post 588866)
I hadn't followed this build since way back when all the driveline was sold off up until now when it popped up in Hot Rod's recent issue. I had missed the post above in the meantime.

So are two custom built and one stock with a cam LSs still cheaper and easier than a well built 3G Hemi?

Last I checked an Indy Cylinder Head 426cid 3G Hemi with 720 hp is $18,500. An Arrington 440cid 3G Hemi making 630hp is $16,950. I think those are right there in the hunt price and power wise with some of those Mast offerings.

Custom built muffers they do for me..

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Originally Posted by jlwdvm (Post 588917)
Which Borla's did you use? Sounds Awesome!


Cris@JCG 01-09-2015 06:51 PM

ANother action shot on the road course!

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3240158a.png

GRob 04-24-2015 08:19 AM

Chris, what size wheels are you using on this car?

Oh and it needs a Hellcat under the hood. :brix:

DavidBoren 04-24-2015 10:55 AM

Hellcat under the hood? No, mister, no...

Why replace a 700hp naturally aspirated engine with a 700hp blower motor? Oh, and why replace a motor that interchanges with the other cars to one that doesn't? And why put a Mopar engine in it at all? Then it wouldn't irritate all the Mopar snobs, and that's one of the best parts of this build... right up there with the awesome fabrication, amazing test pilot cast, and the obvious craftsmanship behind the parts/assembly of a car that can be beat on at the track.

Great car, read the whole build, love it. I wouldn't think twice cutting up an all original anything, give me Carroll Shelby's very own winningest ever AC Cobra, and I will chop it up and stick a GM 'vette suspension in it with a import 2jz engine, just to piss everyone off.

Purists and traditionalists piss me off. If the all original car was worth keeping original, maybe it could have done what the customer wanted without needing to go to a custom shop for a custom build. If the 440+6 was so damn awesome, it wouldn't have needed replaced with an LS motor to achieve what the customer wanted. Same with all the original suspension. Ever think that the customer bought the all original 440+6 because it was a badass car, and then exceeded the abilities of that design and wanted more? Who are any of you to question what someone else wants to spend their money on or do with their own property? Buying something all original just means you have more to change, factory cars aren't built to perform at the level we want them to. Original equipment does us absolutely no good, none. Especially 1970 original equipment.

Tear it out, cut it up, stuff whatever works in, beat the hell out of it, drive it, enjoy it. Leave tradition in the museum.

57hemicuda 04-24-2015 12:51 PM

Cutting up a 6 Pack car is stupid, I really don't know what kind of mental instability Karl and Chris have, they just need to stay away from me so I don't catch it!! It's like herpes.

DavidBoren 04-24-2015 01:26 PM

Why is it stupid? I don't understand that. It wasn't an all original car! Hell, none of them are these days, if you want to get technical... which all you purists seem to be all about being as technical as possible. Did you ever change a spark plug, a bulb, a filter, the air in tires or the oil in the engine? Then it's not original any more... get over it!

This all-so-precious, cream of the crop, 6-pack car didn't live up to its owner's expectations as it was... end of story. It wasn't F'ing good enough as it was in its close to original state.

What was he supposed to do, huh? Sell the Challenger he already had in his possession, buy a different Challenger, in worse condition, that will take longer and cost more to build, just to not piss in some Mopar fanatic's cheerios? Get real. Buy a nice car, in good condition, so it can be built how you want it quicker, and drive the piss out of it. He bought the car to drive, not collect, and it wasn't going to drive how he wants to drive it in its Mopar V-code Hemi 6-pack version, so he changed it. It's his car to change. Why does anyone think that they have the right to judge him or anyone else?

If hobbyists and gear heads didn't tinker, swap, and change what the factory put out, then we wouldn't have had any of these muscle cars. Changing what the factory makes is what we do. And it makes the industry better. If the V-code, Hemi 6-pack was never changed by shadetree mechanics, then Dodge never would have evolved to the point of making the Hellcat, because everyone was satisfied with the V-code. Change needs to happen. Welcome to evolution and progress.

57hemicuda 04-24-2015 01:55 PM

Just stupid, Karl and Cris should be publicly flogged. They know why!!!

dontlifttoshift 04-24-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 603493)
Cutting up a 6 Pack car is stupid, I really don't what kind of mental instability Karl and Chris have, they just need to stay away from me so I don't catch it!! It's like herpes.

Now this thread has herpes, nice going.:D


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