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GregWeld 08-09-2014 07:15 PM
The elevations on this track are just so dang much fun..... I love hustling down the front straight and turning up that hill into T2 and then down into the dip at T3 and back up and out of T3A.... then hustling down out of T7 and into the twists on the back.

Hope the folks that haven't had a chance - get one. If you do - don't pass it up. It's awesome.

Track Junky 08-09-2014 07:24 PM
Not to mention the track setting and the views. Hard to explain but one of those tracks you don't want to drive home from. Don't know how many times I've pondered renting one of the shops out to live in.

intocarss 08-09-2014 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 564813)
The elevations on this track are just so dang much fun..... I love hustling down the front straight and turning up that hill into T2 and then down into the dip at T3 and back up and out of T3A.... then hustling down out of T7 and into the twists on the back.

Hope the folks that haven't had a chance - get one. If you do - don't pass it up. It's awesome.
I road around 90% of that track on a bicycle during an NHRA event back in the 80's. Does that count?? :confused59:

GregWeld 08-09-2014 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 564816)
I road around 90% of that track on a bicycle during an NHRA event back in the 80's. Does that count?? :confused59:



Not if your bike was a two speed automatic.

intocarss 08-09-2014 08:05 PM
I'll shift once as I pass you GW.. BTW I remember a place that had a bunch of old Navy ships parked (in the water) to be scraped..Is it still there and is it near the track?? It was a hell of a site to see

GregWeld 08-09-2014 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 564819)
I'll shift once as I pass you GW.. BTW I remember a place that had a bunch of old Navy ships parked (in the water) to be scraped..Is it still there and is it near the track?? It was a hell of a site to see


Probably saw them when going over the bridge on I-680 ---- there's a mothball fleet there in Suisun Bay.

Sieg 08-09-2014 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 564816)
I road around 90% of that track on a bicycle during an NHRA event back in the 80's. Does that count?? :confused59:
Only time I'd seen the track prior to the first session on Saturday was in '92 or '93 when we towed my friend's (Mel Bryson) Willy's up to flat out of T2 for a magazine photo shoot during the Jim Davis Memorial Drags. :D

http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/...-Hovsepian.jpg

Sieg 08-09-2014 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 564819)
I'll shift once as I pass you GW.. BTW I remember a place that had a bunch of old Navy ships parked (in the water) to be scraped..Is it still there and is it near the track?? It was a hell of a site to see
Here's a Google Earth image that shows them!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Se...59877392?hl=en

intocarss 08-09-2014 08:57 PM
Thanks for the name GW and Sieg. Looks like they emptied that place out.

Track Junky 08-09-2014 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 564819)
I'll shift once as I pass you GW.. BTW I remember a place that had a bunch of old Navy ships parked (in the water) to be scraped..Is it still there and is it near the track?? It was a hell of a site to see
That place is Mare Island. The EPA put a stop to the scrapping of the ships and now what they do is bring them to Mare Island just to make them sea worthy enough to get them to Texas and then they scrap them there.
The Navy did a lot of damage to the waters in that area not to mention the surrounding land on Mare Island where they were based. Lennar Homes now owns a huge piece of the area and have put up a few housing developments there. Often during excavations for infrastructure we come across silver dirt buried below the surface. The silver dirt is lead paint that was sand blasted from the ships hulls.
I've been told that there is a lot of ammunition from the war ships that was dumped into the waters there. Story has it that war ships would be sent out on training missions and if they came back to Mare Island with any ammo left on board they would lose funding to buy more ammo so they started dumping the ammo before docking.

intocarss 08-09-2014 11:27 PM
Thanks for the insight Tracky

GregWeld 08-10-2014 06:27 AM
"Chasing the car in front of you into a BRAKING ZONE at 130mph is quite intoxicating. It is expensive, and a poor guy with some skill will find out he can't beat a rich guy with some talent"




Here Jerry -- I fixed it for you.... so now Gaetano can use it too....

Track Junky 08-10-2014 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 564859)
"Chasing the car in front of you into a BRAKING ZONE at 130mph is quite intoxicating. It is expensive, and a poor guy with some skill will find out he can't beat a rich guy with some talent"




Here Jerry -- I fixed it for you.... so now Gaetano can use it too....
Sieg, can you call Greg and see if he is OK. I think he has lost his mind. :lol:

fleetus macmullitz 08-10-2014 09:44 AM
Enjoying all your pics Sieg.

This one stood out for me at least...it's one of the best shots of the 33Speed I've seen so far. :thumbsup:


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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 564165)

Sieg 08-10-2014 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 564903)
Sieg, can you call Greg and see if he is OK. I think he has lost his mind. :lol:
NO

:D

Sieg 08-10-2014 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cosmo mentis (Post 564916)
Enjoying all your pics Sieg.

This one stood out for me at least...it's one of the best shots of the 33Speed I've seen so far. :thumbsup:
Thanks Skip. The car is something else in person. Doesn't stand out at all, but man it sure draws a crowd especially from people in the know. One of the most impressive features of the car to me is a very simple one.........the way the doors feel and sound when opening and closing - like none I have ever experienced.

GregWeld 08-10-2014 12:36 PM
I have to say -- I've gotten more good laughs out of this thread. And I thank you all for that!



Thanks Sieg! The '33 Brizio built RideTech wear'n' hot rod is really a sweet little ride... Think I'll head home from the shed and have Gwen take me for a ride around town.

intocarss 08-10-2014 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 564859)
"Chasing the car in front of you into a BRAKING ZONE at 130mph is quite intoxicating. It is expensive, and a poor guy with some skill will find out he can't beat a rich guy with some talent"




Here Jerry -- I fixed it for you.... so now Gaetano can use it too....
You're welcome

rustomatic 08-10-2014 04:06 PM
Thanks, Greg. Sorry to hear about your mechanicals, but I'm sure you'll find some very shiny solutions. I think finding out more about your Mustang was the reason I initially joined this site. If you like, I will attest to the fact that you spent a lot of time in front of a certain orange Camaro, and nobody could tell how hard you were breathing (or circulating refrigerated water across your chest).

Depending on how much the next month of my life thrashes me, I may just show up at Thunderhill in October, maybe even without any new body damage...

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 564625)
It was fun to put a face and a handshake to the name! Glad you came out and had a good time! I used to run Yellow group and had a blast... Frankly -- track time is track time and I don't really care what group I'm in. Apparently either does Sieg... but I digress. You car was awesome. Next time bring it up to Thunderhill and run the full 5 miles in October with us.

GregWeld 08-10-2014 04:21 PM
I don't do much shiny stuff -- but I do want reliability!!! I'm sick and tired of a motor that has constant issues. At least this time it happened late Sunday instead of like the last time I ran Sonoma, and it was on the first lap after a fresh rebuild! UGH. It's right after that last year that I bought the Lotus for a back up car and that worked out real well this time around. Sieg was out and I was in! LOL


The Cool Shirt was the best thing an old fat fart like me ever bought.... it was such an amazing difference in how I felt at the end of the day!! The driver suit I have to wear is too hot for the summer driving -- and I let Sieg wear the cooler summer single layer... which would be far more comfortable. I'm just too nice. LOL








Quote:
Originally Posted by rustomatic (Post 564978)
Thanks, Greg. Sorry to hear about your mechanicals, but I'm sure you'll find some very shiny solutions. I think finding out more about your Mustang was the reason I initially joined this site. If you like, I will attest to the fact that you spent a lot of time in front of a certain orange Camaro, and nobody could tell how hard you were breathing (or circulating refrigerated water across your chest).

Depending on how much the next month of my life thrashes me, I may just show up at Thunderhill in October, maybe even without any new body damage...

Sieg 08-10-2014 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 564979)
and I let Sieg wear the cooler summer single layer... which would be far more comfortable. I'm just too nice. LOL
That suits 34" inseam has nothing to do with it. Honest.

Flash68 08-10-2014 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 564841)
That place is Mare Island. The EPA put a stop to the scrapping of the ships and now what they do is bring them to Mare Island just to make them sea worthy enough to get them to Texas and then they scrap them there.
The Navy did a lot of damage to the waters in that area not to mention the surrounding land on Mare Island where they were based. Lennar Homes now owns a huge piece of the area and have put up a few housing developments there. Often during excavations for infrastructure we come across silver dirt buried below the surface. The silver dirt is lead paint that was sand blasted from the ships hulls.
I've been told that there is a lot of ammunition from the war ships that was dumped into the waters there. Story has it that war ships would be sent out on training missions and if they came back to Mare Island with any ammo left on board they would lose funding to buy more ammo so they started dumping the ammo before docking.
Mare Island Golf Course is the one my dad and I always play when he comes to visit. There are some cool old bunkers and military somethings all over that course. Feels like a time warp playing parts of that course.

Track Junky 08-10-2014 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 565007)
Mare Island Golf Course is the one my dad and I always play when he comes to visit. There are some cool old bunkers and military somethings all over that course. Feels like a time warp playing parts of that course.
The military still owns a large portion of Mare Island. Further north of the golf course there are areas that are fenced off with huge signs that say to stay off the property all around the perimeter. Rumor has it they used to do some sort of nuclear missile work and that the areas are radio active.

Richio1 08-10-2014 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 565009)
The military still owns a large portion of Mare Island. Further north of the golf course there are areas that are fenced off with huge signs that say to stay off the property all around the perimeter. Rumor has it they used to do some sort of nuclear missile work and that the areas are radio active.
Well that explains all the craziness in Vallejo. :lolhit:

Now :topic:

358Mustang 08-13-2014 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 564147)
First session on Saturday in green group during lap 2 or 3 everybody was reminded that this is a dangerous and expensive hobby. Story is he spun in his own fluid coming out of T8. Mike in our group was a couple cars behind and said he had to catch his car coming through the section and was pretty sure something was on the track.

From what I heard the car let go then hooked up and shot left off track and moved a 7,000 pound K wall and thankfully the driver was fine. I'm guessing the speed through that section is 80-90 mph and the K wall is 50-75' off the track.

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Q...QtW3dnZ-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-t...tLvPMV7-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-t...t8JnjHg-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4...4rsfNd9-XL.jpg

What this reinforced for me is the first session is an acclamation period for the driver and car. Pushing 9 or 10 tenths first session out isn't in anyones best interest IMO.

What's the track like today?

Are you on your game or maybe feeling slightly off?

Is the car near a 100% or was it apart prior to the event and not tested or thoroughly safety checked?

Could that fluid leak issue have been detected prior with a couple easy laps or could the crash have been prevented running the first session at 70-80%?

All speculation but worthy of consideration.......again IMO.
Hey thats my trailer in the back ground to the left of the car.. We talked to the guy and he sounded like an experienced guy, it was just one of those things that happens...

358Mustang 08-13-2014 04:16 AM
http://youtu.be/_20Hp85Cm0AHere is my little footage... Car was handling like crap, but I had fun.

I posted in the introduction section but Ill type it out here again... Long story short my shocks ended up getting lost in shipping. I was getting them revalved. So I was about to call it quits because this is a rear coilover shock. (and it is friday night). Well I ended up stealing the penske coil over shock I was using in the front (still regular coil spring though, not using as a coil over). Had to redo the shock mounts friday night, rig up some blown 40 year old koni's for the front but we made it there. Front end was all over the place but it was great to drive the car again. Then I got home and cut the front end off :lol:

GregWeld 08-13-2014 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 358Mustang (Post 565489)
Here is my little footage... Car was handling like crap, but I had fun.

I posted in the introduction section but Ill type it out here again... Long story short my shocks ended up getting lost in shipping. I was getting them revalved. So I was about to call it quits because this is a rear coilover shock. (and it is friday night). Well I ended up stealing the penske coil over shock I was using in the front (still regular coil spring though, not using as a coil over). Had to redo the shock mounts friday night, rig up some blown 40 year old koni's for the front but we made it there. Front end was all over the place but it was great to drive the car again. Then I got home and cut the front end off :lol:



Fixed it for ya!!







Ron in SoCal 08-13-2014 09:48 AM
And they just added Laguna in September with unlimited sound:

http://www.norcal-saac.org/lagunablast/

GregWeld 08-13-2014 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 565530)
And they just added Laguna in September with unlimited sound:

http://www.norcal-saac.org/lagunablast/



You'll have worn out three sets of Jack Stands by the end of September....

Ron in SoCal 08-13-2014 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 565532)
You'll have worn out three sets of Jack Stands by the end of September....
I think one of your cars might as well. :weld:

Flash68 08-13-2014 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 565530)
And they just added Laguna in September with unlimited sound:

http://www.norcal-saac.org/lagunablast/
Those words in the same sentence are epic!

Track Junky 08-13-2014 11:32 AM
That's ultra tempting

Vince@Meanstreets 08-13-2014 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 565551)
That's ultra tempting
your gonna need cooler brakes.

mike and his 70 are setting up for that.

Track Junky 08-13-2014 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 565553)
your gonna need cooler brakes.

mike and his 70 are setting up for that.
What I'm going to need is an instructor in the passenger seat if what I learned in Gran Turismo 4 doesn't work. :headscratch:

358Mustang 08-13-2014 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 565545)
Those words in the same sentence are epic!
Crap and of course I just cut my car up... I did the laguna bowl last year... Way fun! Never driven that track with my car..

If you guys go, I will definitely head out there and hang out/help. I live 20 min from the track.

Here is my car too, not the prettiest thing out.. Not the orange one either lol.

Panteracer 08-13-2014 02:45 PM
Norcal-Laguna
 
Might have to sign up for this one
Only ran Laguna one time on a 105 day with my
street exhaust.. time to put the out of state 4" straight
pipes on the 180's... sounds really sweet

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Sieg 08-13-2014 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 358Mustang (Post 565568)
Crap and of course I just cut my car up... I did the laguna bowl last year... Way fun! Never driven that track with my car..

If you guys go, I will definitely head out there and hang out/help. I live 20 min from the track.

Here is my car too, not the prettiest thing out.. Not the orange one either lol.
Pretty isn't a mandatory requirement for a good adrenaline pump. :thumbsup:

Welcome to Lat-G.

Glad that isn't your orange car, after seeing the carnage under yellow I had to inspect in person. Did you talk to the driver? Did he spin in his own fluid per the "official" story? One of our pit mates said his car got crossed up because of something on the track.

Vince@Meanstreets 08-13-2014 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 565557)
What I'm going to need is an instructor in the passenger seat if what I learned in Gran Turismo 4 doesn't work. :headscratch:
yaaaaaaa then your definitely gonna need bigger brakes.

Flash68 08-13-2014 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 358Mustang (Post 565568)
Crap and of course I just cut my car up... I did the laguna bowl last year... Way fun! Never driven that track with my car..

If you guys go, I will definitely head out there and hang out/help. I live 20 min from the track.

Here is my car too, not the prettiest thing out.. Not the orange one either lol.
Killer. I saw your car from a distance out there but never up close. Sounded great too. :thumbsup:

GregWeld 08-13-2014 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 565544)
I think one of your cars might as well. :weld:


I know it! I hate cars.


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