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ScotI 05-30-2019 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmachine1911 (Post 676390)
Love this pic for some reason! This is the same place/position this thing would stay in for the next 6 months...to this very day, actually, although not for much longer but I'll get to that part later.

One thing I didn't mention yet was the importance of this build to me on an emotional level. As I said, I've had this car for 26 years...it's been wrecked by me, painted by me, disassembled more times than I care to count, stolen from my driveway by a couple of D-bags and totaled out while running from the cops. It's also been loved by me, hated by me and enjoyed by me, my wife and two young boys. But it was by necessity that I decided to turn this car into the car I'd always dreamed it would be. Shortly after my wife and I were engaged, she was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 25. After surgery and some treatment, we were able to move forward with life, got married, had two wonderful boys 11 months apart (that's a whole other story), and went about living. It was 7 years later that her cancer came back and had spread to her lungs, so again we went thru various treatments and therapies and we stayed positive and kept the faith and stayed focused on living. By age 37, it had spread to her brain and by age 38 she had won her battle and was resting in her eternal home.

I only mention this because I learned many things in those years we were together (20 in all)...many things about myself, about my faith in Christ and about how amazing and selfless a gift she was to me. Among those things I've learned and tried to instill in my boys is that at the end of this life, having watched my best friend take her last breaths, our legacy is the only thing we leave behind in this world that can continue to make an impact once we're gone. How we treat people, how we deal with people both personally and professionally is what we leave as a testament to our character.

So after being on the back burner for a long time, this project was born from a necessity to keep my mind focused on something productive as much as it was a desire to make it a project of bringing the boys and I together to build something we could enjoy while at the same time teaching them the same skills my Dad taught me...

I promise I won't rain on the parade again! But sometimes the back story is the main story!

I've followed this build since the first post. Seeing where it is now reminded me of this background history so I wanted to say congrats on the current status of the car.
Your efforts to include your boys is a great reminder to them that their Mom picked the right guy while also teaching them about true/great character. Great looking build!

rixtrix1 05-30-2019 03:51 PM

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Rixtrix1, thanks for the input. I checked out Lance's ride and the orange really pops...such a nice ride. Part of me loves the race decor b/c I've always had a thing for the original Trans-Am cars with the meatball numbers and regalia and yet the other side likes the subtleness and understated "factory" appearance (as far as paint). I just need to find the balance!

Along this same vein, and as stated in other posts about contingency and "sponsors", sometimes one just wants to give a shout out to those companies whose products have worked for them. I'm sure if a sponsor wanted a specific logo on a vehicle, there might be some kind of contractual agreement in place.
Just some thoughts off the top of my head as I'm definitely not in a position to know, and doubt if my never finished Malibu will ever be worthy of such consideration. I've never attempted to talk to anyone with company decals on their car about it ( like the big QA1 decals on the back of Mills Robinson's Camaro) as I feel it's between them and the company. I try to concentrate on the build and how things were done on the cars.

Spiffav8 05-30-2019 07:05 PM

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So I ordered one of frankv11's cold air intake kits to take the place of the one I originally made for the car. The other one worked fine but needed a support brace and, most importantly, needed to be away from sucking hot air from behind the radiator. Frank's kit is really nice and he did a tremendous job getting my order turned around and out the door lightning fast. I wanted to have it in time to get it installed before HRPT so that obviously won't be a problem. Here's the initial mockup. Now I just need to get the tube pulled back out and painted before final assembly. This is one of the nicest kits I've seen for a first gen Camaro and well worth the money.

Frank does awesome work and is such a great guy. Jealous you got yours installed before I did! LoL Looks super sharp!!

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Gmachine1911 05-30-2019 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ScotI (Post 693088)
I've followed this build since the first post. Seeing where it is now reminded me of this background history so I wanted to say congrats on the current status of the car.
Your efforts to include your boys is a great reminder to them that their Mom picked the right guy while also teaching them about true/great character. Great looking build!

ScotI - thanks for following my build! I truly appreciate the kind words and I know their Mom would be proud of the young men they're becoming. Keep tuning in!:D

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Along this same vein, and as stated in other posts about contingency and "sponsors", sometimes one just wants to give a shout out to those companies whose products have worked for them. I'm sure if a sponsor wanted a specific logo on a vehicle, there might be some kind of contractual agreement in place.
Just some thoughts off the top of my head as I'm definitely not in a position to know, and doubt if my never finished Malibu will ever be worthy of such consideration. I've never attempted to talk to anyone with company decals on their car about it ( like the big QA1 decals on the back of Mills Robinson's Camaro) as I feel it's between them and the company. I try to concentrate on the build and how things were done on the cars.

Hey Ric - yeah, I definitely don't mind giving a shout out to the companies I've bought parts from that install and/or perform as advertised. All too often in this world bad news prevails so I always look for opportunities to pay compliments when I can...plus, I know I value honest opinions from others so I'm always willing to add input for anyone who's looking.
As for your Malibu, keep forward progress, it'll be yours and you'll know all the effort that went into it, even if no one else does. My car's certainly not sponsor-worthy either but I'll still have a ball with it! Some of the coolest cars I've been around would've never won "best paint" or "cleanest engine compartment"

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Frank does awesome work and is such a great guy. Jealous you got yours installed before I did! LoL Looks super sharp!!

:captain:

Curtis - so true, Frank actually had to add 2" of tubing in the middle by the MAF sensor. He got that done, spotted me the anodized block off covers (which are totally awesome) AND still managed to get it in the mail within 1 day of receiving payment. On top of that, he actually refunded me some of my shipping b/c the actual cost to ship was less than originally estimated and I still got it within 2 days...from California to Indiana. I would've never known the difference on the shipping. There's no better feeling then when you pay a fair price, get a great product with great service and you know your business is appreciated! #merica����
I love your car btw, one of these days I hope to see it in person!

Corey R. 05-31-2019 02:08 PM

What finish do you think you will use on the tubing?

Gmachine1911 06-01-2019 07:07 AM

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What finish do you think you will use on the tubing?

I'd love to have it anodized black but I've looked all over locally for someone who does it but no bueno. Frank said he stopped anodizing them b/c the areas where the welds are on the tubing discolored, so that makes me a little nervous. Long story short, since I need to get it done before Power Tour I'll probably just paint it.

XLexusTech 06-01-2019 07:11 AM

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I'd love to have it anodized black but I've looked all over locally for someone who does it but no bueno. Frank said he stopped anodizing them b/c the areas where the welds are on the tubing discolored, so that makes me a little nervous. Long story short, since I need to get it done before Power Tour I'll probably just paint it.

Powder coat ..?

Rolie1980 06-01-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmachine1911 (Post 693143)
I'd love to have it anodized black but I've looked all over locally for someone who does it but no bueno. Frank said he stopped anodizing them b/c the areas where the welds are on the tubing discolored, so that makes me a little nervous. Long story short, since I need to get it done before Power Tour I'll probably just paint it.



You may also consider using Cerakoat most gun shops do it and there are many colors to choose. Also turnaround should be relatively fast.


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Gmachine1911 06-01-2019 08:15 PM

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Powder coat ..?

Powder coat would definitely be great but I'll need to do something quick wit Power Tour coming up. I can't do the bare aluminum!

[QUOTE=Rolie1980;693151]You may also consider using Cerakoat most gun shops do it and there are many colors to choose. Also turnaround should be relatively fast.

That's a cool idea, hadn't thought about that!

XLexusTech 06-02-2019 06:27 AM

:computer:[QUOTE=Gmachine1911;693154]Powder coat would definitely be great but I'll need to do something quick wit Power Tour coming up. I can't do the bare aluminum!

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You may also consider using Cerakoat most gun shops do it and there are many colors to choose. Also turnaround should be relatively fast.

That's a cool idea, hadn't thought about that!


So if you are willing to sand or peen it off after .. a cheap quick fix ... it’s really hard when it cures
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Ole...6830/100141519

Gmachine1911 07-19-2019 08:13 PM

Here's a video of one of my runs from Goodguys Columbus. Had a blast running the course and got some much needed seat time. I did have some front inner fender rubbing goin on in the turns which affected my desire to push hard in the turns...didn't wanna completely chew up any tires or damage anything. With that in mind, I made some calls about wider inner fenders and turns out Anvil had some blemished carbon inners (gloss finish was scratched) that I was able to get a good deal on. They'll be here Tuesday so I'm looking forward to getting those swapped before the Optima Drive event at NCM in a few weeks.

https://youtu.be/Ipo1ZnhghWo

syborg tt 07-22-2019 01:30 PM

Looks like it was fun.

We do however need to get a camera mount.

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Here's a video of one of my runs from Goodguys Columbus. Had a blast running the course and got some much needed seat time. I did have some front inner fender rubbing goin on in the turns which affected my desire to push hard in the turns...didn't wanna completely chew up any tires or damage anything. With that in mind, I made some calls about wider inner fenders and turns out Anvil had some blemished carbon inners (gloss finish was scratched) that I was able to get a good deal on. They'll be here Tuesday so I'm looking forward to getting those swapped before the Optima Drive event at NCM in a few weeks.

https://youtu.be/Ipo1ZnhghWo


Gmachine1911 07-23-2019 07:50 PM

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Looks like it was fun.

We do however need to get a camera mount.

Lol! Most definitely:drive:

Gmachine1911 07-24-2019 09:09 PM

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So I got these beauty's from the man in the brown truck today. Gotta say, I'm quite impressed with the quality. Since they were "blemished" I figured they'd have noticeable flaws, however, there was only one visible scratch and it was under the fender once installed.

Gmachine1911 07-24-2019 09:13 PM

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Managed to get the driver side in this evening...

DWC 07-25-2019 05:07 AM

Those do look really nice. They make your engine bay pop, imho.

Daniel

Gmachine1911 07-25-2019 05:20 PM

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Those do look really nice. They make your engine bay pop, imho.

Daniel

Thank you! I think it adds some good contrast to the sea of black😀 It was hard finding any good pics of these inners anywhere. Especially any side by side photos of the Anvil carbon deep tubs vs the factory pieces so I thought I'd post up some pics...

Gmachine1911 07-25-2019 05:22 PM

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Factory vs Anvil...

FadedSS 07-25-2019 05:26 PM

Wow- those inners are awesome! Thanks for the pics, they're really helpful as I've been debating about getting a set myself.

DT69Cam 07-30-2019 12:16 PM

How is the fit ?? Trimming required ?? Holes line up etc ?? Thx.

Gmachine1911 07-30-2019 06:35 PM

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How is the fit ?? Trimming required ?? Holes line up etc ?? Thx.

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How is the fit ?? Trimming required ?? Holes line up etc ?? Thx.

The fit's not bad. It's probably not much worse then repro parts but then again, you don't buy these parts expecting not to have to put forth some effort. The only holes you have to drill are the inner fender support brace holes and the holes for bolting it to the core support. I'd honestly rather they didn't drill any holes, especially the ones on top where it attaches to the inner structure of the front fenders. I did had to shave a little off the area where the rear of the passenger upper control arm pivots but otherwise I'm happy. I got the ECM and heater/AC lines secured and ready to mount the front fender.

I also ordered some new door hinges and latch mechanisms today as I've noticed the door hinges have some play and they've been re-bushed enough times I wanna start fresh (plus they're missing the detent arm and springs so it's a PITA the work on it with the doors open). I'll probably wait til I get those parts in this week to hang the front fender back on and at least save myself some time on one side. Either way, gotta have it back together for the Driveautox event at NCM this weekend.

Gmachine1911 07-30-2019 06:39 PM

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Here's a good shot the shows the shape of the inners...

Gmachine1911 08-02-2019 08:21 PM

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So I got the Anvil inner fenders installed and I must say, I quite happy with them. It's not a simple drop in but the overall fit is quite good. When I did the driver's side, I jumped the gun on thinking I had to re-drill some holes to get the alignment right but after moving to the passenger side, things went quite smooth. After completing that side, I went back to the driver's side with some newfound knowledge and readjusted everything and all the holes lined up quite nicely.

If I had to give someone advice on these I'd say to take your time and don't get in a rush to re-drill any holes. I did have to trim the inner opening at the back of the upper control arms on both side for clearance but nothing major. The additional clearance these things have at the outer wheel opening is crazy, they basically turn straight up from the mounting flange

I finished prepping it for the Drive Autox event tomorrow and took it for a spin. No craziness but with some hard 90° turns and softer shock settings, there's no rubbing so far. I'll know for sure after tomorrow! Here's a pic of the finished product. :knokwood:

Gmachine1911 08-05-2019 05:50 AM

https://youtu.be/OzOegLevPxg

https://youtu.be/eVVXY-GdkmM

Here's some footage from the Optima DriveAutoX event at NCM. Drove the car down 2.5 hrs, thrashed on it all day and drove it home. Happy to report there were no issues. The car is definitely more capable then the driver at this point but I'm learning quickly how much I can push and where the limitations are.

For anyone wondering, the DriveAutoX events offer excellent bang for your buck. They're cheap compared to other Optima events and the seat time at NCM was ridiculous! There were only 35 cars there and they start you while the previous car is finishing up so things move at a brisk pace. I lost track of how many runs I got, but it was aprox 13-14...that was just Saturday! The atmosphere was great and the focus was on having fun and driving. Everything was well organized as well and they had volunteers working the track so no one had to shag cones, etc. It was the perfect setup for someone like myself who needs seat time. If one is scheduled close to you, it's worth checking out!

67_camaroRS 08-07-2019 11:13 PM

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More brake lines...I bought the Eastwood line flaring tool and I must say it does a great job. The stainless is tough as nails but makes for a good workout!
The goal was to keep the lines as symmetrical and close to the firewall as possible without interfering in the removal of any parts down the road. It's crazy how much time (and money) I've spent just searching for/buying small detail items like clips, clamps, etc. if anyone has a source, I need some 3/16" twin brake line clamps preferably aluminum that will hold two lines side by side. I've seen them all over but for some reason they've been avoiding me in my search.

Side note: like an idiot, I never did delete the wiring harness holder from the firewall. That's from all the back and forth on the wiper harness. Indecisiveness is the enemy of progress.


Quick question, What hydraulic system are you using? i remember you told me at first you used the American powertrain hydramax setup but then went with something else.

Gmachine1911 08-08-2019 05:42 AM

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Quick question, What hydraulic system are you using? i remember you told me at first you used the American powertrain hydramax setup but then went with something else.

Yeah, my transmission kit came from American Powertrain but in retrospect, I should've piece-parted it out since I didn't end up using half of what I bought. I didn't use their crossmember, bought one from Bowler. Didn't use their clutch MC, used a newer Camaro GM unit and cut the rod to the proper length along with the DSE firewall mount. I ended up using one of Bowler's billet MC reservoirs instead of the one that came in my kit, etc. There's nothing wrong with their kit, I just didn't care for the generic appearance of some of the parts and felt like I could get stuff that looked more thought out.

67_camaroRS 08-09-2019 11:11 PM

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Yeah, my transmission kit came from American Powertrain but in retrospect, I should've piece-parted it out since I didn't end up using half of what I bought. I didn't use their crossmember, bought one from Bowler. Didn't use their clutch MC, used a newer Camaro GM unit and cut the rod to the proper length along with the DSE firewall mount. I ended up using one of Bowler's billet MC reservoirs instead of the one that came in my kit, etc. There's nothing wrong with their kit, I just didn't care for the generic appearance of some of the parts and felt like I could get stuff that looked more thought out.


The little details are what matter the most. You definitely have an eye for it. Another question, the shifter you are using is that an 8, 10, or 12-inch shifter? Thanks

Gmachine1911 08-10-2019 06:31 AM

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The little details are what matter the most. You definitely have an eye for it. Another question, the shifter you are using is that an 8, 10, or 12-inch shifter? Thanks

Well thank you! That's one good thing about doing things Johnny Cash style, you have plenty of time in between while you're saving up money for the next step to decide how you wanna do it and change around minor details as you go! The shifter is Finch's 8" stick...nice piece, too.

Gmachine1911 09-10-2019 04:27 AM

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Had a great time at Holley LS Fest last weekend. I didn't realize there were limited spots for the autocross so I missed out on that, however, it was still a blast with perfect weather and great scenery. Couldn't help but snap a few shots...

Gmachine1911 09-10-2019 04:29 AM

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Gmachine1911 09-16-2019 06:45 PM

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So hit up the home-town car show with my Dad this weekend. As you can see, he's got a lot more Power Tours under his belt then I do!

Gmachine1911 09-19-2019 04:45 AM

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After several long road trips, it's become apparent that a center console was a much needed addition...for both storage and a need for cup holders! Since my interior is mostly stock appearing and I like the looks of the factory console, I wanted to go that route. I raised the transmission tunnel quite a bit to gain clearance for the T56 so with the help of some folks on here sending me console dimensions I was able to summarize that it'd be close enough I could probably make it fit.
Anyway, I ordered up a console kit which arrived yesterday and went to work. I actually didn't have to cut it as much as I expected and I'm happy with the fit and appearance. I still have to do something with the wood grain, either paint it black or thought about having the parts hydro dipped to look like carbon fiber. My question is, now that I've got storage, I'd love to integrate some cup holders somehow but there's just no good place to do it. It's not a big deal except during longer road trips so I thought about 3D printing an insert that'd drop in where the factory seat belt buckle holders would be that would hold a couple of drinks. Then, when parked or not needed, can be pulled out and stowed away. Anywho,here's a pic of it mocked up, just ignore the wood grain!

Goosesdad 09-19-2019 09:27 AM

Looks perfect!
I'm also trying to locate some cup holders, I like your idea of 3D printing some. If you are going that far and intend to only use them sometimes, what about doing individual ones and making them so they hang on to the side of the center console just in front of the front edge of the seat? Might be a way to make them so they flow nicely and be mostly out of the way of your legs. Might be easy to store 2 smaller parts than one big part, when not in use? Might be easier access to the cocktail in that location vs. the seatbelt spot?

I've sort of started my design and I'm trying to fit them in that location. Agreed, little real-estate here!

Gmachine1911 09-19-2019 09:06 PM

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Looks perfect!
I'm also trying to locate some cup holders, I like your idea of 3D printing some. If you are going that far and intend to only use them sometimes, what about doing individual ones and making them so they hang on to the side of the center console just in front of the front edge of the seat? Might be a way to make them so they flow nicely and be mostly out of the way of your legs. Might be easy to store 2 smaller parts than one big part, when not in use? Might be easier access to the cocktail in that location vs. the seatbelt spot?

I've sort of started my design and I'm trying to fit them in that location. Agreed, little real-estate here!

Hey John, thanks for the input, I hadn't thought about that but I'm liking the sound of it! That would also allow me to still use the seatbelt holder area for cell phone storage while driving, too...something I didn't wanna give up for cup holders but hadn't worked out yet either. I'll roll that around in my head and try to come up with something. It reminds me of those cup holders my Dad had in his truck when I was a kid, you know, those cheap plastic ones that hung on the door panel between the glass! Maybe we can bring those back in style, a more refined version:cheers:

eville 09-20-2019 08:36 AM

I’ve seen guys recess a boat style stainless cup holder into the console lid. One guy cut foam that held a cup and placed it in the console.

Cup holder is the reason I like the newer consoles.

Gmachine1911 09-22-2019 05:45 PM

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Finally got some spare time this weekend to get the console wrapped up. Let me just say, those console ash tray lid springs suck! Anyway, here it is assembled...

Gmachine1911 09-22-2019 05:55 PM

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Here it is finally in the car...

kevin_l 09-23-2019 06:32 AM

Looking good!

Gmachine1911 09-23-2019 06:59 PM

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Looking good!

Thanks, Kevin!

Spiffav8 09-27-2019 01:36 PM

Looks super clean!!

:captain:


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